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#1 cockerpunk

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 04:13 PM

Im still looking for where i put the photos of the tubes of paint to show the bleeding i observed but the new data has been added to the old data table -

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cold and dry -
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humidity -

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Edited by cockerpunk, 19 March 2009 - 02:00 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:02 PM

So.... old paint, still in the bag, breaks just as well as new paint.
Cool.

Also, seems that Compressive strength is not an indicator of impact strength / whether a ball will bounce or break more. IIRC colder paint had higher compressive strengths, and so did aged paint.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:42 PM

So thinner shelled paint, when compared to itself, will get more bounces when warm or humid than when cold or regular humidity. However, it looks like thicker shelled paint get more bounces overall.

Good stuff.

Edited by Lord Odin, 17 March 2009 - 06:42 PM.


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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:43 PM

hmmm... so the 5 month old Beast sitting there is still good.... muahahhah!
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:57 PM

Was the paint turned or moved around on a regular basis? Did you notice any dimpling?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 10:04 PM

Was the paint turned or moved around on a regular basis? Did you notice any dimpling?


dimples were only on the paintballs that had bleed out fill.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 10:57 PM

I assume your definition of bleed out fill was for balls that had a "sweating" type phenomena?

Haha, old balls sweat. :)

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:02 PM

I assume your definition of bleed out fill was for balls that had a "sweating" type phenomena?

Haha, old balls sweat. :)


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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:05 PM

I just got that "Butter Balls" paint conditioner in the mail today. Curious to see if it works, and even more curious assuming it does work to find what agent actually makes it work.

*Edit* I am also curious to see if it chemically alters the shell of paint producing more or less breakage.

Edited by Spitlebug, 17 March 2009 - 11:06 PM.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 12:08 AM

I just got that "Butter Balls" paint conditioner in the mail today. Curious to see if it works, and even more curious assuming it does work to find what agent actually makes it work.

*Edit* I am also curious to see if it chemically alters the shell of paint producing more or less breakage.


soak the balls in a cup of water, that'll 'condition' all the dimples out ;)

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 12:10 AM

I just got that "Butter Balls" paint conditioner in the mail today. Curious to see if it works, and even more curious assuming it does work to find what agent actually makes it work.

*Edit* I am also curious to see if it chemically alters the shell of paint producing more or less breakage.


soak the balls in a cup of water, that'll 'condition' all the dimples out ;)

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Prolonged exposure to water has been known to cause pruning of the skin. :o

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:01 PM

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 06:44 PM

I am surprised that heat really does that much damage to paint.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 08:05 PM

I am not...

Have you ever put a pod of paint out in the bright sun on a 85 degree day... I was in for a huge surprise when I tried to put that pod of paint in my gun. It all came out in a solid block. (I was using DXS Bronze.)
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 09:10 PM

Nobody should be surprised heat is extra damaging to paintballs. 1. It is a protein that bacteria loves to break down. And we should all know that bacteria love a little bit of warmth. 2. Gelatin as a material becomes more pliable with heat which, only helps it loose it's rigidity as well.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 11:35 PM

on the contrary i was very surprised by the lack of damage humidity did to the paintballs. it did make them more ductile (which makes sense) but the balls were easily the most spherical of any of the aged paint. i would shoot that paint.
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 11:47 PM

Very interesting. However, I wish you'd test a wider variety of paints, I've never used DXS. :( Could you maybe test some Visible Impact(what I used to and currently use) or Beast paintballs(what I just ordered)? I know you're not going to march right out and buy either to test, but I figured it was worth a shot. :D

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:03 AM

Very interesting. However, I wish you'd test a wider variety of paints, I've never used DXS. :( Could you maybe test some Visible Impact(what I used to and currently use) or Beast paintballs(what I just ordered)? I know you're not going to march right out and buy either to test, but I figured it was worth a shot. :D


heres a wild idea - you can test them yourself.

and i dont mean that in a snarky or sassy way. i mean that seriously, store some of your local paint for a while under whatever conditions you want to, and drop them from 8 feet onto a thick piece of oak.

next week sometime i should have the video up and edited with suggestions of how to do this kind of testing at home.
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:35 AM

Well, I do have some two year old Visible Impact(all red shell) that's dimpled beyond belief. :lol: Other than that I'll be getting my Beast paintballs in a month, but those should be fairly fresh. I'm currently out of work so I'm not going to waste money buying more Visible Impact unless the Beast paint doesn't work as well as I hope.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 03:24 AM

There is no way for me to know how much heat, or how long said paint has been exposed to the heat so yes, I am surprised.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 09:31 AM

do you mind if I use you're spread sheet for a school project, we're supposed to take a graphical science display and make it into a more "humanistic" form.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:59 PM

as long as you cite your source i dont see a problem
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 01:19 PM

I often end up getting a lot of stinger paint (sucks) and i dont use it until i run out of marb. But ive stored it over winter and I had i think one boune out of 50 balls. over the summer when its hot and humid however. the 25 balls i dropped immediatly 6 bounced but when i brought them in my room for an hour and did it again i got i think 2-3 bounces out of 25 balls. and when i say stored i mean in a shed which just keeps the rain and snow off them. and i usually store it from october to april then april to october. Stinger isnt that great a paint and its not like i checked the balls everyday or used climate control or anything so idk if this means anything to ya'll.
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