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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:14 PM

Now I love the look of high-end guns as much as the next guy but I can't see myself buying any gun over 500 bucks, the improvements and features on a 1000+ dollar gun just seem too miniscule to be worth it. Just think of all the great shooting guns for 500 like the matrix rail and the axe and the eteks and the fx (<--don't hate) and the invasion....to me, buying a new 1200 dollar gin just seems like a waste, anybody else feel the same? Also, you can get sone pretty nice used markers for that much as well...just let me know where you stand on this and why. Thanks.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:19 PM

I personally love mid end and older superguns. I cant justify spending over $500 on much of anything never mind a paintball gun. For me this is a hobby and an expensive one I try to play for as little money as possible.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:22 PM

I personally love mid end and older superguns. I cant justify spending over $500 on much of anything never mind a paintball gun. For me this is a hobby and an expensive one I try to play for as little money as possible.

My thoughts exactly, I guess if you did this for a living I'd go ahead and buy a really nice shooter but unless your paying me to play, I'll stick with mid-ends
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:28 PM

I look at it this way why buy a Ferrari when a Civic will do well with Ferrari you get the best fit the best finish the best parts its the same thing with a high end a mid end will do the samething but a high end does it "Better"
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:35 PM

I look at it this way why buy a Ferrari when a Civic will do well with Ferrari you get the best fit the best finish the best parts its the same thing with a high end a mid end will do the samething but a high end does it "Better"


The big question here is if you can afford the Ferrari if so good for you, you have the best there is. If not a Civic will do the same exact thing just not as well but it will do it.

Is the Ferrari necessary? No not at all. Is the Ferrari fricking amazing. Yes, yes it is.

Thats why I buy used, let someone else take the initial sticker shock initial investment and then I buy a Ferrari at a discount price.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:35 PM

Because the more money you spend the more agg points you get.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:36 PM

Because the more money you spend the more agg points you get.


Explain your 98c Satan Abomination.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:37 PM

Because the more money you spend the more agg points you get.


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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:38 PM

I look at it this way why buy a Ferrari when a Civic will do well with Ferrari you get the best fit the best finish the best parts its the same thing with a high end a mid end will do the samething but a high end does it "Better"

..........ur car price range is a liiiiittle far off, I mean they'd have to be closer in price for an accurate comparison, see the ego (for instance) of roughly twice as much as a matrix rail or something so do the same with the cars, so like why would you buy a Bugatti Veyron for 1.2m when for half that you can get one badass Lamborghini or Ferrari....hell you could get a used Lamborghini, Ferrari, Range Rover for the kids and a nice azz boat lol
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:44 PM

Why does it matter? If someone wants to drop $1,800 on a Luxe 2.0 let them. If you have the money, do what you want.

Your style of thinking, criticizing people who do what they want to do is the problem with Americans the majority of people that live on Earth. I am not saying that you think like this outside of paintball but if it doesn't effect you why bother?


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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:44 PM


Because the more money you spend the more agg points you get.

Explain your 98c Satan Abomination.

Because it works both ways, you also get more agg points the less money you spend. Its a complicated system, the most uncool kids own FX's and Etek's.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:48 PM



Because the more money you spend the more agg points you get.

Explain your 98c Satan Abomination.

Because it works both ways, you also get more agg points the less money you spend. Its a complicated system, the most uncool kids own FX's and Etek's.


Thats ok because I only play stock class so i am instantly the coolest kid ever.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:48 PM

Shot quality

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:51 PM

Because it works both ways, you also get more agg points the less money you spend. Its a complicated system, the most uncool kids own FX's and Etek's.


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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:52 PM

so much blind dp hate, tsk tsk

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:56 PM

so much blind dp hate, tsk tsk


No :P

Give me an example of a marker that is not agg that is over $500

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 01:29 PM

I look at it this way why buy a Ferrari when a Civic will do well with Ferrari you get the best fit the best finish the best parts its the same thing with a high end a mid end will do the samething but a high end does it "Better"


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Posted 30 September 2012 - 01:59 PM


so much blind dp hate, tsk tsk


No :P

Give me an example of a marker that is not agg that is over $500

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 02:05 PM

because I can

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 02:08 PM

Well. some people like the bells and whistles and the fact that they will get a high quality product.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 02:21 PM

This is basically just opinion. some people want one nice gun, us gun whores want many many guns. One nice one < Three good ones :tup:

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:43 PM

To have the latest, and greatest.

Why did a fuck ton of people go and buy the Iphone5, when they have a perfectly fine 4s?

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:49 PM

To have the latest, and greatest.

Why did a fuck ton of people go and buy the Iphone5, when they have a perfectly fine 4s?



This.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 05:52 PM

Well, until you own one you won't understand.

I was in the same boat as you, OP, but I started playing a lot more and I saw why people want them. They just work better. It can't be explained, I'll take an etek out there and it feels the same as a Ego, but take a shocker vs a luxe or a geo 1 vs a Geo 3, they are huge differences.

The Iphone 5 and 4S is a decent comparison, but I'd say more like Iphone 3G to 5.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:12 PM



Because the more money you spend the more agg points you get.

Explain your 98c Satan Abomination.

Because it works both ways, you also get more agg points the less money you spend. Its a complicated system, the most uncool kids own FX's and Etek's.


But..... I'm cool....:unsure:


Most I've spent for a gun: $450 Empire Axe.

Best performing gun: $300 Bob Long Alias.

Never spending over $500. I'll always trade up for whore myself around.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:18 PM

like cooky said. AGG POINTS!!!!!
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:27 PM

Since when did a marker give anyone agg points? :huh:

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 08:06 PM



Because the more money you spend the more agg points you get.

Explain your 98c Satan Abomination.

Because it works both ways, you also get more agg points the less money you spend. Its a complicated system, the most uncool kids own FX's and Etek's.

AHHH YEEAAAAHHHH my 98c gives me agg points!

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 08:12 PM

But..... I'm cool....:unsure:


Most I've spent for a gun: $450 Empire Axe.

Best performing gun: $300 Bob Long Alias.

Never spending over $500. I'll always trade up for whore myself around.

Used $500 is agg, new $500 is nagg.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 03:14 PM

All these analogies...

There are many reasons why people buy high-ends.
Some buy because of the instant cool factor. Think about it, How did you feel the first day you went to the field with your own stuff. It's like that.
Some are competitive players and the investment seems worth it. Why do basketball players who play often, and competitively buy nice basketball shoes?
Some like having the latest and greatest. *refer back to iphone example*
and some people just have the money, and they can. I don't think i need an example of this.

I'm sure people have other reasons, but these few are the one's i can relate to sometimes, and notice.
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:06 PM

I look at it this way why buy a Ferrari when a Civic will do well with Ferrari you get the best fit the best finish the best parts its the same thing with a high end a mid end will do the samething but a high end does it "Better"

I prefer this analogy.

Why buy a Ferrari (High end, ego, dm etc.) when you can get a ZR1 or Z06 (mid end, axe, reflex, invasion) which will perform nearly the same, and with some ups, be just as good if not better? Just minus the nice luxuries.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:24 PM

^^^^^
The answer is that the majority of people have those Mid-ends.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:28 PM

dont worry about what other people spend their money on?
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 12:53 AM

Every performance gain you can get..

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 01:06 AM

So I am guessing no one read my first post?

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 06:36 AM

Well, until you own one you won't understand.

Nailed it right there. You'd understand once you get one yourself. I was in the same boat a few months back. Was planning on making my Marq Rapper the last marker I'd ever need, then I decided why not try out the Ego11 so I traded up and got one. You'll feel the difference right away

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 07:04 AM


Well, until you own one you won't understand.

Nailed it right there. You'd understand once you get one yourself. I was in the same boat a few months back. Was planning on making my Marq Rapper the last marker I'd ever need, then I decided why not try out the Ego11 so I traded up and got one. You'll feel the difference right away

Some people still don't prefer high ends, and I've owned a couple. They're cool but I'd rather save some money or try to get one for a LOT cheaper than they usually go for.
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:09 AM

Performance. 90% of the paintball populations wants the smoothest shot out there, and you won't get it with $500, even if you've deluded yourself into thinking a Boss'd Axe will outshoot high-end spools.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:26 AM

I mean I would say a lot of it has to do with you r financial situation. Markers in the $1000+ price range if you as me are a luxury, unless you are earning money playing paintball in which case it could be considered an investment. This applies to the Ferrari analogy as well. If you have money and can afford a vehicle as a luxury, not as a mode of transportation then by all means do it, but keep in mind there are plenty of people who can afford nice cars, but not the insurance on them ;). The insurance cost to own such a vehicle is going to be the real factor when purchasing one, not the initial cost.

Also keep in mind the cost of paint, field fees and everything else. In real estate, and life, there is a term called "house rich" or "house poor". Chances are everyone has seen it at least once. It refers to buying a home that you can barely afford, in which case you have a very nice, very large home, but can't afford to furnish it so you wind up with a million dollar home that is near empty, or has IKEA furniture in it. Just keep in mind the big picture, as a marker is only one piece of the game, and a $1000 marker won't make a bad player good. Unless you are getting paid to play, then I would consider something like that a trophy or luxury, since you can get the job done just as well spending less, and you will have more money left over for paint, gear, and ultimately other activities since chances are paintball isn't your only for of entertainment.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:07 AM

I have never understood the point of these threads, or why I click on them.

If you do not feel that spending over $______ amount is worth it, don't do it.

Problem solved,end of story, why do people feel the need to confirm their choice with the rest of the internet?

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:25 AM

I'll take an etek out there and it feels the same as a Ego, but take a shocker vs a luxe or a geo 1 vs a Geo 3, they are huge differences.

The Iphone 5 and 4S is a decent comparison, but I'd say more like Iphone 3G to 5.


Hmmmmmm, shocker vs luxe? Aside from the grip spacing add an $8 spring, a lube n tune and they shoot pretty darn close. A heavily upped shocker is $200 or less. Luxes run $800+ used.

Pm8 add maybe an eigen ring and a trigger, $300 ish. Compared to a dm12 at $1000. Difference in shot quality.... not really.

Spend wisely and guess how much dye pays to have these guns made. The claim that the same company made the carver 1 and the ego 9 should be telling. Supply and demand, perception of value. With out these the market crashes.
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 02:04 PM

Performance. 90% of the paintball populations wants the smoothest shot out there, and you won't get it with $500, even if you've deluded yourself into thinking a Boss'd Axe will outshoot high-end spools.


Define outshoot. An automag RT will keep right up with any high end spools in terms of rate of fire....and that is from a mechanical semi auto gun. But what is the point of really going past around 10 bbs? Almost no field allows much faster if it is an electro. As far as it being smoother, we all know who would win that game.

Personally, I don't even care for electro guns that much. Heck, one of my favorite guns is my PMI III....loud, ineffcient, and has more kick than a .22.....but it is fun! Play with what makes you happy.....if it takes a $1000 gun for that to happen, so be it.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:28 PM

Personally, I don't even care for electro guns that much. Heck, one of my favorite guns is my PMI III....loud, ineffcient, and has more kick than a .22.....but it is fun! Play with what makes you happy.....if it takes a $1000 gun for that to happen, so be it.
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:27 PM

Basically, you just get more features with what your buying, a $300 dollar electros give you everything you will ever need to play. $500 dollar electros give you all that plus nicer features (More comfy, efficient, lighter, hard box cases) $1000 dollar guns give you all of that, except with even more nice features (OLED boards, barrel kits, milling, more comfy, even lighter)

Obviously, most players settle for the $300 dollar guns, they don't care if the guns need a little more attention and isn't the best out there. It does everything it need to and is works wonderfully. This is what I'm opting for.

Other players like $500 dollars guns, they don't need as much attention and work better, maybe they've worked hard for it and it's something they take a lot of pride in, it works nicely, and gets the job done just like the $300 dollar gun, just with more jazz and goodies.

And the dedicated opt for the $1000 dollar guns, maybe they are pro tourney players, maybe they demand the best in the market to keep up with the competition, maybe they need a gun that will have everything they will ever need and will always work, maybe they just like the beauty and feel of a high-end marker and they can afford the money to get one, maybe they're extremely in love with paintball and they want something that shows they are immensely dedicated to the sport.

Everyone has their reasons. I don't have a reason to spend the money for a mid end or a high end gun. So I don't buy one.

My 2 cents.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:35 PM

Basically, you just get more features with what your buying, a $300 dollar electros give you everything you will ever need to play. $500 dollar electros give you all that plus nicer features (More comfy, efficient, lighter, hard box cases) $1000 dollar guns give you all of that, except with even more nice features (OLED boards, barrel kits, milling, more comfy, even lighter)

Obviously, most players settle for the $300 dollar guns, they don't care if the guns need a little more attention and isn't the best out there. It does everything it need to and is works wonderfully. This is what I'm opting for.

Other players like $500 dollars guns, they don't need as much attention and work better, maybe they've worked hard for it and it's something they take a lot of pride in, it works nicely, and gets the job done just like the $300 dollar gun, just with more jazz and goodies.

And the dedicated opt for the $1000 dollar guns, maybe they are pro tourney players, maybe they demand the best in the market to keep up with the competition, maybe they need a gun that will have everything they will ever need and will always work, maybe they just like the beauty and feel of a high-end marker and they can afford the money to get one, maybe they're extremely in love with paintball and they want something that shows they are immensely dedicated to the sport.

Everyone has their reasons. I don't have a reason to spend the money for a mid end or a high end gun. So I don't buy one.

My 2 cents.



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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:58 PM

And don't forget, 500 $ markers shoot lasers , 1000$ markers shoot tits and lasers

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 10:07 PM

And don't forget, 500 $ markers shoot lasers , 1000$ markers shoot tits and lasers

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#48 REDCOBRA

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 10:37 PM


And don't forget, 500 $ markers shoot lasers , 1000$ markers shoot tits and lasers

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:48 PM

I have never understood the point of these threads, or why I click on them.

If you do not feel that spending over $______ amount is worth it, don't do it.

Problem solved,end of story, why do people feel the need
to confirm their choice with the rest of the internet?

Nagging doubt?

B/c this is America and I can do whatever TF I want...

And don't forget, 500 $ markers shoot lasers , 1000$ markers shoot tits and lasers

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#50 Jarz

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:49 PM

Honestly, I'm skipping a high-end for now and tricking out my Axe. Then... I'm on my quest for an E-Cocker!
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