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#1 AT3256

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:47 AM

My little brother is a wiper. We play frequently, mostly outlaw, which makes an honor system very important. However, lately he has been refusing to call himself out when hit. When I "reffed" one of our outlaw games (I'm by no means qualified to be a ref, but I figure someone needs to be around who isn't playing to keep things from getting out of hand) he took several hits to the mask at various points throughout the game and ignored my requests for him to check himself. I confronted him over it later, but he insisted his stark white profits were covered in spray, not the remnants of a clean break.

Part of me hopes it's just him being unable to judge what a break looks like when you check it with your hand. I have hopes that using a thicker fill paint than the infinity we normally shoot could help, but when we recently played airball at a local field that uses graffiti he got into an argument with a ref over the same issue.

My brother loves the game, but I don't want him to be "That Wiping Asshole" that everybody seems to know. Please give some ideas on how to deal with this, or at least convince me not to care about it.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:52 AM

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:59 AM

either you do it, or someone else will probably do it

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:01 AM

If it was my brother, I'd just beat it out of him.

But that might not work so well for you.
Video tape him next time :lol: .
It's kind of hard to lie against a video.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:16 AM

That's the thing though, part of me thinks it's unintentional on his part. He's not so much wiping as he is just not knowing he's hit. But that just might be my naivete.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:45 AM

How old is he?


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:04 AM

16.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:08 AM

then he knows he is hit

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:15 AM

then he knows he is hit



Ya, that is what I am thinking.

He seems to be playing more to win. If it is anything except speedball, you should be playing for fun, not for complete victory.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:19 AM

In that case, how can I go about changing this behaviour in a mature manner? I don't want to "shit in his mask" or "beat the shit out of him".

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:21 AM

Really your only best option I can see is to keep forcing the subject onto him. Keep calling him out when you see him hit in games. Be a little bit forcefull to him.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:22 AM

how about you tell him that you won't bring him along or let him play the next time if you catch him cheating, that way you go have fun and he sees you when you come back?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:24 AM

video or picture evidence would be best if he continues to deny he is hit.
Other than that, all you really can to is call him out every time.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:26 AM

Stop shooting him in the mask and shoot him where it hurts: the ribs, underarms, fingers, etc. If you do shoot him in the mask, make sure to get his lens directly. If you can't see, you're clearly out. Keep calling him out on it and if he doesn't stop, just start shooting him 2-3 extra times. If 2-3 extra love taps aren't enough, make it 4-6. Eventually he'll get the message.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:33 AM

my logic on "wipers" is simple

If the first break on them isn't enough to get them out, shoot them some more

It's always better to give, than to receive...


Ask Willie, the people who I've caught wiping my hits, get STITCHED up from head to toe, over and over and over again


One poor guy who wiped a couple of my hits one time was in snake corner. He had no clue I had bunkered the last dorito player and I ran up the field. He was looking down the tape, and never saw me run up to his "home" bunker". He was completely and 100% exposed to me, I saw his entire left side of his body. I made sure I had a full hopper, and as I continued to shoot him, I made sure to keep saying "Get out cheater!!! (puff puff puff puff) get out cheater!!!! (puff puff puff puff puff) Cheater get out!!! Get our cheater!!!! (puff puff puff puff)"

He got the point :-)

If he doesn't want to play the part of the game, that says "when you get hit with a paintball, you get out", then you don't have to play the part of the game that says "When you see the ball break on someone, stop shooting"

If he wants to throw the rulebook out of the window, you can easily do the same

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:47 AM

first after mike!

^ what he said

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:43 AM

Its because you own a rogue...:dodgy:

1. Sell rogue and acquire any poppet valve gun
2.go to field with your brother
3.watch him get hit and not cheat ;)

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:50 AM

I follow the same principle as Mike.

If you wipe, you're getting lit the fuck up until you can't stand the pain. I've done it a few times in my career, Dude wipes and gets a full loader into the back while I scream in German.

Works wonders.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:34 PM

I follow the same principle as Mike.

If you wipe, you're getting lit the fuck up until you can't stand the pain. I've done it a few times in my career, Dude wipes and gets a full loader into the back while I scream in German.

Works wonders.

I'm thinking the screaming in German might work even without shooting a full hopper into the person. Screaming in German can be quite intimidating.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:38 PM

I'm thinking the screaming in German might work even without shooting a full hopper into the person. Screaming in German can be quite intimidating.


This is a good idea, I actually know German. Thanks Backpacker.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:48 PM


I'm thinking the screaming in German might work even without shooting a full hopper into the person. Screaming in German can be quite intimidating.


This is a good idea, I actually know German. Thanks Backpacker.

Hey, give the credit where its due. Hero came up with the idea.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:21 PM

take him outside...shoot him...and tell him thats what its like to get hit...and then shoot him from a far distance and tell him this is what a bounce feels like...or just to simply paint check every time he gets hit...if there is any question in that the paint hit him...he should just call himself out...there is no shame in dying...its just a game...also i have to say this cause its you

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:31 PM

I follow the same principle as Mike.

If you wipe, you're getting lit the fuck up until you can't stand the pain. I've done it a few times in my career, Dude wipes and gets a full loader into the back while I scream in German.

Works wonders.


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:58 PM

Teach me German? Perhaps you were refering to yourself, because I am German. Lol

Mine comes out when I'm angry... Can't help it.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:11 PM

German is a very awesome, and intimidating language.

fuck yolo
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:16 PM

German is a very awesome, and intimidating language.

And Russian.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:20 PM


German is a very awesome, and intimidating language.

And Russian.


And Spanish. It freaks me out when my Spanish teacher just starts screaming in Spanish for no reason.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:33 PM



German is a very awesome, and intimidating language.

And Russian.


And Spanish. It freaks me out when my Spanish teacher just starts screaming in Spanish for no reason.

Spanish is meh, I hate Spanish class, too bad my school cut funding for all other languages.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:03 PM

Try screaming in Nordic, or in Gaelic, really blow someones mind lol

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:30 AM

My stance:

Do it once, Ill remind you to check

Do it twice, Ill have the ref pull you from play for the next few games (love my local refs haha)

Do it three times, Ill bonus ball the shit outta you.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:52 AM

Solution is simple, shoot until you see a hand.
Hand goes up, I get the elimination and I get off the trigger.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:33 AM

Fuck all those languages.

Try screaming in dwarven :D .
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:07 PM

We are currently debating what to do next season when we play. We play outlaw at a field on land my family owns. This one guy that came with a guy we invited, while a nice enough guy, he is just a dink. Talking about how Tippman is the only gun anyone should have....old vintage guns are great etc. He saw my PMI III and nearly crapped his pants. Anywho, he is a guy who doesn't like to call himself out. Normally we would not invite him back, but he does bring along 4-5 of his friends...and they are all cool people. The general thought that we all have come up with, is we are going to light him up like a christmas tree next year when he doesn't call himself out.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 01:34 AM

I follow the same principle as Mike.

If you wipe, you're getting lit the fuck up until you can't stand the pain. I've done it a few times in my career, Dude wipes and gets a full loader into the back while I scream in German.

Works wonders.


I'm not sure how you scream in German, considering just speaking the language conveys to the world that you are pissed off (grandparents used to talk to me in German and it scared the shit out of me). Lol.

I would has to agree with mike, if they are caught wiping color them in with your marker.... Make sure to stay in the lines.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:13 PM

Teach me German? Perhaps you were refering to yourself, because I am German. Lol

Mine comes out when I'm angry... Can't help it.


Really delayed but my previous statement mean to be directed at AT3256.
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