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#1 tallsmallboy44

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:33 PM

So I have this Trilogy here, and I'm having some issues.

I'm cocking it, then screwing in the tank. I can fire the first shot or two, then it doesn't "autocock" and I have to cock it manually. It will then fire another ball or two and restart the process. While uncocked, it leaks down the barrel, and the bolt and back block will move when the trigger is pulled. I can't seem to figure out the problem. I would love to it ups video and show you what it is doing, but sadly I don't have any air, or a video camera.

Edited by tallsmallboy44, 28 November 2012 - 11:03 PM.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:36 PM

When you shoot it, make sure you're pulling the trigger all the way back. You may be short stroking it. Also, the gun leaking while uncocked is normal, that's because the hammer is resting on the valve holding it open.

Edited by andrewthewookie, 28 November 2012 - 10:37 PM.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:37 PM

If you have an adjustable LPR start there.

All autocockers leak when not cocked. The way I fixed this problem was by messing with the LPR and HPR until it shot right.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:41 PM

I cat really see if it feels week, I don't have any air. I could try this weekend. I was just kind of wondering if I was doing something wrong. I was planning on pumping it, but wanted to play mech before I get a pump kit.

If you have an adjustable LPR start there.

I don't think the Trilogy has an adjustable LPR, does it?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:43 PM

I cat really see if it feels week, I don't have any air. I could try this weekend. I was just kind of wondering if I was doing something wrong. I was planning on pumping it, but wanted to play mech before I get a pump kit.


If you have an adjustable LPR start there.

I don't think the Trilogy has an adjustable LPR, does it?


Nope, I read it wrong I thought it was another cocker.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:45 PM

Nope, I read it wrong I thought it was another cocker.

That is what I thought. Any other suggestions?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:46 PM

The trilogy's LPR is adjustable, you just have to take it off the gun first.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:49 PM

So, would playing with the LPR help?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:59 PM

Maybe, but the next time you have air, pull the trigger very slowly and see where the sear release is, then where the cocking point is on the trigger pull. If those seem to be in order (trip the sear first, re-cock after but not too close to releasing the sear), then try and shoot it and make sure that you're pulling the trigger all the way, and releasing all the way every single time. If it's timed properly, and you don't think you're short stroking it, then it could be the LPR. When you're pulling the trigger all the way back, and the gun's bolt is open, push down on the back block to see how strong/weak it is. You'll want it strong enough to resist the push, but not rock hard.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:02 PM

Thanks Wookie.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:44 AM

and if you do take off the lpr, dont pull the hoses through the plastic rings. just pull the hose off of the barb and keep the hoses through the plastic loops. this will save you time putting it all back together.

i believe its counter clockwise for higher pressure and clockwise for lower pressure.

does it have any aftermarket parts like the techt timing shaft?

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:21 PM

It has a CP detent (shouldn't be affecting anything) and an Eclipse hinge trigger frame. I don't think they affect anything. Those are the only ups I'm aware of because I bought it used.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:58 AM

with a different frame on there, it may need a few more adjustments with the lug and/or trigger adjustment screws. check with the slow pull test and we will go from there.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:45 AM

id just pump it now. It will make your life much easier.lol

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

id just pump it now. It will make your life much easier.lol

Parents don't know I have it yet. Must try to buy without them knowing.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:49 PM


id just pump it now. It will make your life much easier.lol

Parents don't know I have it yet. Must try to buy without them knowing.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:53 PM


id just pump it now. It will make your life much easier.lol

Parents don't know I have it yet. Must try to buy without them knowing.


I always do this with new markers, I just tell them that it is a friend's marker.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:40 AM



id just pump it now. It will make your life much easier.lol

Parents don't know I have it yet. Must try to buy without them knowing.


I always do this with new markers, I just tell them that it is a friend's marker.

I will probably just tell them I traded my 98c for it.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:48 AM

When was the last time it was cleaned?
Perhaps there's crap in the valve that's not allowing it to open and seal as it's supposed to.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:56 AM

I think Antonious is on the right track.






id just pump it now. It will make your life much easier.lol

Parents don't know I have it yet. Must try to buy without them knowing.



I dont need to do that because my parents have no idea what i have at any given week lol

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:58 AM

But how would the valve not opening properly affect the cocking? It would keep it from shooting, but the cocking is not related to valve issues, usually.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:11 PM

But how would the valve not opening properly affect the cocking? It would keep it from shooting, but the cocking is not related to valve issues, usually.

The hammer could be so bogged down with sludge that the back-block may not be able to push the cocking rod back enough to cock. You never know.
I'm just adding another factor one should check for basic maintenance and trouble-shooting; I felt it unnecessary to simply repeat "LPR" for the fifth time.

Make sure the gun is completely clean, and I'm sure it'll either resolve, lessen, or pin-point your issue.

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