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#1 Chicago Paintballer

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:29 AM

Did anybody else notice all the negative comments/ thoughts on Paintball Explosion? I went there when it first opened and for the Clowns Vs. Zombies scenario and I thought it was a pretty good field. Have things really worsened since then?
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 01:50 PM

No, it is simply because they are so successful that people aren't getting babied anymore and therefore are pissy.

I've been playing there since November of 2010 and it gets better for the general public every month. I still love the place, but I remember when it had a more homey feel :D

I won't stop going there, staff is still great and I really like the place. 3 things could be improved however-they could sell better paint at the price they do (proball for 65? Come on.) The refs could actually check people and understand the rules, and finally scenarios could be run better.

However, with those gripes in mind, it's a great field and anybody that complains about the field really must have a nice field...because PBE is honestly the most well rounded field in Chicago.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 05:11 PM

Yeah, MZinCamo is probably right. They are a more expensive field and a few of their refs need more training because they've been hiring more and more people. For the price, the paint is decent at best. I started playing at PBE last year and I thought the fields were REALLY cool. They're only getting bigger. World at War was the first scenario I went to; It wasn't the best time ever, but I had lots of fun.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:32 AM

No, it is simply because they are so successful that people aren't getting babied anymore and therefore are pissy.


Sorry MZ I don't think that's a fair assessment. The guy complaining had driven 2 hours both ways and was treated poorly, I think he had a right to complain. And a few of the follow-up criticisms of PBE were simply that, criticisms... and opinions based on experience.

Understandably, being new, PBE has a lot of stuff to work on. I think they have potential to be a really great place but aren't there yet. Starting a new paintball facility is really hard work and a tricky business to get right. Nothing wrong with fair criticism.

And just to make things clear, my own main criticisms have to do with the full auto rental guns and overpacking the fields. Those are by far my 2 big reasons that I don't go there more often. It turns paintball into a huge wipefest paintwasting stalemate. I am slightly biased, though, because most my paintball experience was 8-10 years ago when paintball was a bit different.

I do really like the small speedball field. I certainly don't hate PBE.

Edited by samthepainter, 24 July 2012 - 12:41 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:28 PM

I wasn't talking about that guy, I personally think there was more to that story that we didn't hear. I'm simply talking about regulars, who think they deserve all this crap when they really don't. PBE is starting to learn to balance their niceness between normal players and original players.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:34 PM

Yeah, that would mean he was outright lying about the paint being swolen (and what the gun tech said), but it's possible...
If he got a bad batch of paint (which is possible, even if most other players aren't having problems with the paint that day), it should have just been replaced.

"Babying" certain players is definitely not the way to go -- everyone should be treated with the same level of respect and helpfulness.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:22 PM

my only problem is the paint for the airball only on thursdays. it used to be a draxxus silver for 65 case and entry which was great. now there giving rec-sport which is pretty bad.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

My only problems were at World at War. TJ and Romeo said they were going to ensure that those issues never occurred again and I take their word for it.

The field is a little pricey (I'm not a member, so I gotta pay upwards of $100 for entry and a case of paint.) But it's a little bit of a drive for me so I don't go down there anyways unless I have the extra funds to make the trip.

The fields themselves are amazing. Simply amazing. They obviously put in a ton of money, time, and effort into making the fields as unique as possible. I recommend that next year for those you planning on going to Living Legends, try to get into town early, and check this place out

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 11:47 PM

Look, PBE is a great field for the northern suburbs. CPX for us folks in Grayslake is 1.5 hours, and it's 45 minutes to PBE.

Paul at CPX always takes care of me, and they have great fields, but the drive is a killer, and PBE has great fields, TJ and Romeo have done a great job, (in my opinion they are equal, but my favorite field is wastelands) and their service is great. yeah, maybe I am a regular, maybe I was at their first soft opening and am loyal to the field, but they have not given me any reason to not be. They do cram the fields, the refs do need some more training (only a few, most are great and those that are not are getting the experience to be good) But I have never had a bad day there.



For me, I see no difference, it's all in the drive time, and that's why PBE is my homefield.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:32 PM

$85 a case? no thanks. thats just too much

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:51 PM

$85 a case? no thanks. thats just too much


Well if you pay 30 for entry at say Fox, and pay 35 a case, it's still 65 bucks. For 20 more you can play at a way better field.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:06 PM

well fox is our field sponsor soooooo..... its a bit cheaper for us :P

But yes 30 for entry is ridiculous

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:23 AM

What, 15 for entry? That makes it cheaper. Ever since my membership ran out I don't go there besides tournies.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:43 PM

what team do you play on?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 05:42 PM

I've been playing Young Guns with Achilles X lately, but I'll play for whoever. Probably gonna play D4 soon because I'm getting too good/old for young guns.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:15 PM

OH i might have played you haha. I play with Chicago Underground, was on UnderGround Kidz last year in young guns.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:03 PM

I only played YG this year, mostly to goof around and found I'm good at it lol.

Idk though feel like I've seen that gun.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:08 PM

well there are only 8 of them anywhere, and ive only ever seen 1 thats not mine for sale, so you probably saw me lol

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:21 PM

well there are only 8 of them anywhere, and ive only ever seen 1 thats not mine for sale, so you probably saw me lol


Nice nice.

If you ever decide to play PBE i'm the pump guy with the CCM :P

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:23 PM

ill probably be at PBE on the weekends playing airball, just look for red events and the sunset marq 7 ;)

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:30 PM

Will do, I'm usually there every sunday. I'm easy to spot :)

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:32 PM

are you always playing pump? their $65 for case and entry i like, otherwise the paint is too expensive. Thats while ill pretty much only be playing speedball. Maybe ill bring out the phantom onto the regular fields ;)

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:08 AM

Yeah, I mosy play pump or pistol, that way it is cheaper every time. It's fun playing pump there because there are tons of sneaky ways to go.

I'd advise playing pump sometime there, we have a whole crew of pumpers who play, as well as a ton of airball guys.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:09 PM

sweet, maybe i could get some of my team mates to come along as well.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:51 PM

sweet, maybe i could get some of my team mates to come along as well.


Do iiit

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:37 PM

how many guys do you usually play with?

haha the Underground roster is really big, so i could bring out a ton of people

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:43 PM

Check out my youtube channel (paintcheckpb) to see how we play lol

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

alright will do, hopefully i see you out on the field soon.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:15 PM

ppl hate pbe cuz their refs f***in suck
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

ppl hate pbe cuz their refs f***in suck


Do you mean their reffing abilities? I know a couple of them and I think they're pretty cool people.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:17 PM

i wasnt impressed with some of their reffing. I think some of their refs are only there because its part of their field sponsorship. So they dont really care

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:27 PM

The problem is that the refs don't get treated well enough to do their job well, so the people that play paintball don't work there so they are forced to hire refs that have never played before.




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