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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:58 PM


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$1500. No thanks.

It's a Kee-modified Luxe that's cheaper than a Luxe by over $100. People are looking for something to replace the Luxe - I mean, look at how well the Vapor sold at first before everyone found out their pieces didn't fit together. If Empire got the marker operation right, they'll have players lining up to buy.

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So far what I'm hearing I like. Of course, I'm not buying it - but I bet a lot of people will.

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its the same price as a luxe. you are comparing it to the LE splash ano's that are more than the base luxe.
and trust me, you can very easily get a brand new luxe for under retail with even the slightest bit of research. i just purchased a BNIB one, from the factory for WELL under MSRP.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:09 PM

its the same price as a luxe. you are comparing it to the LE splash ano's that are more than the base luxe.
and trust me, you can very easily get a brand new luxe for under retail with even the slightest bit of research. i just purchased a BNIB one, from the factory for WELL under MSRP.

Fair enough, but I don't think that's going to change the fact that a lot of Luxe players will want to buy this to try out the new features. This is assuming that it takes everything good about the Luxe and either matches or improves it, save for the voice. That's an assumption that's still pending real play testing.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:14 PM

I find this to be hideous.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

I'd stick with the Luxe if I wanted that drivetrain.

More refined, better looking, and I just love Darryl.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:07 PM


its the same price as a luxe. you are comparing it to the LE splash ano's that are more than the base luxe.
and trust me, you can very easily get a brand new luxe for under retail with even the slightest bit of research. i just purchased a BNIB one, from the factory for WELL under MSRP.

Fair enough, but I don't think that's going to change the fact that a lot of Luxe players will want to buy this to try out the new features. This is assuming that it takes everything good about the Luxe and either matches or improves it, save for the voice. That's an assumption that's still pending real play testing.



I would love my luxe even more if it had an OLED and no voice. If this shoots like a luxe, I may be sold. It just hate the look, which yes, is a big factor for me.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:12 PM

the gun itself has great features and comes with a freak barrel kit. great value there.
but the fact of the matter is the gun is just ugly.
when im forking over a grand or more for a gun, i want the gun to be beautiful and shoot well.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

I find this to be hideous.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

Just how much crack were the designers smoking before they released this???

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:27 PM

Everything is cool but ugly.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

Look at the bright side. No more axe users hiding behind there mid range marker saying its the best "cuz der pros uses it"
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

Look at the bright side. No more axe users hiding behind there mid range marker saying its the best "cuz der pros uses it"

lmao so true

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:16 PM

I feel like this will grow on me. I hated the demon when it came out but I Fucking love that thing now. the more I look at it the more I start to like it.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

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i made it look better, someone gets some Pl milling on that back cap *coughcoughpootycoughcough* and maybe the rest of it too. It definitely has potential.
All I really did was mess with the eye covers a bit, change the back cap and the asa, and that's really it. Its a very rough sketch, needless to say, I don't have the gun's dimensions, but I think it could work in real life

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

Hey look! An Electro Tippmann Gryphon!

My exact first thought. What a piece of crap.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:52 PM


Hey look! An Electro Tippmann Gryphon!

My exact first thought. What a piece of crap.


exactly what i thought.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:03 PM

9 pods, Bad ass OLED, ONE ALLEN KEY NEEDED (that is awesome), Spaced, Smooth, CF barrel, Easy to clean. I dig it.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:49 PM

ewww looks like a gryphon kind of? hate the look!

I think they are targeting the wrong price point too! If you were going to spend $1,500 on a marker wouldn't you rather choose something more attractive and proven like the luxe or vapour? I sure would
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:24 PM

ewww looks like a gryphon kind of? hate the look!

I think they are targeting the wrong price point too! If you were going to spend $1,500 on a marker wouldn't you rather choose something more attractive and proven like the luxe or vapour? I sure would


This gun isn't proven; however, Empire is a proven company. They have been successfully making a reliable Axe and the Mini for a couple of years now. I am not going to be the test dummy (one because I don't have 1500 to drop on a gun and two because I don't feel like going through the whole debugging process of the new gun), but I am sure that in time this gun will make a good reputation for itself, just like Empire has.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:28 PM


ewww looks like a gryphon kind of? hate the look!

I think they are targeting the wrong price point too! If you were going to spend $1,500 on a marker wouldn't you rather choose something more attractive and proven like the luxe or vapour? I sure would


This gun isn't proven; however, Empire is a proven company. They have been successfully making a reliable Axe and the Mini for a couple of years now. I am not going to be the test dummy (one because I don't have 1500 to drop on a gun and two because I don't feel like going through the whole debugging process of the new gun), but I am sure that in time this gun will make a good reputation for itself, just like Empire has.

This gun is proven. It has Luxe internals. And we all know it's been tested. Remember when the tape was all over it?

Even though I'd wish they would put the tape back on, it'll probably shoot very nice.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

The new Empire marker
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looks like the new Aston Martin Vanquish but in a corolla body with corolla internals
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

The new Empire marker
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looks like the new Aston Martin Vanquish but in a corolla body with corolla internals
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

^Fail.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

What do you mean? It always said Aston Martin.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

What do you mean? It always said Aston Martin.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:25 PM

Neoprene case for a $1500 marker? unacceptable, I better get a LUXE case with it and a handjob with it for $1500
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:42 PM

I better get a LUXE case with it and a handjob with it for $1500


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

The internals are basically those of a shocker/luxe. Hopefully it performs the same with good efficiency.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:10 AM

The internals are basically those of a shocker/luxe. Hopefully it performs the same with good efficiency.


No doubt it will, but dayum the price tag is hard to look at, probably harder too look at then the 2nd Grader style of milling.

To me it's like buying a Car. may have the same internals, but when it looks like Hell... do you really want to be seen with it?

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:13 AM

At the same price as a Luxe, it basically comes down to this: ugly as sin, OLED, pressure reader vs. sexy gun, LED board that talks to you. So I guess if someone really wants a Luxe engine and is really stuck on an OLED, then the Vanquish is the gun for them.

And let's be honest, for a gun with a single reg, you don't need to know what the pressure is. You just set dwell for consistency, then change pressure to chrono. What pressure it's at makes no difference.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:17 AM

if someone has Chronic ADD and has Horrible eye sight and has to have the OLED vs. Someone who loves a machine voice to get them off and loves blinking lights.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:17 AM


I better get a LUXE case with it and a handjob with it for $1500


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:21 AM

At the same price as a Luxe, it basically comes down to this: ugly as sin, OLED, pressure reader vs. sexy gun, LED board that talks to you. So I guess if someone really wants a Luxe engine and is really stuck on an OLED, then the Vanquish is the gun for them.

And let's be honest, for a gun with a single reg, you don't need to know what the pressure is. You just set dwell for consistency, then change pressure to chrono. What pressure it's at makes no difference.

Or you could get a shocker with a eigenbolt and whatever board and trigger you want for less than 1/5th the price.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:10 AM

I wanted to see what it looked like in different colors cause I think that one is rather unflattering. I like it in different colors :3
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:19 AM

anyone else feel like they screwed up the barrel colors? shouldnt the barrel back be the contrast color, and the front match the gun itself??

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:22 AM

anyone else feel like they screwed up the barrel colors? shouldnt the barrel back be the contrast color, and the front match the gun itself??


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:34 AM

The guys designing the barrel probably didn't bother after seeing the rest of it.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:57 AM

I wanted to see what it looked like in different colors cause I think that one is rather unflattering. I like it in different colors :3
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that teal one and joker one are both sick

yes, i did just quote all of those pictures...

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:13 AM

I think you have something there with the two tone. That black and green looks nice!

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:52 AM

If it had that fade, it might actually look useable.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:27 AM

Zephyr Paintball has posted a picture saying Black, Orange, and Grey will be the first colors.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:52 AM

Its growing on me

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:24 PM

Its growing on me


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:03 PM

Trigger looks like crap and the hideous ASA ruins the lines of it. Not to mention how insanely bad it looks with a gloss anno job. Give it a dust black one and it might look alright.
But in gloss, maybe even gloss black it looks like shit.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

that teal one and joker one are both sick


The teal one is basically the only color that would allow me to touch that thing.

This really is not growing on me at all.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

I feel like if the colors touching the barrel contrasted or were different it would look a million times better.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:09 PM

Wow what complete crap. IMHO of course.

They copied off everyone in paintball, stole others companies technologies (the same companies they force to pay them royalties), and they still managed totally mess it up.

And that gun is costing KEE about $250 to make, and they MSRP it for $1500.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:22 PM

I had a feeling that ^^ was coming after i saw what TAS said on Facebook the other day

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:45 PM

Wow what complete crap. IMHO of course.

They copied off everyone in paintball, stole others companies technologies (the same companies they force to pay them royalties), and they still managed totally mess it up.

And that gun is costing KEE about $250 to make, and they MSRP it for $1500.

Yep they sure are looking out for the average players. Posted Image


they didn't steal it. they bought the damn patents and intellectual property off of smart parts. if anything DLX, is closer to stealing KEE's design than vice versa.
the gun has great features. its just ugly as shit. not seeing what else they "stole" as they own all of the damn patents they used.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:48 PM

I had a feeling that ^^ was coming after i saw what TAS said on Facebook the other day


And that wasn't even me, that was Andy - and for those people who know him, he NEVER get mad or says anything.

So ya, it's safe to say we're both kinda pee'ed off. Posted Image


Wow what complete crap. IMHO of course.

They copied off everyone in paintball, stole others companies technologies (the same companies they force to pay them royalties), and they still managed totally mess it up.

And that gun is costing KEE about $250 to make, and they MSRP it for $1500.

Yep they sure are looking out for the average players. Posted Image


they didn't steal it. they bought the damn patents and intellectual property off of smart parts. if anything DLX, is closer to stealing KEE's design than vice versa.
the gun has great features. its just ugly as shit. not seeing what else they "stole" as they own all of the damn patents they used.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

Not going to get into a n00b battle, so just ask around...




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