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#1 AmirK

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:29 PM

I recently acquired a 70/4500 tank in a trade and never noticed it but the reg on it is a 3k reg.
Guy who works the air station at the field I went to on saturday was a bit spooked about it and though we were going to blow up.
Ever seen something like this? Should I be looking into getting a 4500 PSI reg?
Dude I got it from said he never noticed it was a 3k reg and he gets it filled to 4500 psi all the time.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:39 PM

I recently acquired a 70/4500 tank in a trade and never noticed it but the reg on it is a 3k reg.
Guy who works the air station at the field I went to on saturday was a bit spooked about it and though we were going to blow up.
Ever seen something like this? Should I be looking into getting a 4500 PSI reg?
Dude I got it from said he never noticed it was a 3k reg and he gets it filled to 4500 psi all the time.


Then I guess it is a 4.5k reg, how can you tell?

Edited by kingJurzy, 10 June 2012 - 10:39 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:43 PM

The difference between a 3k reg and a 4.5k reg are the burst disks. If the 3k reg has the burst discs that a 4.5k uses, then you can fill it to 4.5k. If it has the normal 3k burst discs on it, then I wouldn't fill it past 3k.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:44 PM

it doesn't have a 4.5k nipple
and the fill nipple says 3k

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:48 PM

I was talking about burst discs, not fill nipples. There aren't fill nipples specific to 4.5k tanks and one specific to 3k tanks, all fill nipples are the same. You'd have to either get pictures of the words on the burst discs, or read them and tell us what the burst discs say. One of the burst discs should be say like 1.8k, and the other should say 7k. If one burst disc says 1.8k and the other says 5k, then it's a 3k reg, and shouldn't be filled to 4.5k.

Edited by TK-421, 10 June 2012 - 10:50 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:59 PM

ya sounds to me that it is 3000, i had a guy filling his 4500 tank that had a 3000 reg and the tank would let out an insane amount of pressure until the tank was down to 3000, and he didnt realize until i spotted it, youre lucky you didnt turn your gun into a bomb

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:09 PM

yup it says 1.8k and 5k
So next course of action should be to get a 4.5k reg correct?

Edited by AmirK, 10 June 2012 - 11:10 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:14 PM

i believe so, and if youre going to do that, get the pro reg

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:19 PM

i believe so, and if youre going to do that, get the pro reg


ninja pro reg, that is.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:29 PM


i believe so, and if youre going to do that, get the pro reg


ninja pro reg, that is.

And what justifies the $26 price difference between the pro and regulator ninja 4500 reg?

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:34 PM

you can swivel the pro reg so the gauge and fill nipple arent sticking into your wrists

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:35 PM



i believe so, and if youre going to do that, get the pro reg


ninja pro reg, that is.

And what justifies the $26 price difference between the pro and regulator ninja 4500 reg?

Adjustable fill nipple position and more output pressure options it can be adjuste to to suit your fancy. There is absolutely nothin wrong with the standard ninja reg, but if you want to splurge, the ninja pro reg is the best one out there.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:38 PM

this is true ^

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:03 AM

ya sounds to me that it is 3000, i had a guy filling his 4500 tank that had a 3000 reg and the tank would let out an insane amount of pressure until the tank was down to 3000, and he didnt realize until i spotted it, youre lucky you didnt turn your gun into a bomb


Dont inspire fear into people. A 3k reg on a 4500 tank is far from a bomb. If anything a burst disk opens and safely drains the tank. Even aluminum tanks are tested up to like 7-10k psi in hydro and it takes like 30,000psi to put a hole into a carbon fiber tank.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:04 AM

yup it says 1.8k and 5k
So next course of action should be to get a 4.5k reg correct?


That is a 3k reg. DO NOT fill it to 4.5k, ONLY fill it to 3k.

If you want to fill your 4.5k tank to capacity, then you need a 4.5k reg on your bottle.




i believe so, and if youre going to do that, get the pro reg


ninja pro reg, that is.

And what justifies the $26 price difference between the pro and regulator ninja 4500 reg?

Adjustable fill nipple position and more output pressure options it can be adjuste to to suit your fancy. There is absolutely nothin wrong with the standard ninja reg, but if you want to splurge, the ninja pro reg is the best one out there.


No, it doesn't have more output pressure options. The Pro reg and the regular reg both have exactly the same output pressures. You can get both the Pro reg and the regular reg in SLP, SMP, SHP and the regular adjustable reg. The difference between the two is that you can turn the bonnet of the reg so that you can have the fill nipple and reg be in whatever position you need them to be, so that they don't interfere with how you hold your marker. It's definitely a nice feature.

And the price difference is only $15, not $26.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:10 AM

Do not use a 3 k reg on a 4500, get the proper reg!

PRO regs are 20 more then a normal reg.

3000 psi tanks are hydro tested to 5000 and 4500 are hydro tested to 7500. Both are burst rated at 3 times the pressure, 9000 and 13500, not 30,000!

Use the correct reg on the correct tank and be safe. It is not just your safety but everyone around you! HPA is safe but must be used correctly and respected.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:25 AM

Instead of buying a whole new reg, couldn't he just replace the 5k burst disk with a 7.5k burst disk?
Or is there something else different between the two?

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:53 AM

Although you can we do not recommend this, he reg is marked with the pressure and you do not want any confusion and fill it incorrectly
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:53 PM

Yeah that tank is like my third tank. thanks for the replies
I just won't use it until I get the reg replaced
This tank for my Proto Rail so can I still use a SLP reg?
I think the manual said to operate at 400-800 psi

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:58 PM

A normal reg will work. If you take out the 2 thick shims in a normal reg, you are at 550 psi. A SLP reg will not work for many markers.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:58 PM

Yeah that tank is like my third tank. thanks for the replies
I just won't use it until I get the reg replaced
This tank for my Proto Rail so can I still use a SLP reg?
I think the manual said to operate at 400-800 psi


No, you can't use an SLP reg, the pressure it outputs is too low. You need the regular adjustable reg to use on your Proto Rail.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:20 PM

The difference between a 3k reg and a 4.5k reg are the burst disks.

Really? If I'm remembering right Ray (Ninja) told me that the two are different, and that its ok to use a 4.5k reg on a 3k tank, but not the other way around.

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