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  1. Voted gryphon @ $70 (9 votes [10.23%] - View)

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  2. Voted azodin kaos @ $90 (54 votes [61.36%] - View)

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  3. Voted other mech gun in that price range (please comment which gun) (25 votes [28.41%] - View)

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#1 Ryandall

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

Hey guys I'm new here and this is my first topic.
I want to buy my first marker in the $150 range, preferably mechanical or other markers that can perform well on CO2.
I know HPA is better but I'm from Suriname and CO2 is the only thing they got here.
So I'm looking for a marker that is cheap, easy to maintain (because there are also no real paintball markers experts here) and works well on CO2.
I already have the azodin kaos in mind,is it good or is something else better?
I'd really appreciate your help and advice.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:43 PM

Well, there's always the tippmann 98, since it could probably survive a nuclear blast.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:18 PM

Out of the two you listed i say the gryphon just because of the fact that its basically a 98 and will do better with CO2 than a kaos would.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:58 PM

Out of the two you listed i say the gryphon just because of the fact that its basically a 98 and will do better with CO2 than a kaos would.


Any other suggestions beside these 2?

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 04:01 PM

Automag Classic. Many more upgrade paths. $150 might even get you a Minimag. Don't bother with an RT Classic or X-Valve if CO2 is a must.

Look for something with:

-classic/minimag valve
-RT on/off (luxury item, but it makes the pull on a classic lighter)
-AM/MM rail
-likely will only be a single trigger (Intelliframe is a bonus in case you upgrade down the road)
-powerfeed with a good parabolic plug (allows for warp modification with a hacksaw down the road and you'll just change it out for a ULE body anyways.....it does well enough in mechanical mode though you may prefer a straight out tube body if you never plan to upgrade......centre feed is also an option, but twist lock barrels are harder to find for them and some centre's had that undesirable "stove pipe" feedneck)
-Level 10 bolt (HIGHLY recommended, but not required)
-on/off
-I prefer the rubber grips on single trigger frames (ie. PMI's), but it's a luxury item

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 08:12 PM

Yeah I wouldnt touch a Tippmann if I was a beginner. Didnt even consider it even before I saw TechPb and was a beginner. I would probably recommend the Kaos, just because it's the best marker under 100$. But you could also scourge the BST forums for a used cheap electro. But yeah, Azodin all the way. Or you could save up for an Envy or another gun thats <200$

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:47 PM

Buy used and get a vibe

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:19 PM

The Pirhana GTI+ Rampage. Nothing is better. It has a board capable of 17bps. That is most field caps. Its regulated. Clamping feedneck. Everything you could want!

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 03:38 PM

I would second the Tippman or the Automag. The Automag is a much better gun but it also requires a little bit more knowledge if something goes wrong....but odds are there won't be. Both are very reliable markers.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:59 PM

Get an azodin kaos, great beginner gun, idk if it works well with co2

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:03 PM

Try to find a used eNVy or Vibe, but if not, then I would go for the Kaos.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:28 PM

do u have a mask, pods, pads , hopper? get that first i recommend HPA instead of co2 because co2 has liquid in it that could mess up ur gun but best mech gun is the kaos but if u wanna go electric go with Spyder fenix or azodin blitz their electric and in that price range and all works with co2

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:30 PM

maybe through in the bt-4 instead of the 98c? i personally find the design (externally) a bit better.. and if you want to milsim it up, it will be great.. pretty much same internals i think, but a but more streamlined externally..

but a used Vibe can be your best option, though the co2 makes the higher possible ROF harder to achieve.. with the co2 cool down and liquid in the gun..

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:46 PM

Vibes were meant to tolerate carbon dioxide. And you can find them for under $100.


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Posted 27 June 2012 - 06:05 AM

I don't disagree with a lot of the responses here for a general $150 marker, but I think many people missed the desired requirements of the OP.

1. Preferrably Mechanical
2. Easy to maintain
3. Must use CO2 only - no HPA available
4. No gunsmiths/airsmiths available to support

I think this means he's looking at five mechanical markers - the Azodin Kaos, the Battle Tested BT-4, the Tippman Custom 98c, a used Automag Classic, and a used Autococker Trilogy Competition. I'm going to throw out all of the electros because it is unlikely he'll have help with boards, eyes, and power.

In the strict order of how easy to maintain I'm going to divide it into simplicity and frequency. The Azodin Kaos will be the simplest of the five to maintain and clean as the only open bolt. The Automag and Autococker are similar and with a small learning curve are not difficult to take apart. The BT-4 and 98c will probably take the most effort as inline bolts, but will be similar to the automag and autococker overall. From a maintenance frequency standpoint, they are all comparatively long lasting with the engineering of the automag making it the most consistently reliable marker of the group.

All of the mechanical markers are going to use CO2 to some degree of effectiveness. In general, the higher rate of fire you can achieve, the colder your internals will get and the lower your velocity will drop. You could fix this with a CO2 specific regulator - I know Palmers used to have one a long time ago but don't see them much any more.

The rest is pretty much preference. Of the list and trying to divine how important each of your needs are, I'd rate them 1. Kaos, 2. Automag, 3. BT-4, 4. Tippman 98c, 5. Trilogy. Since you were planning to spend $150 on your marker, you can get the Kaos for $90 and spend the last sixty bucks on getting a good CO2 regulator to replace the gas-thru foregrip. If you go the Automag path instead, it's going to take up most all of your $150 to get a classic with lvl 10 bolt - I can't knock this choice, it's a really good one, but you will need to become an automag expert through your life of ownership. I hope that's helpful.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:22 PM

I don't disagree with a lot of the responses here for a general $150 marker, but I think many people missed the desired requirements of the OP.

1. Preferrably Mechanical
2. Easy to maintain
3. Must use CO2 only - no HPA available
4. No gunsmiths/airsmiths available to support

I think this means he's looking at five mechanical markers - the Azodin Kaos, the Battle Tested BT-4, the Tippman Custom 98c, a used Automag Classic, and a used Autococker Trilogy Competition. I'm going to throw out all of the electros because it is unlikely he'll have help with boards, eyes, and power.

In the strict order of how easy to maintain I'm going to divide it into simplicity and frequency. The Azodin Kaos will be the simplest of the five to maintain and clean as the only open bolt. The Automag and Autococker are similar and with a small learning curve are not difficult to take apart. The BT-4 and 98c will probably take the most effort as inline bolts, but will be similar to the automag and autococker overall. From a maintenance frequency standpoint, they are all comparatively long lasting with the engineering of the automag making it the most consistently reliable marker of the group.

All of the mechanical markers are going to use CO2 to some degree of effectiveness. In general, the higher rate of fire you can achieve, the colder your internals will get and the lower your velocity will drop. You could fix this with a CO2 specific regulator - I know Palmers used to have one a long time ago but don't see them much any more.

The rest is pretty much preference. Of the list and trying to divine how important each of your needs are, I'd rate them 1. Kaos, 2. Automag, 3. BT-4, 4. Tippman 98c, 5. Trilogy. Since you were planning to spend $150 on your marker, you can get the Kaos for $90 and spend the last sixty bucks on getting a good CO2 regulator to replace the gas-thru foregrip. If you go the Automag path instead, it's going to take up most all of your $150 to get a classic with lvl 10 bolt - I can't knock this choice, it's a really good one, but you will need to become an automag expert through your life of ownership. I hope that's helpful.


thank you very much... this helped a lot... what co2 regulator would you recommend?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:07 PM


I don't disagree with a lot of the responses here for a general $150 marker, but I think many people missed the desired requirements of the OP.

1. Preferrably Mechanical
2. Easy to maintain
3. Must use CO2 only - no HPA available
4. No gunsmiths/airsmiths available to support

I think this means he's looking at five mechanical markers - the Azodin Kaos, the Battle Tested BT-4, the Tippman Custom 98c, a used Automag Classic, and a used Autococker Trilogy Competition. I'm going to throw out all of the electros because it is unlikely he'll have help with boards, eyes, and power.

In the strict order of how easy to maintain I'm going to divide it into simplicity and frequency. The Azodin Kaos will be the simplest of the five to maintain and clean as the only open bolt. The Automag and Autococker are similar and with a small learning curve are not difficult to take apart. The BT-4 and 98c will probably take the most effort as inline bolts, but will be similar to the automag and autococker overall. From a maintenance frequency standpoint, they are all comparatively long lasting with the engineering of the automag making it the most consistently reliable marker of the group.

All of the mechanical markers are going to use CO2 to some degree of effectiveness. In general, the higher rate of fire you can achieve, the colder your internals will get and the lower your velocity will drop. You could fix this with a CO2 specific regulator - I know Palmers used to have one a long time ago but don't see them much any more.

The rest is pretty much preference. Of the list and trying to divine how important each of your needs are, I'd rate them 1. Kaos, 2. Automag, 3. BT-4, 4. Tippman 98c, 5. Trilogy. Since you were planning to spend $150 on your marker, you can get the Kaos for $90 and spend the last sixty bucks on getting a good CO2 regulator to replace the gas-thru foregrip. If you go the Automag path instead, it's going to take up most all of your $150 to get a classic with lvl 10 bolt - I can't knock this choice, it's a really good one, but you will need to become an automag expert through your life of ownership. I hope that's helpful.


thank you very much... this helped a lot... what co2 regulator would you recommend?


I only know of and recommend the Palmers Rock and Palmers Stabilizer, but I'm sure there are others that are good for CO2.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 12:13 PM



I don't disagree with a lot of the responses here for a general $150 marker, but I think many people missed the desired requirements of the OP.

1. Preferrably Mechanical
2. Easy to maintain
3. Must use CO2 only - no HPA available
4. No gunsmiths/airsmiths available to support

I think this means he's looking at five mechanical markers - the Azodin Kaos, the Battle Tested BT-4, the Tippman Custom 98c, a used Automag Classic, and a used Autococker Trilogy Competition. I'm going to throw out all of the electros because it is unlikely he'll have help with boards, eyes, and power.

In the strict order of how easy to maintain I'm going to divide it into simplicity and frequency. The Azodin Kaos will be the simplest of the five to maintain and clean as the only open bolt. The Automag and Autococker are similar and with a small learning curve are not difficult to take apart. The BT-4 and 98c will probably take the most effort as inline bolts, but will be similar to the automag and autococker overall. From a maintenance frequency standpoint, they are all comparatively long lasting with the engineering of the automag making it the most consistently reliable marker of the group.

All of the mechanical markers are going to use CO2 to some degree of effectiveness. In general, the higher rate of fire you can achieve, the colder your internals will get and the lower your velocity will drop. You could fix this with a CO2 specific regulator - I know Palmers used to have one a long time ago but don't see them much any more.

The rest is pretty much preference. Of the list and trying to divine how important each of your needs are, I'd rate them 1. Kaos, 2. Automag, 3. BT-4, 4. Tippman 98c, 5. Trilogy. Since you were planning to spend $150 on your marker, you can get the Kaos for $90 and spend the last sixty bucks on getting a good CO2 regulator to replace the gas-thru foregrip. If you go the Automag path instead, it's going to take up most all of your $150 to get a classic with lvl 10 bolt - I can't knock this choice, it's a really good one, but you will need to become an automag expert through your life of ownership. I hope that's helpful.


thank you very much... this helped a lot... what co2 regulator would you recommend?


I only know of and recommend the Palmers Rock and Palmers Stabilizer, but I'm sure there are others that are good for CO2.

http://palmer-pursui...&chapter=2&id=1

This or you could try anti siphon co2

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:19 PM

go electronic with the blitz for 180

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:21 PM

look into a Tippmann 98, or even a A5 they are damn near indestructible.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:38 PM

I love my empire Er3 its kindfa like a new autococker and its only $75

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:56 AM

I love my empire Er3 its kindfa like a new autococker and its only $75



how is the er3 anything like a cocker? i'm intrigued as to how this assessment came about

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

GoG eNMEy.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:29 AM

GoG eNMEy.

OP asked for preferences back in May 2012, well before the release of the eNMEy. Since he later asked for anti-syphon regulators I'd assume the purchase was already made.

That said, I'd be curious to know how the eNMEy's release valve works to protect the internals from CO2 flash condensation.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:00 PM


GoG eNMEy.

OP asked for preferences back in May 2012, well before the release of the eNMEy. Since he later asked for anti-syphon regulators I'd assume the purchase was already made.

That said, I'd be curious to know how the eNMEy's release valve works to protect the internals from CO2 flash condensation.

I didn't even look at the post dates until now, whoops.

But as for the relief valve my guess is that the valve is similar to a burst disk, which vents out excessive pressures in the gun, and it works in correlation with liquid co2, which I believe is at a higher pressure in liquid form then when it expands into a gas. So at a certain pressure, which my guess is about where co2 is liquefied, that opens the valve and vents out the liquid co2 and doesn't allow it into the firing chamber.

EDIT: Oh, you said flash condensation. I'm not sure how that works, but it's obvious I need to learn how to read.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:25 PM

Honestly I have found factory refurbed smart parts vibes for about $65 on ebay and i got 2 of them and there great and super easy

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:38 AM

Honestly I have found factory refurbed smart parts vibes for about $65 on ebay and i got 2 of them and there great and super easy



i agree, i have fallin in love with mine!! its not pretty but gets the job done every time.. keep in mind this is a pic of it before i bought it, but nothing has changed on it
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

Gog enmey is a great mechanical gun, and maintainence is stupid easy.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:04 PM

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:53 PM

GOG ENMEY
Mech ION and is pretty nice, or just buy one of the mech ions used. Theres a guy selling a mech ion on here in the mech section for $120, and there are so many after market parts for it.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 08:18 PM

when the OP hasnt responded in over 6 months, just let it go guise.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

Envy/Vibe or a Promaster

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

If you get an anti-siphon co2 tank you could possibly rock a used ion for super cheap with good up's or even a mech ion if you really want too....

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

If you get an anti-siphon co2 tank you could possibly rock a used ion for super cheap with good up's or even a mech ion if you really want too....

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

If you get an anti-siphon co2 tank you could possibly rock a used ion for super cheap with good up's or even a mech ion if you really want too....

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:39 PM

I have a tippmann gryphon and love it. It works great and a lot of fun. I don't like the looks very much but it feels amazing in my hands. It will get you started then you can buy something new.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

I have a tippmann gryphon and love it. It works great and a lot of fun. I don't like the looks very much but it feels amazing in my hands. It will get you started then you can buy something new.

Sorry, I know that you love your marker, but this is bad advice. OP, Disregard this.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:25 PM


I have a tippmann gryphon and love it. It works great and a lot of fun. I don't like the looks very much but it feels amazing in my hands. It will get you started then you can buy something new.

Sorry, I know that you love your marker, but this is bad advice. OP, Disregard this.

OP bought an Azodin Kaos in May 2012. I have no idea why people keep dredging this particular thread to confuse you and me both.
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:58 AM

Hey guys I'm new here and this is my first topic.
I want to buy my first marker in the $150 range, preferably mechanical or other markers that can perform well on CO2.
I know HPA is better but I'm from Suriname and CO2 is the only thing they got here.
So I'm looking for a marker that is cheap, easy to maintain (because there are also no real paintball markers experts here) and works well on CO2.
I already have the azodin kaos in mind,is it good or is something else better?
I'd really appreciate your help and advice.



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:58 AM

Hey guys I'm new here and this is my first topic.
I want to buy my first marker in the $150 range, preferably mechanical or other markers that can perform well on CO2.
I know HPA is better but I'm from Suriname and CO2 is the only thing they got here.
So I'm looking for a marker that is cheap, easy to maintain (because there are also no real paintball markers experts here) and works well on CO2.
I already have the azodin kaos in mind,is it good or is something else better?
I'd really appreciate your help and advice.


The GoG eNMEy is $120.00 I have heard it is the best mechanical marker out there.

#43 mattyk826

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:11 AM

tippmann a5 with response trigger you can find an upgraded one on here pretty cheap. i bought one for my local shop had response trigger and flatline cost me 150 but you can probably find one on the internet for 100 bucks with the same upgrades

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 06:53 PM

Guys, necro. Stop. And GoG eNMEy would be better than ANY Tippmann you'd ever find under 300 used, unless it was a Crossover.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:07 PM

I really like my Azodin Blitz. You can buy the Zero system for it later and it will shoot exactly like the Azodin Zenith.

#46 iNicker

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:18 PM

or you can stop commenting and let this old thread die.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:40 PM

when the OP hasnt responded in over 6 months, just let it go guise.

No you shouldn't let it go. I had the exact same question. Im a noob, and I wanted to get a good marker for the money and Google led me here for advice. Based on what you guys posted here I went with the Kaos. The wealth of knowledge here is a noobs paradise; so don't think just becuase the Op isn't paying attn to the thread that other noobs wont stumble across the data. Makes more sense noobs like me reading this post than posting a redundandt one on the servers. Anyways, thanks to all for the info. I think the Kaos was well worth the price. It feels premium although it is cheap. Not that I have used other markers outised of a Tipman 98 and a BT-ERC. I only wish I would have got the Blitz Evo instead, so now I am looking for a sub 200 electronic marker.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:38 PM

Definitely the gog eNVy, great gun and its a mech, so great with Co2




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