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#1 Bravotv

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:45 AM

There's this one diet/ cleanse that is going around called the "10 day juice cleanse/detox" and I'm thinking of going on it. I am primarily looking to detox my body (loosing a few pounds would be nice) because i am starting to feel as if my body is too "dirty" on the inside. I'm 16, 5 foot 9 and 270 pounds (so yes, i am fat). Any idea's or suggestions about the diet?
For those who don't know, the diet is basically start off by doing nothing but drinking vegetable and fruit juice for 8/10 days, then eating soft foods for 3, and finishing with a diet of 75%
raw food for 10 days.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:15 PM

The problem with dieting is that it wont solve the bigger issue of changing your every day eating habits. If this diet shocks your system into losing a couple pounds, you will get them right back when you return to your current diet. I would say target your general daily eating habits before trying something like this juice diet thing.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:42 PM

I don't think it's a great idea. I weighed significantly more than you currently do at my top, and you need to think long & slow, not some crash, last minute bonzai diet. That'll do more harm than good

You need to think simple, simple, simple

3 basic meals a day-

Breakfast-
3 eggs
1 apple
half avacado

Lunch-
grilled chicken breast
broccoli
10 almonds

Dinner-
Grilled Chicken Breast
Broccoli
10 Almonds


Look at how people were shaped 40 or 50 years ago. Three basic meals a day. Not 10 meals a day, not crash diet, not pills, not any of these other crazy diets and crazy shit people preach today. The military follows this same program 3 square meals a day for about 1800 to 2000 calories.

You need to start looking at sugar aka carbs as your enemy, because it is. Pasta, rice, chocolate, pitas, it's all the same shit. Slow, long term changes, thats the trick
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:16 PM

"fad" diets are not healthy for you at all and are pretty much useless, mike has the right idea of just keeping simple meals with small portions of each and you will see the weight come off slowly but sherly

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:10 AM

I don't think it's a great idea. I weighed significantly more than you currently do at my top, and you need to think long & slow, not some crash, last minute bonzai diet. That'll do more harm than good

You need to think simple, simple, simple

3 basic meals a day-

Breakfast-
3 eggs
1 apple
half avacado

Lunch-
grilled chicken breast
broccoli
10 almonds

Dinner-
Grilled Chicken Breast
Broccoli
10 Almonds


Look at how people were shaped 40 or 50 years ago. Three basic meals a day. Not 10 meals a day, not crash diet, not pills, not any of these other crazy diets and crazy shit people preach today. The military follows this same program 3 square meals a day for about 1800 to 2000 calories.

You need to start looking at sugar aka carbs as your enemy, because it is. Pasta, rice, chocolate, pitas, it's all the same shit. Slow, long term changes, thats the trick
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So what if i am thinking of doing the detox "to cleanse the body of toxins" as corny as that sounds (which were not as prevelent in people's body's 50 years ago), do you think it is still pointless? And you touched upon "3 square meals a day", does that rule out any small snacks along the way like a banana on the way home or orange in the evening?

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 12:54 PM

Your body is always filtering out toxins. Again, if you purge them and then go back to bad eating habits you accomplish nothing. Save yourself the shock to your body and change your daily diet in a positive way rather than trying to shortcut your way into being healthy. This can include snacks as long as they are healthy, and as long as they do not push your daily caloric intake over your goal.

If you are heart set on trying one of these detox things, talk to your doctor first. Something to consider is that if you get all of your daily calories from juice you will be also giving your system a huge shock of sugar that can be very dangerous.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 06:55 PM

Doing a "detox" diet every now and then just depends on who you are. Some people love it, and some people think it's a waste of time. I know a girl now who is doing it, and enjoying it. However, I won't ever spend any of my time on one.



Intermittent fasting on the other hand (alternating between eating and non-eating periods) is pretty popular. There's no evidence to say it works, but that same evidence can't make any concrete claims against intermittent fasting either. It works awesome for some people, and hardly works for some too. When it comes to working out, losing weight, building muscle, and so on, all of it isn't an exact science because everyone is different. :tup:
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

Going on a "hunger strike"will do nothing other than harm your body.You can't just eat nothing and expect to lose pounds instantly.Some people go on a mcdonalds "hunger strike",were you eat a bigmac every 2 days and nothing else but water.That could kill you,and pretty much any other form of "hunger strike"can kill you.If you decide to,then ask your doctor about it before you do.I suggest that instead of eating 3 square meals a day,eat small snacks every few hours.That way,you can stay full throughout the day(for the most part).

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:01 PM

Long terms hunger strikes are bad.. a couple days without eating won't do much as long as you are not a diabetic or something like that.

Fasting can make for an interesting experience. Once in my life i did a three day fast. Why? Because i could. :P people act like you need to shove food into your face hole constantly or else you will die of starvation. Three days is nothing when the average person could go around 21 days with no food.

In my opinion it did not really do anything other than ket me know i could do it. As i said in my previous post, intermittent fasting is not for me.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

Honestly since you are young, you should be burning fat very quickly (every bodies BODY is different but usually those that are younger will burn fat quicker). Just start off like me, when I was 16 I cut out unnecessary sugars such as sodas, ice creams, candies, and the like. Those foods do not help you in any way and will hold you back. Cutting just those things out I started dropping weight because it shocked my body.

From there start eating clean, 3 square meals a day.

After a few years now I've moved on to 3 square meals a day, an intermittent fast on sundays, and training 3 or more times a week. You don't need to jump into these fasting techniques and such so quickly. I can do it because like Username, I just can.

So just start with staying away from waste sugars and try to keep your carbs low. Even with minimal cardio you will start losing weight fast. Good luck!

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:28 PM

Thanks for all the advice, I've decided not to go on crash mode with the diet, instead i am going to start drinking the juice with a meal once or twice a day (think of it as a multivitamin).
As for the 3 meals a day, i think i can do the 3 meals a day, but lunch might be 2 small meals with half an hour in between (because of my summer job). I really appreciate the feedback!

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:00 PM

Just be careful with juices. Make sure you are not drinking cocktails because they contain a lot of sugar. Juice already contains enough sugar as is it, so just be careful with what you buy. The lower the sugar the better.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:12 PM

Just be careful with juices. Make sure you are not drinking cocktails because they contain a lot of sugar. Juice already contains enough sugar as is it, so just be careful with what you buy. The lower the sugar the better.


Oh, i was not clear about the juice, what i have is a juicing machine and i freshly squeeze juice from vegetables and fruit, not that concentrated sugar water crap. :D

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:01 AM


Just be careful with juices. Make sure you are not drinking cocktails because they contain a lot of sugar. Juice already contains enough sugar as is it, so just be careful with what you buy. The lower the sugar the better.


Oh, i was not clear about the juice, what i have is a juicing machine and i freshly squeeze juice from vegetables and fruit, not that concentrated sugar water crap. :D


Oh then that's awesome! Posted Image Breaking up your lunch because of work is no problem. As long as you get your intended amount of calories in you at appropriate times you are fine.

(SIDE NOTE:) Personally, don't start looking into the 6 meal split thing. Where you eat 6 smaller portioned meals through the day, it honestly is a waste and a waste of time.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:24 AM

I can understand micro managing your diet if you are a bodybuilder, Olympic athlete, and other similar stuff, but the majority of us won't get any use out of it. I eat good some days and not so good other days.

One of my hobbies is going to the gym and picking heavy stuff up. :P I am a decent size and can lift good amounts in my opinion because I have been doing it for years... not because I eat half my body weight in avocado and almonds. ;)

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

Personally I think juicing is just a bad idea. One of the best parts of the fruit / vegetable, is the fiber you get inside the fruit itself. Removing that, and juts going with the sugar water (the juice) just doesn't make sense.

Nutrition plans are measured over the course of MONTHS, not days, not weeks... MONTHS

You pick a plan, stick with it for a couple months, then make adjustments. Crash diets and crash plans are a bad idea.

You need to think long term, easing down into a proper eating PLAN, not "diet", is the best way. Slow slow slow is the best way to go




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