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Hebiki's Clone Showdown - Part 1: Drivetrain Comparison


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#1 Hebiki

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:24 AM

Hebiki's Showdown is back by popular demand!

Today I'll be comparing the drivetrains for the CloneVX and the CloneGT.
Special thanks to H2Oman251083 for lending me his CloneVX in order to do this comparison. :tup:

Enjoy! (Check out my youtube channel for a shooting video of the CloneGT:) )



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[ weight ] 815g

8 1/2" [ length w/o barrel (approx.) ] 8 7/8"
silver [ drivetrain color ] red



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Notes: CloneVX might be slightly underweight due to the panel grips and different trigger. But probably not enough of a difference to matter.


Edited by Hebiki, 11 April 2012 - 12:24 AM.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:27 AM

ooo first!

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

Real first.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:29 AM

Very nice!!!! You're making the two weeks I have to wait for my GT very painful. Please stop antagonizing me with pictures!
Just kidding, keep the pictures rolling. How much of a difference does that Critical trigger make???

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:30 AM

dammm....team grips are sexy tho :)

Edited by DrewaV, 11 April 2012 - 12:31 AM.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:30 AM

Real first.


attaboy!

some interesting changes....
  • pic #12...and the orings on valve (and different shape on the valve itself.)
  • power tube and power tube tip
  • holes in the spacer (going from round to oval in shape)
etc. etc..



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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:31 AM

Wow. Makes me want the GT over the luxe.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:36 AM

dm12 for win :P

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:37 AM

Sorry, I was too focused on the amount of lube on that GT drivetrain... :P
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:38 AM

Sorry, I was too focused on the amount of lube on that GT drivetrain... :P


i have a 10 gallon tub of Militia Lube I got from costco. :)

(thats surprisingly LESS than the amount of lube that was on the VX when I first bought it brand new :P )

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:56 AM

Holy overlube batman

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:56 AM

Looks like everything is a bit larger, which IIRC, makes for a slightly smoother shot.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:46 AM

Holy overlube batman


The camera makes any oily surfaces shine which makes em appear shiner, giving the appearance of alot of lube.
I'd say its a generous amount. But not globs of it on.




Im being nice when I say Generous.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:19 AM

From what I recall, macdev overlubes their makers anytime they leave the factory NIB. It was one of the reasons people were having slight problems w/ their dx's earlier.It's kinda funny since macdev markers work better w/o such a generous amount.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:00 AM

From what I recall, macdev overlubes their makers anytime they leave the factory NIB. It was one of the reasons people were having slight problems w/ their dx's earlier.It's kinda funny since macdev markers work better w/o such a generous amount.

Nah, every manufacturer overlubes their guns from the factory. Dye destroys their guns, macdev, vanguard, bob long...just a few NIB guns I had from those companies I know cake it.

And some guns require that...NOT lol

Anyways the cores look very similar. I'd say the shaft being cut, and the milled out back part of the can may get 5% more air in for lower pressure and a softer shot. But probably undecipherable. Maybe the slightly different valve won't waste as much air and we'll see efficiency gains.

^half speculation and half hope :D

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But the Ego 11 is shiny. :(

Dosent the Ego 11 only come in dust colours?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:39 AM

wow, from the pictures the VX and GT Drive train really doesn't look too different.

That will be nice for Clone owners, because their will that many more years of o-ring kits for them...

Hebiki do both markers use the same amount and size of o-rings?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

so since this is a showdown/fight, is there a winner?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:21 PM

wow, from the pictures the VX and GT Drive train really doesn't look too different.

That will be nice for Clone owners, because their will that many more years of o-ring kits for them...

Hebiki do both markers use the same amount and size of o-rings?

IIRC, they changed the size of some o-rings to more standard sizes.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:32 PM


wow, from the pictures the VX and GT Drive train really doesn't look too different.

That will be nice for Clone owners, because their will that many more years of o-ring kits for them...

Hebiki do both markers use the same amount and size of o-rings?

IIRC, they changed the size of some o-rings to more standard sizes.


well if the sizes for the Valve keg, and Bolt kegs are the same, only thing that I could wish stayed the same was the powertube mid o-ring stay the same, those are those most problematic o-rings on the VX and with them all but area staying the same, Still I'm happy. :lol:

With some of the minor details between the GT and VX I will love to find me a used Clone for 500 and then VX it and have a sweet shooter for a fraction of the price. :wub:

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

Why pay 500 for a Clone, and then VX it, (gonna cost you 200+ dollars, plus I think the feedneck attachment needs to be modified) when you can just buy a VX for 700...
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

^ehh.. $150ish.

I can probably look and find the Gold bolt for around $25 and I wont buy a used Drive-Train that sounds like problems all over it...

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:44 PM

There aren't any likely problems in buying a used drive train. Any oring can be replaced in seconds, and thats the only part(or collection of parts) that seal. I mean, unless the damn thing was bent, and completely mangled, I think most problems would be a quick, cheap, and rather simple fix.

My gun wasn't VX'd, just V2 and it shot perfectly anyways.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

If you buy all the parts new, they are 190 dollars, plus shipping. I would rather just buy a VX, and be done with it, and not worry about modding the gun.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:34 PM

Idk, I love the vx and the gt looks good but I don't like the front grip on it too much.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:03 PM

VX $650.

guess you guys are right, just wish I had the cash

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:10 PM

Yep. Then you get the HPR that doesnt need a wrench as well.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:53 PM


Holy overlube batman


The camera makes any oily surfaces shine which makes em appear shiner, giving the appearance of alot of lube.
I'd say its a generous amount. But not globs of it on.




Im being nice when I say Generous.


MacDev's are supposed to look wet, not have globs of Militia Lube on them....




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