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#101 Cap'n Biff

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:45 AM

Methinks the average milsimer doesn't have $1400 for one of these.


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:04 AM

Full auto FS?

Semi auto is waaayy better, The best part about FS is one balling people from +100 Ft away

Second best part is one balling one guy in a group of 5 then watching everyone shit themselves while trying to figure out where the shot came from , then finishing them off one by one like a scene in a sniper movie :D ...

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:47 AM

Dye has said that you will have two choices of magazines-

a 5x5
a 10x10

The one in the pictures is the 5x5 magazine, the one in the video is the 10x10

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:00 AM

I love that Dye finally got creative and came out with a new and innovative marker. The DM13 sooo dissapointed me, glad to see that there is yet hope for Dye.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:18 AM

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Why, are milsimers poor? There's just as many folks in milsim that can drop $1300 on a marker as there are speedballers that can do the same... Not to say that the number is a huge demographic. The difference now is the old stand-by milsim (and especially mag fed) manufacturers have real competition. No longer will a truly crappy engine, drive train or feed system in an expensive shell cut it. They now have to update performance as well as the aesthetic. It's a good thing.

I think theres a bigger market in spaceguns, rather than milsim. It seems like milsim is something people often are super into for their first few months/years, then grow out of it. Typically newer players are milsimers, the budget for them wont be anywhere near what Dye will want for this.

Totally agree with the last point though, good that it isn't just another 98 Clone with crap stuck on it.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:05 PM

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:44 PM

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Looks like there's a second type of stock we haven't heard about. Do you think it's an aftermarket upgrade, or another option? Looks like it opens up tank space, but gets rid of what looks like tools storage in the top one.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:52 PM

I don't think that's tool storage, just a cheek rest over the buffer tube that the stock can extend on.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 05:02 PM

It's a little more obvious in this photo, forward of the butt plate and below/to the rear of the adjustment lever, sporting the Dye Tactical logo.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 05:04 PM

I for one am very excited about this, and may end up picking one up if it doesn't turn out to be total crap. I like the look of the cut down version in that second photo, interesting look to go with. I'll probably end up running my Z2 on top for normal paintballing and close-medium range firefights, and then picking up a mag or two of first strikes that I can implement when necessary. Full Auto Mag Fed that ALSO shoots first strikes? That's like combining the abilities of the Paradigm Pro's FS platform, and the rumored Milsig 17's full auto goodness. My only concern is whether this will cause an influx of fair weather fans for mag-fed, or is it finally being seen as a legitimate way to play paintball?


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 05:26 PM

Looks really interesting, especially the fact that you can run a larger constant air tank on it.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:32 PM

It's a little more obvious in this photo, forward of the butt plate and below/to the rear of the adjustment lever, sporting the Dye Tactical logo.

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I'm interested to see if magpul sues them. Looks at lot like their stocks.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:21 AM

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Well , it seems that it is going to cost 9,999.99...

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:12 AM

Most hardcore milsim players have said NO batteries.

Most milsimmers seem blissfully ignorant of how badly their markers chop and feed and haven't realised what a difference eyes would make. Not to mention that they're accustomed to substandard performance and absurdly difficult maintenance even compared to a real gun. They are being soundly ripped off and don't even realise it. Along with that silly idea that electros are less reliable or that batteries constantly run out at the worst times. Silly and untrue.

Anyways, I love that companies like Dye are taking the milsim and scenario side of paintball seriously. Loving that they've released a magfed marker with eyes and 3shot burst. Loving that they're supporting FS.

Not super convinced overall, however. For some reason they've decided not to do tank-in-stock or even some way to make the 13ci look less gumby, and the 10+10 mags mean this will be disadvantaged in magfed only games vs players with proper 20rnd mags. Well... until the other players jam up. For those two reasons I'm not sold. Release a proper 20rnd at a decent price (even if the 20 only takes round paint) and a better tank/stock system (even if it needs a connection to the ASA) and I'm sold at $1500 because this would be the best magfed, milsim and scenario marker, period.

Right now - meh. It is purdy though.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 07:25 AM

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Well , it seems that it is going to cost 9,999.99...

Vegeta what does the scouter say.
Its over 9000.

I was going to post that until I realized it wasn't final pricing lol. But it looks awesome specially the dyecam version.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:33 PM

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that looks hella heavy

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:05 PM

dye not only made a new tactical marker but a full assortment of tactical goodies to deck it out with !

see pic some kind of optic most likely a simple red dot and different stocks

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

dye not only made a new tactical marker but a full assortment of tactical goodies to deck it out with !


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Umad bro. Frankly I've never had a problem with stocks in paintball. Flex's work just fine with them.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:24 PM

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I like that you can remove the front shroud... This marker is shaping up to be pretty cool!
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:26 PM

Holy shit a scope on a FS capable gun, what an outrage!

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:30 PM

I'm more interested in the similarity to the magpul stock. Wonder if they licensed it or if magpul is going to make them change it.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:54 PM


dye not only made a new tactical marker but a full assortment of tactical goodies to deck it out with !


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Umad bro. Frankly I've never had a problem with stocks in paintball. Flex's work just fine with them.


no dude not mad at all just trying to point out that they are going to make a full set of stuff to go with the gun which I think is great !
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:58 PM

I gotta say aesthetically speaking its the hottest mil slim gun I have seen.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 10:04 PM

I am liking it more and more!
Never would spend 1,000$+ though

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:31 AM

No air through stock?
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:18 AM

No air through stock?

Probably since a DM off a 13cu would get a little less than 2 pods, it would be useless for the guys who wanted to use it with a loader since they'd either have to run it without a stock and a stupid looking gun with the tank right out the back, or Dye would have to work on a dual ASA system that sealed off the other when one of them was used. If it was magfed only then it would be worth it then.


Nvm thought you meant tank in the stock.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:51 PM

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:42 PM

I wonder if the Tactical Ironmen will use this at scenarios from now on. I'd love to see footage of them (or really any organized scenario team) all rocking these.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:42 PM

That would be one well funded team. Look for it to start happening though soon enough if it lives up to dye standards and the pricing isn't completely outrageous.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:26 PM

I am not into Milsim, but this is one sexy, sexy beast. No way to deny it.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:55 AM

This is the first gun to interest me in three years. Single trigger, select-fire, FSR capable. With a useable stock. It's like Dye read my wishlist!


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:59 PM

The ability to mount a stock with a 13cu in. tank inside would be awesome. No remotes or tanks screwed into the ASA.

I think what DYE did here is pure awesomeness. I would not buy one because at this point I have pretty much all that I need but if I were given one I'd be ecstatic.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:18 PM

This is the first gun to interest me in three years. Single trigger, select-fire, FSR capable. With a useable stock. It's like Dye read my wishlist!

How did I figure you'd be all over this? After the single trigger Ego idea, this may be in your ballpark.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:34 PM

This gun looks really good, but for the price it costs, it better come with all the scope's ans stuff, not as aftermarket parts that you can buy to deck it out. But it looks awesome as dye has always done.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:38 PM

Some one needs to turn it into this

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:08 PM

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saw your pics on other threads. cant wait to see more pics from cup. :tup:

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:20 PM

I'm interested to see how the mags will fit in my plate carrier. I run a bunch of duel molle m16 pouches and I wonder how these will fit.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:28 PM

I'm interested to see how the mags will fit in my plate carrier. I run a bunch of duel molle m16 pouches and I wonder how these will fit.

look like around 4x9x2''

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 12:06 AM


I'm interested to see how the mags will fit in my plate carrier. I run a bunch of duel molle m16 pouches and I wonder how these will fit.

look like around 4x9x2''


Did they have an official price listed? Markerbids had $1400, but nobody from DYE has confirmed that from what I've read in this thread.



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Posted 25 October 2012 - 10:23 AM

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 10:25 AM

Retail is gonna be 1300, mags are going to be 25 I believe.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 10:31 AM

i wonder how much those sights are gonna cost

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:06 AM

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:31 PM

looks like there is going to be 3 different magazine sizes

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:41 PM

There is going to be the 10/10 flippable ones (where you have to turn it over to access the other 10 rounds), and it appears a 20 round standard mag as well. Whats the third one?

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:48 PM

The rhird magazine type is more of a dummy magazine. I beleive it's hollow and holds tools.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:01 PM

Yep, the 10 round, 20 round, and the tool kit magazine.




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