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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:36 PM

yesterday maked about the 10th day this season where i go to the field and wind up playing one game, and then having everyone tell me i can't play with them anymore or they just walk away without saying anything, but we all get the message. people see me practice with the local pro team and then i don't get to play, and i have tried every play in the book, played as a renter, jeans hoodie, rental, one game and the rentals kick me out. played with a pistol only, played with 10 shots, played without shooting, every time people say i can't play anymore and there really isn't anything i can do about it.

I hold back as much as i can while still participating and it is to no avail. this weekend for instance in my second and last game of the day, some of the rentals started screaming when i walked over, and i didn't even ask to play, the ref talked me in, and i didn't even participate until my entire team got eliminated, i even stood in the open most of the time and let a 10 year old shoot at me and i didn't shoot at him, just shot from the hip around him. it just sucks because i am running out of things to do, i have some splatmasters i am going to try and i am trying to get an airowgun to go on my spare bow, aswell as an ego .50 cal kit.

anyone else get to this point yet? because it makes me really sad that i drive to my field every weekend try to be helpful to everyone, i help ref and do my best to be fair and i still don't get to play.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:46 PM

yesterday maked about the 10th day this season where i go to the field and wind up playing one game, and then having everyone tell me i can't play with them anymore or they just walk away without saying anything, but we all get the message. people see me practice with the local pro team and then i don't get to play, and i have tried every play in the book, played as a renter, jeans hoodie, rental, one game and the rentals kick me out. played with a pistol only, played with 10 shots, played without shooting, every time people say i can't play anymore and there really isn't anything i can do about it.

I hold back as much as i can while still participating and it is to no avail. this weekend for instance in my second and last game of the day, some of the rentals started screaming when i walked over, and i didn't even ask to play, the ref talked me in, and i didn't even participate until my entire team got eliminated, i even stood in the open most of the time and let a 10 year old shoot at me and i didn't shoot at him, just shot from the hip around him. it just sucks because i am running out of things to do, i have some splatmasters i am going to try and i am trying to get an airowgun to go on my spare bow, aswell as an ego .50 cal kit.

anyone else get to this point yet? because it makes me really sad that i drive to my field every weekend try to be helpful to everyone, i help ref and do my best to be fair and i still don't get to play.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:52 PM

aren't there any walk ons? renters get scared at anyone that has their own gear. they are scared that you will light htem up and stuff.

best thing to do is tell them, unless it's a private game, they have to let you play..

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:56 PM

If you are that good at paintball why aren't you playing pro or D1?

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:57 PM

I've never even heard of this kind of bullshit. Like the guy above said it, they have to let you play unless it's a private game, and even then people usually let others hop on for a game.

Why do they say you can't play with em?

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:58 PM

I have a similar problem at my local field. I am not as good as you, but have a hard time getting games since most people know I have moderately good skills. I have worked extremely hard to develop a good rep at the field. All the refs know I am good with renters and newbies. However, like you, I still have trouble. One thing that has worked for me is teaching. I have been able to join games when I coach or try to teach them to play better. True, it's not as much fun as if I was actually playing full out, but it get me in the games and I get to play. When I approach a group and they look at me hesitantly, I tell them I would coach them and help them enjoy the game more. that might work for you as well.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 02:16 PM

If you are that good at paintball why aren't you playing pro or D1?

Could be money, or he has a job that won't let him, or just not wanting to make the commitment.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 02:22 PM

This has happened to me in a different sense, since I have a jersey with me and friends people think we play "pro" as a couple of renters said but really we just play rec woodsball and small amounts of speedball. We aren't amazing just good as a group and even when we offer the 5 of us vs every walk on (about 10-15) most of them find an excuse to leave. So when we go to fields we usually get 5v5's or we get split up for 3v3's and are forced into a lot of hyperball.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 03:06 PM

After practice Ref the game you want to play so the players dont see you as some amazing pro, then play with them with a pump or some gun that cant shoot very fast.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 03:39 PM

guys thats just it, i have used a pump, pistol rental hell i have played games where i only barrel tag.

also the groups are not required to let someone play with them, and i get this from rec players and rentals the only people who will let me play are some of the people on the local teams but they get done with practice and usually leave, as i am in college atm, i cannot commit to the price or time of being on a regular competing team, i play to get better and to have fun. plus, i don't usually have the money to practice with the amount of shooting they want to do, i am a very conservative player, no matter what gun i use max i shoot in a day is about a pod. 3 if i have bad paint and am trying to overcome that, or just get rid of it.

and yes i could jump to pro or d1, but that is alot of money and time and if i don't stay up with them, that means i can't play ANY tournaments or events, not something i am happy about doing.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 04:24 PM

This is at a commercial field, right? Maybe talk to the owner...tell him you want to play at his field but you're having trouble finding people to play with.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:13 PM

Talk to the field owner, and tell him the situation.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:51 PM

i talk with him every time i go down there, when the players say i can't play i go sit down with him, we can't really force people to let me play with them and i understand that, so i just try to get creative, he can't do too much.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:54 PM

i talk with him every time i go down there, when the players say i can't play i go sit down with him, we can't really force people to let me play with them and i understand that, so i just try to get creative, he can't do too much.

Find a different field? He could get rid of the rule allowing rentals, or others to not allow you to play.

Remember, if you are paying to be there, you shouldn't have to put up with this bullshit.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:07 PM

a rental telling you you can't play? say what? no way in hell

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:17 PM

I really feel bad for you, really do. All I can say is have real talk with them and explain that you are there to have a fun time like they are. Explain that you promise not to light them up because when I first started I was scared about that. First you should build trust with them by helping them with questions, give them advice, or even if your up for it lend them your gun for a little. Of you use a rental gun and not where paintball clothes they shouldn't be as intimidated. Just talk it out. Hope this helps and I really mean that.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:57 PM

I have these problems as well.To get around this issue I
a) Use my Tipx
b ) have a conversation with the group about me not overshooting or bunkering
c) be the "juggernaut" guy , a team of ~10 vs me and 3-4 other people
I felt really bad one time because i asked to join a rental group ( with my Tipx) and this 10YO kid in the group was scared of me and of playing almost to the point of crying so I gave him a pod of paint and let him play on my team. He seemed to have an awesome time for that point on :)

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 11:01 PM

you said people see you practicing with the local pro team. why not just continue to practice and play with them? if they are really pro then i assume they play a couple times a week.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

the local pro team is vicious, i don't get to practice with them too often, mainly because A. i can't afford it and B. when they practice with other pro teams i can't play. it is more important for the team to practice than me as i don't play for them.

if anyone has any ideas for other things i can do to make them feel more confident feel free to post up, i have a really good reputation at the field and usually the refs will go to bat for me but it typically doesn't work. and if you step back from it, you can't have the field owner force other players to let me play with them, that is their choice.

i am hoping getting the airowgun and getting a foam sword will help if i only play with those.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:57 PM

Well, if you are paying, you should be able to play, same as everybody else. If the field owner wants your money, he will make it so you can play, or take your money somewhere else.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:40 PM

Just have a real talk with them saying that you are there the same reason you are. To have fun! Explain that you won't hurt them and really explain that your not a bad person. If that doesn't work then..... They aren't ready to play paintball. Simple as that. If you are not willing to get shot by other people then this is not there sport. As simple as that.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:46 PM

Walk onto the field with them....if it's open play they can fuck themselves...You can play whenever you want. Don't let bitches tell you what you can and cannot do.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:10 PM

this field is not really "open just walk onto the field with whoever is there kinda setup" it is a group shows up, they put them with a ref, if you want to play with one of the groups you need to go ask them if you can join them, and that is where i get turned down, and if i just waltz onto the field and just go play without them being ok with it, that is a quick way to rush new people and business out the door for my field.

and just saying "fuck it i'll do whatever i want i paid my 20 bucks to get in" is not the kind of mentality i want to have or hope anyone has on the field, though we know alot of people do.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:24 PM

You said the refs know you?

Get them to vouch for you.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:48 PM

then find a new field.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:57 PM

they try, that's usually how i get to play is the ref's get me in, but it doesn't always work.

and i don't know about you, but there is not really a whole lot of choices for fields, atleast in the midwest.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:31 PM

Do people around you really just suck that bad? I mean damn Jrab came to my field once and the weekend warriors all played with and against him. Not saying we were as good as him but he relaxed and we all kept up pretty much.

What do you do to make people think your that good? Don't snap shoot as hard or as much dont sprint or lane as hard off break. Maybe get some friends into it? That way you can help them get better and you get to play and maybe one day y'all can make a team.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:36 PM

they try, that's usually how i get to play is the ref's get me in, but it doesn't always work.

and i don't know about you, but there is not really a whole lot of choices for fields, atleast in the midwest.

I know the aren't a whole bunch of fields in the Midwest, but it does sound like you need to find a new one, or get the owner to change that rule.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:37 PM


they try, that's usually how i get to play is the ref's get me in, but it doesn't always work.

and i don't know about you, but there is not really a whole lot of choices for fields, atleast in the midwest.

I know the aren't a whole bunch of fields in the Midwest, but it does sound like you need to find a new one, or get the owner to change that rule.

The thing is though. Assume the owner does change it. People will stop playing or coming if they're forced to play with someone
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:43 PM

Wow that is lame, at my local field all the renters and the parents ask me questions and stuff and they let me play with their closed group granted I keep it on semi and help them out. It makes me feel all happy.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:54 PM



they try, that's usually how i get to play is the ref's get me in, but it doesn't always work.

and i don't know about you, but there is not really a whole lot of choices for fields, atleast in the midwest.

I know the aren't a whole bunch of fields in the Midwest, but it does sound like you need to find a new one, or get the owner to change that rule.

The thing is though. Assume the owner does change it. People will stop playing or coming if they're forced to play with someone

You don't have to force anything. Create groups of renters, and non renters. Renters are put with other renters, and people with their own shit have to play together.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:18 PM

Just have a real talk with them saying that you are there the same reason they are. To have fun! Explain you want to HELP them and you don't want and wont hurt them and really explain that your not a bad person. If that doesn't work then..... They aren't ready to play paintball. Simple as that. If you are not willing to get shot by other people then this is not there sport. As simple as that.

Wow this guy is a genius. And no one even paid attention to his post...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:30 PM

and i don't know about you, but there is not really a whole lot of choices for fields, atleast in the midwest.



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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:38 PM


Just have a real talk with them saying that you are there the same reason they are. To have fun! Explain you want to HELP them and you don't want and wont hurt them and really explain that your not a bad person. If that doesn't work then..... They aren't ready to play paintball. Simple as that. If you are not willing to get shot by other people then this is not there sport. As simple as that.

Wow this guy is a genius. And no one even paid attention to his post...

Way to quote yourself there bud. ;)

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 09:02 PM

I kinda have the same problem when some people come that are on a team but only have like 3 of them then another team comes only half of them they let you play like 1 time on the airball field then when you have to go get air they start palying and they jsut kick you out for mostly the whole day or until one of the players leave and need another person. There not practicing really and there not anything great jsut act like douches when teams come, act like they own the field.. rentals get discourage just because you have your own gear. even though some of them arent any worse then me.. so i can see where your coming from jsut go to a diff field or just play and rape everyone.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:32 PM

If your "too good" for rec then I suggest saving up every few weeks and not go as often then go play some speedball..

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:50 AM



Just have a real talk with them saying that you are there the same reason they are. To have fun! Explain you want to HELP them and you don't want and wont hurt them and really explain that your not a bad person. If that doesn't work then..... They aren't ready to play paintball. Simple as that. If you are not willing to get shot by other people then this is not there sport. As simple as that.

Wow this guy is a genius. And no one even paid attention to his post...

Way to quote yourself there bud. ;)

actually i did respond to you somewhere in there, i do talk with them, typically it is all i do, i help the renters and rec players.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:31 PM

So Vicious play where you play? If you love paintball, get into speedball. I'm sure you could play with the pros if you asked nicely.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:15 PM

So Vicious play where you play? If you love paintball, get into speedball. I'm sure you could play with the pros if you asked nicely.

yes, and again, don't have the money for that.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:49 PM

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

they try, that's usually how i get to play is the ref's get me in, but it doesn't always work.

and i don't know about you, but there is not really a whole lot of choices for fields, atleast in the midwest.


so your field gives private field time to every group that comes in?

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:48 PM

Dont go to that field anymore if the owner is too much of a pussy to change the rules.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:26 PM

Don't the refs split teams according to skill so it seems equal? I know when I go, most of the refs know me pretty well, and it's my friend, A few random people, and the other team outnumbers us. We still win.

Privately talk to a ref and see if he can split teams according to skill, or ask people that seem more into the sport if you can play on their team.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:43 PM

they kinda just keep groups of players together and somewhat mix them sometimes, it's hard to explain there isn't a set like... structure? and we get soo many varied people it changes every weekend.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:59 PM

If there isn't any structure, you aren't going to have many returning customers anyways. Sounds like theres a lot of one or two timers at your field. This means the owner isn't doing it right, IMO. You have to have structure, so that every time you play, it doesn't change. The procedure has to be solid. If their just rolling groups together like that, it's not gunna work. You're more of a paying customer than those once a year players. You should get squeezed in with other groups. If they are too scared to play with you, they can leave. Play some 1v1 tennis or someshit so they don't have to play a sport with TEAMS.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 08:53 PM


So Vicious play where you play? If you love paintball, get into speedball. I'm sure you could play with the pros if you asked nicely.

yes, and again, don't have the money for that.


You don't HAVE to shoot a ton of paint. Play pump against them, and get your shit kicked in. I don't see how shooting renters can be fun anyway.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:07 PM



So Vicious play where you play? If you love paintball, get into speedball. I'm sure you could play with the pros if you asked nicely.

yes, and again, don't have the money for that.


You don't HAVE to shoot a ton of paint. Play pump against them, and get your shit kicked in. I don't see how shooting renters can be fun anyway.

right let me know next time you play pump against a pro team how it goes.

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#50 ExtremeFacepainter

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:53 PM

I know that feel. I spend 60$ a day to go paint balling and spend most of the day waiting until there is FINALLY an open field after 5 rental games.




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