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#1 Jarz

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:47 AM

Talking to my dad about LL5 (he's taking me), and we were disagreeing on the distance of the opening charge. I've heard 1/4 to 1/2 a mile, and he doesn't believe me. Can someone tell me about how far our opening charge is, worst case scenario, and best case scenario? I'm assuming we're clashing at Bedlam, or the "Mayan Mountains" (hill).
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:10 AM

usually the impact point is just past bedlam near the hyperball field and then down in a line from there into the woods. that is about where it is, it's not a terrible run, if you are coming from the bedlam side then it isn't too bad because you are going on a flat grade whereas coming from the hyperball side you are going on an uphill run.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:16 AM

usually the impact point is just past bedlam near the hyperball field and then down in a line from there into the woods. that is about where it is, it's not a terrible run, if you are coming from the bedlam side then it isn't too bad because you are going on a flat grade whereas coming from the hyperball side you are going on an uphill run.


Last year the city side created a skirmish line in bedlam bout 5 minutes into the game.

The run is about 1/4th of a mile, maybe more. It's really not that bad.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:27 AM

I'd say a quarter mile. I'm really out of shape and I didn't have a hard time running it.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:30 AM

Wow, a 1/4 of a mile is nothing!!! I used to run the mile in track and did that in 4:56 but with all the gear, paint, marker and loader etc that I will be carrying, it should still only take a few minutes to reach the "Clashing point." I am gonna be running, you can be positive on that.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:42 AM

Based on the video and air pictures last year it was 2.5 minute run till contact somewhere in the middle. I would say 1/4 mile. So start training on running as fast as you can lead the charge to the front!!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:02 AM

1/4 mile? Shit, I am down to 6:34 for my mile time....I am gonna guess around 4 minutes for me with all my gear at a dead sprint. I think something along the lines of "SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!" for my charge cry might be worth it :).

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

Look at mikes opening charge video there is one guy infront of him who is going at it with minimal gear. Remember of the initial charge you have to be light to gain ground. Two minutes into the run someone screams out contact!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 12:37 PM

Look at mikes opening charge video there is one guy infront of him who is going at it with minimal gear. Remember of the initial charge you have to be light to gain ground. Two minutes into the run someone screams out contact!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:05 PM

I am :) and your currently posting in the open ll forum

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:17 PM

I think this is in the open forums bro....and Mikes Opening Charge video is from the LL4 videos..

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:22 PM


Look at mikes opening charge video there is one guy infront of him who is going at it with minimal gear. Remember of the initial charge you have to be light to gain ground. Two minutes into the run someone screams out contact!

WHAT THE FUCK?!!?!?!?!?!?!

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The guy who started this is on the Empire side, so, in reality, you would be posting on his forum, not the other way around. ;) However, this is the open LL forum, not the secret hidden one. :tup:

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:32 PM

1/4 mile? With full gear I can cover that in two minutes easy, maybe less

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:48 PM

Ok, a quarter mile really isn't bad, even with gear on. I agree, two minutes on a quick run sounds about right. Just remember to tighten your pack and mask, make sure your loader and tank are on, have a nice grip on your marker, and book it. :lol:

Good shoes too! I'm wearing track shoes (running shoes).
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:04 PM

Track running shoes are light but on gravel might hurts if you step on a rock

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:04 PM

Track running shoes are light but on gravel might hurts if you step on a rock

They have thick enough bottoms.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:12 PM

It's funny how many people say a quarter mile is nothing when all they have on is track clothes. Add your gear + the adrenaline of 500 people running (and shooting) next to you and see how your body feels. I'm not saying it's super hard, but it's no cakewalk. It's literally a sprint to the center of the field, with a mask on, only to be shot at.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:31 PM

I didn't find it hard. I am young and in shape though.

Even with gear, my 120 pound skinny boddy was able to sprint easily lol.

Remember when thinking about shoes, you don't really want shoes for just sprinting-get shoes you can last in for a while. Yes, you will sprint there, but you will be skirmishing for possibly an hour. Get comfortable!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:33 PM

It's funny how many people say a quarter mile is nothing when all they have on is track clothes. Add your gear + the adrenaline of 500 people running (and shooting) next to you and see how your body feels. I'm not saying it's super hard, but it's no cakewalk. It's literally a sprint to the center of the field, with a mask on, only to be shot at.


Hence why I said about 4 minutes, just to be on the safe side :-P

As for shoes, I went ahead and got some Adidas GSG 9.2's, probably the lightest boot I have ever worn. It literally feels like a trainer around my foot, just with high ankle support. I will be rocking these when i hit the field in May!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:58 PM

During track practice, I'm going to practice my 400m, and then start running it with a mask on. :P
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:11 PM

I may miss out on the opening action, if I try to sprint even a 1/4 mile with all the gear and paint I cary, someone may be carrying me off. I'm guessing there will still be people to shoot when I get to the front at a brisk walk with a case of paint. I've been running to try to get in shape, but my body isn't what it was 20 years ago, and I probably add around 50 pounds with gear and paint. So to all you sprinters on the Empire side, try to save a few Horde tagets for me.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:19 PM

I weighed 230 pounds empty at LL4 and it took me about three minutes at the opening charge.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:06 PM

Training tip: Take your pack and replace the pods with 12oz bottles of water. Then strap on your pack, pick up a brick with your shooting hand, and take off running.

Train that way and you will notice less difference when you play.

Do it with ankle weights on and you'll feel like you're flying when you're running at the event. ;)
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:38 PM

Training tip: Take your pack and replace the pods with 12oz bottles of water. Then strap on your pack, pick up a brick with your shooting hand, and take off running.

Train that way and you will notice less difference when you play.

Do it with ankle weights on and you'll feel like you're flying when you're running at the event. ;)


Thats a good idea to use during the game as well.


I did it at ll3, and it was amazing on those long walks back to the hospital/pits ^_^

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:52 PM

Training tip: Take your pack and replace the pods with 12oz bottles of water. Then strap on your pack, pick up a brick with your shooting hand, and take off running.

Train that way and you will notice less difference when you play.

Do it with ankle weights on and you'll feel like you're flying when you're running at the event. ;)


ima do this when i get home from school (no gear up here atm)

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:37 AM

I have cropped copies of the field map laying around my house as of now...
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:07 AM



Look at mikes opening charge video there is one guy infront of him who is going at it with minimal gear. Remember of the initial charge you have to be light to gain ground. Two minutes into the run someone screams out contact!

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:31 AM

Well...when you do it...you do it BIG LOL
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:03 AM

Go big or go home lol.

I have been running with flak and boots on, to train my feet and back to get used to carrying weight. I might start carrying a 5-10 lb weight plate in my hand while i am running as well, see if that helps.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:16 AM

Just be sure to carry something and not just use a strap on weight. Carrying it strengthens the hand and arm muscles you use to carry your marker.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:04 PM

Of course.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

I'm going to measure out a quarter mile and start running it every day to see how much time I can shed off. I've never been able to run due to asthma but I figure it's a good time to get over that.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

the opening charge is something you need to plan for. You can't expect to be a first responder, wearing a full blown scenario vest, carrying 11 pods and a backup marker.

You need to make sure you are wearing the proper shoes for the hard packed surface (I definitely wouldn't recommend cleats, train runners is the best choice for this), and definitely look at using a 3, MAYBE a 4 pack.

The goal of being a first responder is to gain as much ground from the beginning and establish a scrimmage line as deeply into the other teams side as quickly as possible. Once the paint starts flying everyone ducks for cover. Shoot your paint, move up as aggressively as possible. Two things are going to happen -

1) You get shot out quickly
2) You run out of paint quickly

So the second most important thing is to get off the field as quickly as possible, clean up, air up, reload and THEN carry heavy back to the established scrimmage lines, and start the grind

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 12:04 PM

^^ As much as I despise the New Empire, the man has a point!

First after Mike,

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:37 PM

Thanks for the tips Mike! We shall use these tips wisely. ;)
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