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#1 Dragon1291

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:04 PM

Ok, there seems to be so many torture tests online of like the Etha and such. Why aren't people giving torture tests to like the high end markers?? Figure if you're spending the money on it, you might as well have a product that can stand a beating.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:04 PM

Because torture tests are a gimmick.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:07 PM

Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:24 PM

Because they're expensive and people don't want to waste money ruining it.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:51 PM

Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.

What lol!!!!

It's because u do dive that speed ball guns have stronger durability (dye and PE exempt lol)

If anyone did a dive with a woodsball marker especially something with a cyclone I'm pretty damn sure the plastic woodsball feedneck will not hold up

But mos torture test are unnecessary and a gimmick because when will u actually dive into water or fire

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:56 PM

Part of the appeal of a less expensive gun is that you can beat on it and not care about what it looks like. Afterall, you don't have much invested in it. Although I can play with any gun I want; I play woodsball with an off the shelf A5 and I don't give damaging it a second thought. Would a higher end gun be just as reliable? Sure, but I'd be worried about messing it up.

I think that from a durability perspective it is pretty uniform between woodsball and speedball guns as well as from high end to low end as long as you are sticking with major brands. Where the discrepancy ends is that most people aren't going to go out of their way to abuse a gun they paid a thousand bucks or more for just to show you that it can take it. They'll be much more willing to do that with a Tippmann 98.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 03:11 PM

If anyone did a dive with a woodsball marker especially something with a cyclone I'm pretty damn sure the plastic woodsball feedneck will not hold up

But mos torture test are unnecessary and a gimmick because when will u actually dive into water or fire

Cyclones are more than strong enough for a good chuck, had to throw my gun over a stream last time I played so I had both hands to climb the other side, all that happened is the hopper popped off, since its a huge wide cylinder there's plenty of area to spread out the force of an impact. Rental guns have used plastic feednecks since forever, even if they did break they're replaceable.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 03:14 PM

Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.


Woodsball guns are all plastic. I would trust my all aluminum body speedball marker in a hard fall than a plastic a5 or whatever else you consider woodsball. Speedball markers are also designed to take abuse. I never see woodsball dudes slapping their guns on the ground from superman slides.

The reason you see a lot of pics of speedball markers getting fucked up is because their owners actually push the thing to the limits and do stuff to damage them. The most i've seen a woodsball guy do is smack his gun against a tree from tripping.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 09:57 PM

I'm waiting for a Woodsball vs Speedball fight...

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 09:59 PM

I'm waiting for a bucket of KFC.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:01 PM

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:07 PM


Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.

What lol!!!!

It's because u do dive that speed ball guns have stronger durability (dye and PE exempt lol)

If anyone did a dive with a woodsball marker especially something with a cyclone I'm pretty damn sure the plastic woodsball feedneck will not hold up

But mos torture test are unnecessary and a gimmick because when will u actually dive into water or fire


lol at PE having durible bodies/frames

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But yeah anyways torture tests are pretty much gimmicks. I sure hope no one is chucking their $1250 marker across a pond...

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:58 AM



Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.

What lol!!!!

It's because u do dive that speed ball guns have stronger durability (dye and PE exempt lol)

If anyone did a dive with a woodsball marker especially something with a cyclone I'm pretty damn sure the plastic woodsball feedneck will not hold up

But mos torture test are unnecessary and a gimmick because when will u actually dive into water or fire


lol at PE having durible bodies/frames

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But yeah anyways torture tests are pretty much gimmicks. I sure hope no one is chucking their $1250 marker across a pond...

Lol I did say dye and PE exempt lol!!!! But if u did the same dive with a tippman it'll probably do that to u lol

Oh PE did claim they built them to do that on purpose I guess a PE is like a Honda because they have crumble zones too

Btw I have never seen anyone superman with any milsim marker... It seems to break the milsim role
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 07:39 AM




Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.

What lol!!!!

It's because u do dive that speed ball guns have stronger durability (dye and PE exempt lol)

If anyone did a dive with a woodsball marker especially something with a cyclone I'm pretty damn sure the plastic woodsball feedneck will not hold up

But mos torture test are unnecessary and a gimmick because when will u actually dive into water or fire


lol at PE having durible bodies/frames

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But yeah anyways torture tests are pretty much gimmicks. I sure hope no one is chucking their $1250 marker across a pond...

Lol I did say dye and PE exempt lol!!!! But if u did the same dive with a tippman it'll probably do that to u lol

Oh PE did claim they built them to do that on purpose I guess a PE is like a Honda because they have crumble zones too

Btw I have never seen anyone superman with any milsim marker... It seems to break the milsim role


I've done a quasi Superman with my 98. Wasn't that bad TBH.....

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:02 AM

Be glad the frames twist on the PE. That could be the bones in your arm lol.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 07:48 PM



Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.

What lol!!!!

It's because u do dive that speed ball guns have stronger durability (dye and PE exempt lol)

If anyone did a dive with a woodsball marker especially something with a cyclone I'm pretty damn sure the plastic woodsball feedneck will not hold up

But mos torture test are unnecessary and a gimmick because when will u actually dive into water or fire


lol at PE having durible bodies/frames

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But yeah anyways torture tests are pretty much gimmicks. I sure hope no one is chucking their $1250 marker across a pond...

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:58 PM

people will destroy cheap guns for views and un bias reviews since they are cheap but others people dont want to waste money

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:18 PM


Well the Etha was marketed to be a hybrid speedball/woodsball gun, especially with its EMC kit. Woodsball guns can take a lot of damage out there, much more so than speedball guns, and thus it makes more sense to test the durability of a woodsball gun. Testing a speedball gun's durability isn't really worth it because outside of a few dives, they don't take huge beatings.

Basically, the Etha has so many torture tests online because it is trying to prove itself as a great woodsball gun while still being a speedball gun.


Woodsball guns are all plastic. I would trust my all aluminum body speedball marker in a hard fall than a plastic a5 or whatever else you consider woodsball. Speedball markers are also designed to take abuse. I never see woodsball dudes slapping their guns on the ground from superman slides.

The reason you see a lot of pics of speedball markers getting fucked up is because their owners actually push the thing to the limits and do stuff to damage them. The most i've seen a woodsball guy do is smack his gun against a tree from tripping.



So much this.

PE frames bend because there has to be a weak point. Instead of snapping and shattering, they are made to bend.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:46 AM

Why exactly is the PE frame made to bend?
That seems to me just a PR attempt to justify the fact that they traded durability for less weight.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:57 AM

Yup, but from what I understand they'll replace them for free.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:24 AM

Yup, but from what I understand they'll replace them for free.

Well at least it's not planned obsolescence then.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:26 AM

From what I've seen, it's definitely not an automatic free new frame from PE, at least not for everyone.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:21 PM

From what I've seen, it's definitely not an automatic free new frame from PE, at least not for everyone.


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