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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

We'll all know more in a few weeks, but I have a feeling that the Impulse will be more like an Impulse than the Vanquish will be like a Luxe.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

We'll all know more in a few weeks, but I have a feeling that the Impulse will be more like an Impulse than the Vanquish will be like a Luxe.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:29 PM

Simon just confirmed on some other paintball forum that he has left Kee. I wonder if this means the Vanquish was finished or if another designer is going to have to put the finishing touches on it?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:31 PM

I highly doubt that Simon was the only engineer at Kee.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

So who is this new marker supposed to appeal to? It seems to me like its more of a high end. Makes sense since the axe has been the cheapest sponsor marker in the pro leagues. Im guessing a $700-$800 MSRP.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:53 PM

Well if empire remakes the impulse, ill be on the bandwagon for one.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

simon said he finished all work before leaving KEE. the vanquish design by that should be done.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:32 PM

Who is gonna present the class at extravaganza then? Gasp

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:10 AM

I hope that the new engineering vp will as good as Simon.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:42 AM

Looks like they set up their teaser now.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

Friggin' teasers, I wish companies would just release a product. They do all this stuff then I lose interest. Like with the Spire for example. I had lost complete interest until I started hearing good reviews.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:39 PM

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

Seeing that this gun is coming out the 26th, I was actually going to buy a Empire Axe this week... Does this mean that the Axe will drop in price? I would hate to buy the gun for $459 this week and see the gun drop down in price a week later.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

Seeing that this gun is coming out the 26th, I was actually going to buy a Empire Axe this week... Does this mean that the Axe will drop in price? I would hate to buy the gun for $459 this week and see the gun drop down in price a week later.

I wouldn't think so. Like how a new Ego doesn't change the price of the Etek, or a new DM doesn't change the price of the Rail.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:01 PM


Seeing that this gun is coming out the 26th, I was actually going to buy a Empire Axe this week... Does this mean that the Axe will drop in price? I would hate to buy the gun for $459 this week and see the gun drop down in price a week later.

I wouldn't think so. Like how a new Ego doesn't change the price of the Etek, or a new DM doesn't change the price of the Rail.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:18 PM

Yes, the Vanquish is supposedly going to be well over $1000.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:37 PM

ok good haha it makes sense. The axe still sells great so i guess they want to get into the highend market.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:23 PM

the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:52 PM

the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:07 AM

Awkward moment when it is manufactured in Taiwan like the Axe is.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:20 AM


the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


Pro gun doesn't mean anything. Spyders were pro guns at one point.

They were, but those things were closer to intimidators in spyder bodies than still being spyders.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:29 AM



Seeing that this gun is coming out the 26th, I was actually going to buy a Empire Axe this week... Does this mean that the Axe will drop in price? I would hate to buy the gun for $459 this week and see the gun drop down in price a week later.

I wouldn't think so. Like how a new Ego doesn't change the price of the Etek, or a new DM doesn't change the price of the Rail.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:42 PM

Awkward moment when it is manufactured in Taiwan like the Axe is.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:24 PM

the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


ive heard empire is gonna spread it out one team shoot the vanquish one shoot the axe and one shoot the impulse.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:43 PM


the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


ive heard empire is gonna spread it out one team shoot the vanquish one shoot the axe and one shoot the impulse.


I'd be surprised, it'd be similar to some PE teams being forced to eteks.... What would be much more likely is empire giving the option of all three too all their pro players. So you'd have a team of say two impulses, two vanquishes, and an axe. Similar To how a bob long team would shoot both g6r's and Vic's

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:14 PM



the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


ive heard empire is gonna spread it out one team shoot the vanquish one shoot the axe and one shoot the impulse.


I'd be surprised, it'd be similar to some PE teams being forced to eteks.... What would be much more likely is empire giving the option of all three too all their pro players. So you'd have a team of say two impulses, two vanquishes, and an axe. Similar To how a bob long team would shoot both g6r's and Vic's


I might be wrong but I kinda remember hearing that over in the Millennium series some of the lower divisional teams are shooting Etek"s and Etha's instead of the Ego's and Geo's. but I might be remembering incorrectly. but in this case i can see some of the lower divisions playing with axe's while the pros shoot the new high ends.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:46 PM



the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


ive heard empire is gonna spread it out one team shoot the vanquish one shoot the axe and one shoot the impulse.


I'd be surprised, it'd be similar to some PE teams being forced to eteks.... What would be much more likely is empire giving the option of all three too all their pro players. So you'd have a team of say two impulses, two vanquishes, and an axe. Similar To how a bob long team would shoot both g6r's and Vic's


couple reasons I think certain teams will still be shooting axes. I've heard from a pretty good source vicious is having some sick custom axes made, the difference between the axe and etek thing, the axe really works as a pro level gun, the etek is a watered down ego.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:19 PM

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:45 PM

from a marketing standpoint if I were kee I would want teams still shooting axes. simply because its good for business to be able to say pros use their gun. even though its almost always the player not the gear.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:02 PM




the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


ive heard empire is gonna spread it out one team shoot the vanquish one shoot the axe and one shoot the impulse.


I'd be surprised, it'd be similar to some PE teams being forced to eteks.... What would be much more likely is empire giving the option of all three too all their pro players. So you'd have a team of say two impulses, two vanquishes, and an axe. Similar To how a bob long team would shoot both g6r's and Vic's


couple reasons I think certain teams will still be shooting axes. I've heard from a pretty good source vicious is having some sick custom axes made, the difference between the axe and etek thing, the axe really works as a pro level gun, the etek is a watered down ego.


just because they are doing custom axes, doesnt necessarily mean they will be shooting them, just saying. its two different thing



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:14 PM





the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


ive heard empire is gonna spread it out one team shoot the vanquish one shoot the axe and one shoot the impulse.


I'd be surprised, it'd be similar to some PE teams being forced to eteks.... What would be much more likely is empire giving the option of all three too all their pro players. So you'd have a team of say two impulses, two vanquishes, and an axe. Similar To how a bob long team would shoot both g6r's and Vic's


couple reasons I think certain teams will still be shooting axes. I've heard from a pretty good source vicious is having some sick custom axes made, the difference between the axe and etek thing, the axe really works as a pro level gun, the etek is a watered down ego.


just because they are doing custom axes, doesnt necessarily mean they will be shooting them, just saying. its two different thing


Vicious said in that poster that they will be shooting axes because as far as empire is concered we made all this up. They have not released anything on this gun do you really think a sponsored team would piss off there sponsor and confirm something they have not confirmed yet? They pro teams will shoot the most expensive one period. Its marketing sucide if you don't

Remember when Mikko got sponsored to shoot the PM8? Then everybody realized the pm8 was a dm9 and then boom dye made everyone shoot the DM. Shit they even quit selling pms with lprs.

You don't see PE's pro teams shooting eteks.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:29 AM






the axe will still be one of the best mid ends. Too bad the axe won't be a "pro" gun since teams like infamous are probably gonna be shooting these new empire guns,


ive heard empire is gonna spread it out one team shoot the vanquish one shoot the axe and one shoot the impulse.


I'd be surprised, it'd be similar to some PE teams being forced to eteks.... What would be much more likely is empire giving the option of all three too all their pro players. So you'd have a team of say two impulses, two vanquishes, and an axe. Similar To how a bob long team would shoot both g6r's and Vic's


couple reasons I think certain teams will still be shooting axes. I've heard from a pretty good source vicious is having some sick custom axes made, the difference between the axe and etek thing, the axe really works as a pro level gun, the etek is a watered down ego.


just because they are doing custom axes, doesnt necessarily mean they will be shooting them, just saying. its two different thing


Vicious said in that poster that they will be shooting axes because as far as empire is concered we made all this up. They have not released anything on this gun do you really think a sponsored team would piss off there sponsor and confirm something they have not confirmed yet? They pro teams will shoot the most expensive one period. Its marketing sucide if you don't

Remember when Mikko got sponsored to shoot the PM8? Then everybody realized the pm8 was a dm9 and then boom dye made everyone shoot the DM. Shit they even quit selling pms with lprs.

You don't see PE's pro teams shooting eteks.


From what I understand is that you think the Vanquish is some kind of hoax. Well, that is an interesting theory, except they are officially unveiling it on the 26th of February.

Here is the Facebook link as proof: http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10152549086995251&set=a.442428675250.374431.295594590250&type=1&theater
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:33 AM

I'm not gonna spend more time discussing this with you time will tell if the axe stays in the pros or goes.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:20 AM


Vicious said in that poster that they will be shooting axes because as far as empire is concered we made all this up. They have not released anything on this gun do you really think a sponsored team would piss off there sponsor and confirm something they have not confirmed yet? They pro teams will shoot the most expensive one period. Its marketing sucide if you don't

Remember when Mikko got sponsored to shoot the PM8? Then everybody realized the pm8 was a dm9 and then boom dye made everyone shoot the DM. Shit they even quit selling pms with lprs.

You don't see PE's pro teams shooting eteks.


From what I understand is that you think the Vanquish is some kind of hoax. Well, that is an interesting theory, except they are officially unveiling it on the 26th of February.

Here is the Facebook link as proof: http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10152549086995251&set=a.442428675250.374431.295594590250&type=1&theater


No... He's saying Empire and their teams have been keeping a tight lid on the Vanquish, and since it hasn't been released yet, the teams will still be using the Axe as far as we're concerned, but once the Vanquish is made public their teams will likely be shooting the Vanquish exclusively.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:51 PM



Vicious said in that poster that they will be shooting axes because as far as empire is concered we made all this up. They have not released anything on this gun do you really think a sponsored team would piss off there sponsor and confirm something they have not confirmed yet? They pro teams will shoot the most expensive one period. Its marketing sucide if you don't

Remember when Mikko got sponsored to shoot the PM8? Then everybody realized the pm8 was a dm9 and then boom dye made everyone shoot the DM. Shit they even quit selling pms with lprs.

You don't see PE's pro teams shooting eteks.


From what I understand is that you think the Vanquish is some kind of hoax. Well, that is an interesting theory, except they are officially unveiling it on the 26th of February.

Here is the Facebook link as proof: http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10152549086995251&set=a.442428675250.374431.295594590250&type=1&theater


No... He's saying Empire and their teams have been keeping a tight lid on the Vanquish, and since it hasn't been released yet, the teams will still be using the Axe as far as we're concerned, but once the Vanquish is made public their teams will likely be shooting the Vanquish exclusively.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:42 PM




Vicious said in that poster that they will be shooting axes because as far as empire is concered we made all this up. They have not released anything on this gun do you really think a sponsored team would piss off there sponsor and confirm something they have not confirmed yet? They pro teams will shoot the most expensive one period. Its marketing sucide if you don't

Remember when Mikko got sponsored to shoot the PM8? Then everybody realized the pm8 was a dm9 and then boom dye made everyone shoot the DM. Shit they even quit selling pms with lprs.

You don't see PE's pro teams shooting eteks.


From what I understand is that you think the Vanquish is some kind of hoax. Well, that is an interesting theory, except they are officially unveiling it on the 26th of February.

Here is the Facebook link as proof: http://www.facebook....&type=1


No... He's saying Empire and their teams have been keeping a tight lid on the Vanquish, and since it hasn't been released yet, the teams will still be using the Axe as far as we're concerned, but once the Vanquish is made public their teams will likely be shooting the Vanquish exclusively.


Yup. Don't know where he got the hoax thing from haha.


I think he got confused with the PM8 refrence.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:22 PM

They will all shoot the high end. Guarantee it.

Did you see empires Facebook post? Empire says vicious will be shooting axes this year even after they confirmed the vanquish?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:28 PM


They will all shoot the high end. Guarantee it.

Did you see empires Facebook post? Empire says vicious will be shooting axes this year even after they confirmed the vanquish?


Haven't been following this close enough but have they confirmed that the Vanquish is a marker? Because if not then it would be because they want people to keep guessing what the Vanquish is. Until Empire has confirmed that it is marker I think they will keep saying Vicious is shooting Axes. We may know it's a marker but people who aren't as big into the forums may not know.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:14 PM



They will all shoot the high end. Guarantee it.

Did you see empires Facebook post? Empire says vicious will be shooting axes this year even after they confirmed the vanquish?


Haven't been following this close enough but have they confirmed that the Vanquish is a marker? Because if not then it would be because they want people to keep guessing what the Vanquish is. Until Empire has confirmed that it is marker I think they will keep saying Vicious is shooting Axes. We may know it's a marker but people who aren't as big into the forums may not know.


guess we will have to wait for the dallas open to find out.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:06 PM

Who wants to bet me?

Edit: Scratch that to who wants to bet me by the end of the season they will shoot vicious team gun vanquishes? Cause apparently they wont be ready for Dallas.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:39 PM

When they said, "vicious will be shooting axes in 2013" it was just a fancy way of telling people about their new sponsorship change. I'm sure they'll be given the option to shoot whatever they like best and I'm sure most of them will choose the vanquish, I'd even bet that a few of them stick with their axes though.

Kee would be stupid to limit them to just the axe, that makes no sense from a business standpoint. They'd want them shooting (displaying) their newest product, It's a way of advertising.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:00 AM

When they said, "vicious will be shooting axes in 2013" it was just a fancy way of telling people about their new sponsorship change. I'm sure they'll be given the option to shoot whatever they like best and I'm sure most of them will choose the vanquish, I'd even bet that a few of them stick with their axes though.

Kee would be stupid to limit them to just the axe, that makes no sense from a business standpoint. They'd want them shooting (displaying) their newest product, It's a way of advertising.


Thank you. This has been my point.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:58 PM

Isn't it also a way of advertising to keep the axe in the pro level?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

Isn't it also a way of advertising to keep the axe in the pro level?


Not really the amount of popularity that the axe already has...makes it pointless, look on the BST by far the most popular marker that people are selling axes and it is also by far the most recommended.

The axe is established, KEE wants to market their new stuff since people dont know about it yet

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

just got some details about the vanquish. sounds... interesting.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:06 PM

This better not be made in Taiwan like the Axe is

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:00 PM


I'm seeing '09 Impulse. Kee does have the rights, don't they? Although it does have a strangely shaped body, almost 'Angelish' like.


im throwing it out now(i have absolutely no proff or word from anyone, just my own thought)
its either gonna be a Impulse or a Angel based gun
the frame looks like an older angel to me, so ima go with that


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Or a combination of the Impulse and magno technology, that would be fantastic


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