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#1 miniowns123

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:43 PM

So im upgradeing from a mini to either a axe reflex rail i want to know what's better. or give me a other suggestion within 500-600 price

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:14 PM

If u like your mini but want a bit more out of it, get an axe. I will say that the reflex has better ergos but I don't really mind the axes at all. The reflex will also be a bit quieter and smoother since it is a spoolie. I would also look into an alien invasion which is about 600 with a virtue board from alien I believe.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

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#4 miniowns123

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:17 PM

Why do you say the axe over the proto reflex.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

Why do you say the axe over the proto reflex.


I believe the Axe shits down the Proto's feedneck.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:22 PM

Are you really gunna try to say thats the only reason why i should get a axe LMFAO!! the proto looks WAY better feels better and LOOKS better.. is this a troll? u cant be serious.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:28 PM

Are you really gunna try to say thats the only reason why i should get a axe LMFAO!! the proto looks WAY better feels better and LOOKS better.. is this a troll? u cant be serious.


You are asking for an opinion and you are getting mine. If you don't like it, you can take it or leave it. My advise.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:53 PM

Getting the rail thanks :)

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:08 AM

No problem. Have fun wasting your money.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:26 AM

kingjurzy for president.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:13 PM

To not be a dick, and to answer your original question.
The axe is great. Really, it is. Its a good performing marker. Great trigger, great shooter. It will get the job done. It comes down to what you want more from a gun. An axe isn't quite as smooth as a relfex rail, it is close, but its also not quite as quiet. It is however, more efficient by about 2 pods The ergos are either love hate. I prefer the reflex rails ergonomics, but if you have a mini the difference isn't that big with the axe.
What made the difference for me was the goodies they came with. The reflex rail comes with a nice case, nice 2 piece barrel, lube, allen keys, a better warranty, and i just think it looks way better.
Get the one based on what you want.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

kingjurzy for president.


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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:08 PM

Have you looked into the drone? just wondering. Out of those two though i would pick the reflex rail.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:13 AM

yeah drone i guess i have to get a diffrent air tank low pressure but thanks man i think im getting the reflex does it shoot better then the axe?

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:14 AM

i think im getting the reflex does it shoot better then the axe?


No.


My Axe shot like butter compared to the 2 reflexes on the field that day.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:44 AM

yeah drone i guess i have to get a diffrent air tank low pressure but thanks man i think im getting the reflex does it shoot better then the axe?

you don't need low pressure for the drone. It works with any tank output.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:07 PM

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

yeah drone i guess i have to get a diffrent air tank low pressure but thanks man i think im getting the reflex does it shoot better then the axe?

Drone doesn't need an l.p. tank and shoots butter.
Out of the box with no tuning I'm giving the smoother shot to the reflex, but you can tune/upgrade either. The axe has a wealth of upgrades you can do the relfex rail only really has one or 2. I tend to stay away from upgrades
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:26 PM

Axe. If you add a boss bolt it makes it super quiet,super smooth,very efficient

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:52 AM

I currently own both -- a 2011 Reflex Rail and a 2011 Empire Axe. They are both awesome guns and you can't go wrong with either one. I personally like my axe better, but its all about personal preference. Just a heads up though, the Reflex is bigger in your hands than you might realize if you are used to shooting a Matrix Rail or a Mini.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:02 PM

Spoolies: Shoot gr8, not as efficient as poppies, shoot softer
Poppets: Shoot a little less smooth, louder, more efficient

The Axe just looks downright badass, and imo, the ergos look pretty nice, too, but not everyone may like them.
The Reflex Rail has badass ergos.

Either one is great, I'd need to have both in my hand to pick one since they are both great looking guns with tons of people who recommend each.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 10:49 PM

Reflex all the way.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:04 PM

I agree with kingjurzy, The axe is superior. And it gets even better with upgrades while the reflex rail is maxed out for itself and really sucks.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:29 PM

I agree with kingjurzy, The axe is superior. And it gets even better with upgrades while the reflex rail is maxed out for itself and really sucks.

Why is the axe superior?

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:14 AM

I say drone>axe>reflex rail.

Drone shoots really smooth

axe can be upgraded a lot

reflex rail uhmm... has good ergos i guess??

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:41 PM

Axe every time.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:30 PM

Axe if you tune it properly

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:25 PM


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:38 PM


I agree with kingjurzy, The axe is superior. And it gets even better with upgrades while the reflex rail is maxed out for itself and really sucks.

Why is the axe superior?

The Rail is nice to hold... That's about it. Yes, it has a nice trigger and a good ASA... But it shoots like garbage, it has sub-par efficiency, and the Axe has a simpler bolt system.

Once you get over the awkward front grip on the Axe, it's an awesome shooter with good efficiency and a decent trigger.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:08 PM

Drone's a great marker, though I'm not a fan of the trigger. The Axe trigger is...hmm, I'm looking for the words to say this...fan-f%*@ing-tastic. The reflex rail has a nicer look and is slightly smoother up until you put a lurker bolt in the Axe - has an ok trigger but nothing like the Axe. The Axe is slightly heavier but it maybe feels more balanced than the reflex rail.

I'd call it Axe then the Drone then the Reflex Rail based on the markers mentioned above.

However, this doesn't include the other "mid-range" markers that are also viable options: PE Etek 4, Tippman Crossover, Alien Invasion, DP Fx, and PE Etha. I'd recommend looking at this post from former mod Latsabb: http://www.techpb.co...1
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:07 AM

dont forget the customer dedication of empire and kee action.Any time something is wrong they just offer me a brand new parts/gun as long as i pay shipping. :) Thats why id say axe which is what im planning on upgrading to.You cant go wrong with either of those guns though

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 11:16 PM

If you are considering the new 2013 reflex, it has an lpr on it which will give you even better shot quality than the 2012 reflex, which shoots quite nicely as it is.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:43 PM

Go stock axe bro. The rail has a bad trigger. The rail got crap effiency
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:24 PM

Get the AXE, it has an awesome shot quality and is super quiet and efficient. The reason I don't like the proto reflex rail, is because the hyper 3 reg is way too tiny for my hands and tends to unscrew as you play.

Also, I've heard that getting the bolt engine out of the Reflex is kinda difficult. The Axe has too less bolt removal and doesn't get stuck inside the bolt housing. Plus there are all kinds of aftermarket bolts to customize your AXE.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

Both are great guns, i also own both and like the axe better for me it seems more reliable and feels better in the hands but that is all personal preference. The axe, thought, gets way better efficiency and i feel has a better trigger.




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