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#1 Orange Chicken

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

So I wanna buy a sub 300 dollar pump gun, used or new. What should I look for? Im not at all new to pump play, 3 years ago all I ever used when I was starting was a phantom or a ccm borrowed from a friend. Ive had the most experience with the Phantom, so should I go with that? I really dont want to get a 'cocker pump yet, especially used, since I want to make that for myself later on, maybe in a few years or so, since I want that to be personalized. So any suggestions?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:09 PM

Honestly if you are willing to go as high as $300 it would be worth the extra $100 to save to get a used T2.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:11 PM

I would go for a used Empire Sniper

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:49 PM

Yep used snipers are nice (empire kind and otherwise).

But it really depends on what u want. Do you want a stock class or tourney worthy pump. Its your choice on how this goes down
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:14 AM

Umm stock class is fun, and ive played that the most, but will I be at a significant disadvantage(not counting that im playing pump) using stock class? The empire sniper I can do both if I remove the screws.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:45 AM

Your call, it's more of a nuisance than anything.

Snipers I think would be less efficient than phantoms so 12g wise phantoms gets you more shots

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:17 PM

If it's really about budget, and you're still new to pump, check paintballgateway.com if you want to buy new.

If you want to buy used, look in the BST or ebay for autococker sniper pumps (sniper just means mechanical converted to pump).

You could save a bit more and get a used CCM gun, which are basically the Egos of the pump world. The Empire Sniper's main allure is its attachments that it comes with: the barrel kit, stock class stick feed, hitman mod on the pump handle.. I haven't heard much raving about the actual gun design or anything.

I traded my old invert mini for an autococker sniper, bought some CCM upgrades for it, and a small barrel kit. Saved a bit of money, and when I get my parts later today it should shoot pretty great.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

I would go for the cci phantom, make sure it has a bottomline kit and a top feedneck, just pop a gxg 50rd hopper and a 13 3000 tank and you'll be set

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:36 PM

I would go for the cci phantom, make sure it has a bottomline kit and a top feedneck, just pop a gxg 50rd hopper and a 13 3000 tank and you'll be set

If you are against a cocker for now,then this setup is good.But,I recommend the APP 50 round hopper over the gxg one.I use a gxg and don't mind it,but I have used the APP before and it performed a lot better.Also,of you are looking for a pack the PBmafia 5/50 pack goes well with 50 round loaders.Likewise,the PBmafia joyride pack is good for stock class.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:59 PM

Please don't get the Gxg hopper it jams so much and I had it crack on me
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:51 AM

A used sniper(empire or not) would blow the others mentioned out of the water.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:14 AM

I actually own an empire sniper, they are not as bad as people make them ou to be. I would highly recommend it. The auto trigger lever should be removable and with the included stock class attachment you could have the best of both worlds. If you do decide to go that way you also won't have to buy 12gs or a new hopper. I use a spire and a 68/4500 on mine.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

Idk but the Azodin Kaos Pump seems pretty good to me
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

Idk but the Azodin Kaos Pump seems pretty good to me

They are good used.They can be had for a little more than $100 usually,but there are alot better options in that range.A trilogy pump is about the same price,and shits all over the AKP.I suggest a custom sniper,as they are fun to build and can perform to YOUR standards(hence the "custom")

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:05 AM

You will be at such a disadvantage with a SC gun, I actually didn't have fun playing SC when I was playing against all electros.

I just say get a CCM'd sniper, relatively cheap and better than the phantom, and I have owned both.

And don't buy a new WGP pump from paintballgateway, you're getting ripped off.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:43 PM

Idk but the Azodin Kaos Pump seems pretty good to me

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:58 AM


Idk but the Azodin Kaos Pump seems pretty good to me

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My thoughts too, unless you are dead set on buying brand new, there is no reason to get a KP.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:21 PM

I would take an AKP over a trilly anyday. Smoother pump stroke, easier maintenance (if there is any for a pump).

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:41 PM

Get the empire trracer, cheap as dirt and it has a clamping feedneck and will take hpa so no need to buy xtra crap.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

Get the empire trracer, cheap as dirt and it has a clamping feedneck and will take hpa so no need to buy xtra crap.

Also has a shitty bolt that breaks over time, mostly plastic, and with a bottomline it becomes somewhat more shitty feeling.

I would take an AKP over a trilly anyday. Smoother pump stroke, easier maintenance (if there is any for a pump).

Pump stroke is barely smoother, and with aspring kit the trilogy is a TON smoother.

Trilogy is stupid simple, the only thing that sucks is getting the internals in the bottom tube out the first time.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:51 PM

Any used pump, just look for.
CCM pump kit
Slider frame
Removable feedneck
Shocktech, belsales or ccm internals
delrin bolt
decent regulator and asa


I got my sto for $200 that shot as good as my s6.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:02 AM


Get the empire trracer, cheap as dirt and it has a clamping feedneck and will take hpa so no need to buy xtra crap.

Also has a shitty bolt that breaks over time, mostly plastic, and with a bottomline it becomes somewhat more shitty feeling.


Uh, I've also heard what G4 said but from a whole fucking pump team!

I want to try the Hammer7 just so I can recommend it over a trracer, seen and heard SOO many problems with the Traccers/mavericks/ect.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:45 AM

Ive played with a trracer for a weekend when I was with this pump team, and it was gross. It was plasticy, finicky feeling, velocity adjustment is crap, and I hated both the side feed thing and the pump stroke.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:07 AM

Phantoms, one of the Nelson valves done right
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