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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:22 AM

i have a g4 with a oled board and im looking to trade it for System X NME. i know nothing about this gun i wondering if you could give me some info about it also would it be a good trade. also keep in mind i need a tournament marker. Bob Long Alias Intimadator is the other maker he has which would be worth the trade if any!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:25 AM

NMEs are a timmy clone so they will shoot very similar. I would try for the alias, but if not definitely get the NME

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:22 AM

Well is that I've the oled g4. I've also got my eyes set on a marq 7. My only problem is the (clones) and Timmy are hard to find part for

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:28 AM

NMEs are a timmy clone so they will shoot very similar. I would try for the alias, but if not definitely get the NME



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:56 AM

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:11 PM

Are these good tournament guns? Are they super heavy. Also How efficient are they?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:25 PM


NMEs are a timmy clone so they will shoot very similar. I would try for the alias, but if not definitely get the NME



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Where would I find them at?
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:03 PM

Are these good tournament guns? Are they super heavy. Also How efficient are they?


Yes. They arent too heavy, not by any means light but they're not bricks like a 4x4 shocker. Very, I'd guess 1,500 off a 68/45.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

Mainly I'm looking to use it for a main tournament marker.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:35 PM

a timmy will serve you well. In a tourny setting as long as it meets the rof then you are fine.

but id et a marq 7 over a timmy.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

Well the rof is 12.5 psp. My g4 let's me do that with no problems.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:48 PM

I just need a better gun for tournaments.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

I just need a better gun for tournaments.


It just depends on the board, I'm not sure about stock alias', but some of the older ones just had semi and stuff. As long as the board does 12.5 it'll be a good gun for tournies.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

Ok then I think I'm going to keep my g4 then. It should work
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

forums are a good place to find timmy parts, otherwise i know ANS has a shit ton of timmy parts, so does armorypaintball.com, or hell even call BLAST, they still work on just about all their stuff

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:17 PM

really i didnt know that many people still workes on them
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

really i didnt know that many people still workes on them

Theres actually a huge number of people that rebuild, collect, and/or use old timmies. Thers a forum on "the other site" that is very active.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:12 PM


really i didnt know that many people still workes on them

Theres actually a huge number of people that rebuild, collect, and/or use old timmies. Thers a forum on "the other site" that is very active.


You can say PBN here Posted Image. Yeah on PBN the timmy forum is pretty active, also intimidator owners is good too.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:45 PM

Yay that's g4s
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really i didnt know that many people still workes on them

Theres actually a huge number of people that rebuild, collect, and/or use old timmies. Thers a forum on "the other site" that is very active.


You can say PBN here Posted Image. Yeah on PBN the timmy forum is pretty active, also intimidator owners is good too.


Haha, just a touchy subject ya know?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

it depends on what i getting offered on my camera or g4
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

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my only real question about these is, what up grades are they using?
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:39 AM

NME Join us!!!!!! It Rips 35bps,its got curces, and its large and incharge....whats not to like?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

it depend on the trades happen
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

Are these good tournament guns? Are they super heavy. Also How efficient are they?

Only 3lbs, and have all tournement board settings you could want....

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:47 AM

i hope. like i said right now it depends on the trade i have going right now.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:00 AM

http://www.techpb.co...howtopic=210620. here is the link to my g4. i think im more willing to do this trade because im getting a im9. i guess what im really asking, is it worth it.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:40 AM

IM9s are awesome, whether its the right gun for you is personal preference but I would take a Dye or Proto over DP any day.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:18 PM

ive never used either. i shoot both theo
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:28 PM

NME Join us!!!!!! It Rips 35bps,its got curces, and its large and incharge....whats not to like?

The G4 can also shoot 35bps.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

But it doesn't have those oh so sexy curves, and just doesn't have the same cool factor...

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

But it doesn't have those oh so sexy curves, and just doesn't have the same cool factor...



no but it does have the lighter factor
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:23 PM


But it doesn't have those oh so sexy curves, and just doesn't have the same cool factor...

no but it does have the lighter factor


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:55 PM

keep in mind i like both guns but the g4 is lighter
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:51 AM

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NME OVER G4. there is nothing nicer than a well tuned timmy, cept maybe a...ummm.... nope nothings better

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:53 AM

thats sad because i just past up 2
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:24 AM



But it doesn't have those oh so sexy curves, and just doesn't have the same cool factor...

no but it does have the lighter factor


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Hahahahahahaha soooo true! Its not unbeariblly heavy, but its got some heft to it, although the looks far out weight the weight. (No pun intended.)

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.
they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:51 AM

i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.
they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:18 AM

i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.
they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?


what a lot of people dont know is when you have one tuned properly, it shot better than a timmy. Plus you are guarantee to have the best looking gun on the field. but you're right. parts are a pain in the ass to find, so you're SOL if something breaks. I would recommend buying a 2nd NME just for parts if you go this route. if you're lucky you may be able to find one for like $100
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:52 AM


i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.
they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?


what a lot of people dont know is when you have one tuned properly, it shot better than a timmy. Plus you are guarantee to have the best looking gun on the field. but you're right. parts are a pain in the ass to find, so you're SOL if something breaks. I would recommend buying a 2nd NME just for parts if you go this route. if you're lucky you may be able to find one for like $100

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:54 AM

i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.

I often wonder how much of this is overall miss information and a gun getting a bad rap for no good reason other than huge amounts of bias towards the bigger comapanies i.e. WGP cockers over System X's, or BL over ICD

they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

I don't have any large amounts of experience with the NME however as far as electronices the T-board can be installed in just about anything, including timmies and timmy clones

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?

Because chances are you won't find and intimidator for the same price, because " ERHMAHGERD BOB LONG it must be worth a mint "



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:46 PM


i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.
they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?


what a lot of people dont know is when you have one tuned properly, it shot better than a timmy. Plus you are guarantee to have the best looking gun on the field. but you're right. parts are a pain in the ass to find, so you're SOL if something breaks. I would recommend buying a 2nd NME just for parts if you go this route. if you're lucky you may be able to find one for like $100


Also their work wasn't shotty at all. It was one of the good things that came out of System X factories. Each gun was milled, created, and assembled in America. They were actually super-guns with a price ranging from $950 and up when they came out. For the price that you can get them at now they are a steal and can out shoot most modern guns in today's scene. They aren't the most gas efficient and parts are indeed PITA to locate. But if you buy another NME for parts like NoLimits suggested than it'll be just fine. Also most Timmy parts can be fit on the NME, and if they don't fit it'll only take some fairly easy milling to fix it. If you can't find another board you're pretty much SOL, but the Universal T-Baord should do the job just fine. Also the boards from the FEP Quest, and the Alien markers that use the WAS boards will be able to be used as well. Not offended at all, just giving some more advice.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:48 PM

im trading the g4 for a stf shocker



i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.
they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?


what a lot of people dont know is when you have one tuned properly, it shot better than a timmy. Plus you are guarantee to have the best looking gun on the field. but you're right. parts are a pain in the ass to find, so you're SOL if something breaks. I would recommend buying a 2nd NME just for parts if you go this route. if you're lucky you may be able to find one for like $100


Also their work wasn't shotty at all. It was one of the good things that came out of System X factories. Each gun was milled, created, and assembled in America. They were actually super-guns with a price ranging from $950 and up when they came out. For the price that you can get them at now they are a steal and can out shoot most modern guns in today's scene. They aren't the most gas efficient and parts are indeed PITA to locate. But if you buy another NME for parts like NoLimits suggested than it'll be just fine. Also most Timmy parts can be fit on the NME, and if they don't fit it'll only take some fairly easy milling to fix it. If you can't find another board you're pretty much SOL, but the Universal T-Baord should do the job just fine. Also the boards from the FEP Quest, and the Alien markers that use the WAS boards will be able to be used as well. Not offended at all, just giving some more advice.



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:19 AM



i dont want to offend any of the NME owners here.. but NME's has pretty shotty quality when they were still in production. Thats why they never got a huge following.
they were made with cheaper quality parts than timmies and most importantly, no board you can get for an NME is still in production. so if you ever have a problem, you're pretty much fucked in that regard.

it might not be a bad gun if you can keep it running, but honestly... why get one when you can just get a real intimidator for the same price?


what a lot of people dont know is when you have one tuned properly, it shot better than a timmy. Plus you are guarantee to have the best looking gun on the field. but you're right. parts are a pain in the ass to find, so you're SOL if something breaks. I would recommend buying a 2nd NME just for parts if you go this route. if you're lucky you may be able to find one for like $100


Also their work wasn't shotty at all. It was one of the good things that came out of System X factories. Each gun was milled, created, and assembled in America. They were actually super-guns with a price ranging from $950 and up when they came out. For the price that you can get them at now they are a steal and can out shoot most modern guns in today's scene. They aren't the most gas efficient and parts are indeed PITA to locate. But if you buy another NME for parts like NoLimits suggested than it'll be just fine. Also most Timmy parts can be fit on the NME, and if they don't fit it'll only take some fairly easy milling to fix it. If you can't find another board you're pretty much SOL, but the Universal T-Baord should do the job just fine. Also the boards from the FEP Quest, and the Alien markers that use the WAS boards will be able to be used as well. Not offended at all, just giving some more advice.


Im not trying to start an argument here, im sure NME's are great guns if you can keep them up and running. But the idea that you should buy 2 NME's just so you can keep 1 running seems utterly INSANE.
Back in 2005, i wouldve been the first person to tell you that i wanted one of these. but the fact of the matter is, there wasn't a good reason to get one of these then and there isn't a good reason to get one of these now. at least not as a primary gun.

Maybe, just maybe, you could have made a solid case to pick an NME over a timmy back in 2005-2006... but now there is simply no reason why you shouldn't just get an alias/gen 3 timmy instead.
More parts, still have technical support through BLAST, still options to upgrade, still a huge community, still a wealth of knowledge for diagnosing problems and tuning.

like i said, if you want to get one and add it to your collection, go for it and enjoy it. But if you're spending hard earned money and basing an entire weekend's worth of fun on this gun, then i'd look elsewhere for the time being. again, they aren't bad guns, but at best, they'll shoot just as good as a timmy.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:24 AM

as i stated im going with a shocker
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:24 AM

gotcha, good choice :tup:

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:35 AM

i have to replace the uper board (which surprised the hell out of me that their was 2 board) and send it to virtue to let them fix their board.. dame board always causing problems.. im so glad my sp vibe is built like a timpmann
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