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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:03 PM

About the only reason I really like BMWs is because they are made in my hometown.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

Double post but idgaf.

Does anyone have experience with sound systems? I want to put in a couple better quality speakers in the back of my truck, and maybe a sub but I'm not sure of decent brands for like $100 max a speaker.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

Alpine type r speakers are really nice, stay away from Sony, only bad things from me on them.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

I'll always have a soft spot for BMW - Especially the M3. For me, that's home town, what I learned to drive in, and the first car I took out onto the track.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

Any BMW that's not an M3 or a 8-series is what I like to call an "Kebab trolley" :D

But the 8-series. Rawrrrr.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:47 AM

We have an m6 on the lot right now that would eat just about anything up.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

life is amazing with a RWD lightweight roadster when it just keeps snowing 2 inches every night.

ridiculous drifting, just absurd the slides you can get away with.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

life is amazing with a RWD lightweight roadster when it just keeps snowing 2 inches every night.

ridiculous drifting, just absurd the slides you can get away with.

I wish. The only RWD car we have right now is my dad's F150, and it's big, heavy, and has off road tires. Sliding with it only ends up being sketchy unless it's a wide open area.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

Double post but idgaf.

Does anyone have experience with sound systems? I want to put in a couple better quality speakers in the back of my truck, and maybe a sub but I'm not sure of decent brands for like $100 max a speaker.


I do, for door speakers I find Kicker to do really well.

As for subs, I've ran Alpine, Pioneer, and currently I have a Clarion 12" sub.

But most things besides Sony and BOSS are good.

BOSS makes decent amps, but their speakers sound rather terrible, and their subwoofers blow out like nobody's business.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

Most fun vehicle I find to play around with drifting around in the snow is a 4x4 pickup. Rear wheel drive when ya want it and with flick of a switch or pull of a lever 4x4 drifting. Awesome fun.

I also am a diesel mechanic for a living. And many times in the winter will take a Rig out to the back of the yard for a bit of fun. NOTHING like banging threw gears on the 13 speed with 550hp and 1600lbs/tq at your disposal. And getting 8 tons of truck drifting around parked trailers is just a blast and something to see.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:45 AM

My ranger is terrible in the snow. Its only 2wd, rear wheel of course. With no weight in the back I get massive wheel spin in like 4" of light snow and I'm only in 1st gear barely giving it gas. New tires too.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:11 AM

life is amazing with a RWD lightweight roadster when it just keeps snowing 2 inches every night.

ridiculous drifting, just absurd the slides you can get away with.


Try it with a AWD one. Shit starts to get ridiculous when you have power on all 4 wheels.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:12 PM


life is amazing with a RWD lightweight roadster when it just keeps snowing 2 inches every night.

ridiculous drifting, just absurd the slides you can get away with.


Try it with a AWD one. Shit starts to get ridiculous when you have power on all 4 wheels.


why would you ever want AWD ... understeer central
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:41 PM



life is amazing with a RWD lightweight roadster when it just keeps snowing 2 inches every night.

ridiculous drifting, just absurd the slides you can get away with.


Try it with a AWD one. Shit starts to get ridiculous when you have power on all 4 wheels.


why would you ever want AWD ... understeer central


The only AWD vehicle that I have had that has understeer in our current Honda Pilot. You HAVE to get on the gas to really get the rear end to come around. Other AWD vehicles I have owned are:
04 BMW x3
02 WRX
00 Legacy GT
99 Lincoln Navigator (actually a 4x4 but it had automatic engagement when it sensed it was slipping)
96 Impreza Outback


The BMW was an absolute blast in the snow. Turn off the stability control and you were getting the back end or wrap around yourself fairly easily.

This was my baby. I regret selling it.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:42 PM

all AWD cars will understeer at the limit, thats why the flick was invented.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:03 PM

Series 60 Detroit, one of the best engines around. At least its better then those maxxforce pieces of shit.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

The older Series 60s were great like the one in the truck i posted but once they went to the EGRs and then worse yet the VGT Turbo they became quite problematic. Although i have a Boat load of experiance with detroites (from the OLD 2 strokes right on up to the DD15s) I still find i prefer the Cats.

Sadly Cats out of the on highway game and i never have been a big fan of Cummins since the N14 engiens got replaced. And although i am VERY impressed with Detroites new DD15s technology and perfomance wise, they are VERY VERY complex beasts. They ARE NOT gona be pretty to fix when they get older. And dont get me started on those Maxx Craps International is try to pass for a Engine (dang 13 letter feices spreaders)

Heres a Vid of the Old cat powered truck i was talking bout racing at THE TRUCK RODEO in norther qubece. I helped get it ready for this but it was WAY out classed as it was running in the 600+hp unlimited class and it was only originally speced as a 425hp cat. bumped it to 475hp and ran steel intercooler piping streight piped exhaust and a full tune up. Still at least it completed every race many of the rigs didnt. thats 100,000lbs they hauling from a standting start up a 6-8% grade hill

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

all AWD cars will understeer at the limit, thats why the flick was invented.


Guess I must be on acid then, I only drive a Quattro every day. :rolleyes:


On a different note, considering getting an Audi Coupe or an VW Corrado.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:22 PM


all AWD cars will understeer at the limit, thats why the flick was invented.


Guess I must be on acid then, I only drive a Quattro every day. :rolleyes:


AWD will always understeer at the limit, idk what to tell you other then maybe you should put it at the limit and experience the AWD understeer-o-death. thats why AWD cars are always bad in large sweepers, power on understeer always makes the nose scrub wide. for nice tight corners, you flick 'em, and then when the car is pointed in the right direction you mash the throttle, again, another understeer performance characteristic.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:17 PM

The older Series 60s were great like the one in the truck i posted but once they went to the EGRs and then worse yet the VGT Turbo they became quite problematic. Although i have a Boat load of experiance with detroites (from the OLD 2 strokes right on up to the DD15s) I still find i prefer the Cats.

Sadly Cats out of the on highway game and i never have been a big fan of Cummins since the N14 engiens got replaced. And although i am VERY impressed with Detroites new DD15s technology and perfomance wise, they are VERY VERY complex beasts. They ARE NOT gona be pretty to fix when they get older. And dont get me started on those Maxx Craps International is try to pass for a Engine (dang 13 letter feices spreaders)

Heres a Vid of the Old cat powered truck i was talking bout racing at THE TRUCK RODEO in norther qubece. I helped get it ready for this but it was WAY out classed as it was running in the 600+hp unlimited class and it was only originally speced as a 425hp cat. bumped it to 475hp and ran steel intercooler piping streight piped exhaust and a full tune up. Still at least it completed every race many of the rigs didnt. thats 100,000lbs they hauling from a standting start up a 6-8% grade hill


Agreed, but basically everything with to do with EGR and diesel is a terrible idea. Alot of companies are trying natural gas on there high tractors like Cummins, which deletes both the EGR and DPF filters. That is the future in the trucking industry.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

Yeah read bit bout it but not seen anything yet were I'm working. Don't know were the future lies really all I do know is the old 12.7l detroite runnin 425hp gets 8mpg hauling 80,000lbs of beer. The new trucks with the egr and dpf running 550hp detroites get 4-5mpg hauling the same load. And even more shocking the smaller displacement lower spec 12.7 detroite can out pull the bigger engines. The dd15 have gotten some of that mileage back and pull stronger than both but they still only see 6 or 7 mpg.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:55 PM

Today I broke my speed record. Got up to 180 before I chickened out.
Ain't ever gonna go faster as long as I have these old skinny winter tires on my car.

I'm planning to take the car on a track this summer. Should get some fun out of that V6.
Not to mention driving really fast legally.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

Going fast can be scary as shit the first times you try it, especially in an unstable car, or with shit tires. I've gone stupid fast on a bike and in a car.... Never forget that feeling.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

As great as my A4 quattro is, with those tires it's not the most stable thing at high speeds.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

Today I broke my speed record. Got up to 180 before I chickened out.
Ain't ever gonna go faster as long as I have these old skinny winter tires on my car.

I'm planning to take the car on a track this summer. Should get some fun out of that V6.
Not to mention driving really fast legally.


Where you going by your speedometer in the car? If so, odds are you were way off on your speed...especially if you had different sized tires on. I know on my old SVT's they speedo said it could do 160...and people pegged it past that...but physics said they were doing 143 max. That was the absolute limit those cars could go before air drag and all those other fun little factors said, no more. Besides, hitting 180 in a V6 sounds basically impossible unless you have a good sized turbo/supercharger.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:13 PM


Today I broke my speed record. Got up to 180 before I chickened out.
Ain't ever gonna go faster as long as I have these old skinny winter tires on my car.

I'm planning to take the car on a track this summer. Should get some fun out of that V6.
Not to mention driving really fast legally.


Where you going by your speedometer in the car? If so, odds are you were way off on your speed...especially if you had different sized tires on. I know on my old SVT's they speedo said it could do 160...and people pegged it past that...but physics said they were doing 143 max. That was the absolute limit those cars could go before air drag and all those other fun little factors said, no more. Besides, hitting 180 in a V6 sounds basically impossible unless you have a good sized turbo/supercharger.


could he have meant 180km/h?
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

fastest i ever went in a car was 158 mph, GPS verified.

i do not recommend this speed for any reason. it is uncomfortably fast. even in a high performance car with good tires on a track.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

Of course he's talking about KPH. Nobody else except you idiots use that old system of redundant measurements.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:21 AM

Of course he's talking about KPH. Nobody else except you idiots use that old system of redundant measurements.


No I got up to 180 MPH in an Audi A4 from 1997. :dodgy:
Of course I'm talking about kilometers.

My speedometer shows 5-10km/h too much, and it went over the 180 mark so I'm guessing somewhere in the 175-180 range.


In Norway you can't change the diameter of your tires more than 5% before you have to have it at a shop and readjust everything. So yeah, my tires are legal and my speeds are accurate. Also, I've used a GPS several times and confirmed the 5-10km/h inaccuracy on my speedometer. Another thing, the recorded top speed of my car, with my engine is 220km/h, so it's more than possible to go 180.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

Fastest I've ever gone was kind of unexpected. I was riding in somebody's Volvo (Ew, I know) and he decided randomly to take it up to 110mph when I was in the car. After he slowed down and realized he wouldn't be killing me that day, I almost killed him myself. That was the last time I rode in his car, and I won't be trying that shit again until I'm in the proper environment. That was sketchy as all hell.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

Was it like an old Volvo wagon too?
A buddy of mine got up to 190km/t with an old 740.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:41 PM

Was it like an old Volvo wagon too?
A buddy of mine got up to 190km/t with an old 740.

Not a wagon, it was a sedan. Not sure of the year, but it was a 1990-something 850 T5R.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

Well, that's actually one of the not to bad Volvos, it's no S40, but still better than those 240, 740, 940 things.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:56 PM

Well, that's actually one of the not to bad Volvos, it's no S40, but still better than those 240, 740, 940 things.

Usually you're right. It's not a bad car, but I'm not a fan of Volvo's at all. I think they never really made anything outstanding and they are, for the most part, ugly cars. But this guy didn't take care of his, and the thing is falling apart.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:45 PM

Not a Volvo fan myself, except for the S40, that's a cool car.
I'd much rather drive something Japanese or German though.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:13 PM

I do kinda like the Volvo c30's. Fairly nice cars, just have a pretty decent hatch/wagon shape.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

The C30 isn't too bad either. Volvo has a few okay cars, but most of them looks like dogshit.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

I've hit 120mph with my hand-me-down Camaro. Not bad for an old v6.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:18 PM


Of course he's talking about KPH. Nobody else except you idiots use that old system of redundant measurements.


No I got up to 180 MPH in an Audi A4 from 1997. :dodgy:
Of course I'm talking about kilometers.

My speedometer shows 5-10km/h too much, and it went over the 180 mark so I'm guessing somewhere in the 175-180 range.


In Norway you can't change the diameter of your tires more than 5% before you have to have it at a shop and readjust everything. So yeah, my tires are legal and my speeds are accurate. Also, I've used a GPS several times and confirmed the 5-10km/h inaccuracy on my speedometer. Another thing, the recorded top speed of my car, with my engine is 220km/h, so it's more than possible to go 180.



First off doing those speeds on public roads is kinda irresponsible take it to a track it's far cheaper than the ticket fines or jail time. Secondly if ya do the math that top speed of 220km/h equates to 136.7mph so 180mph is questionable. Personally fastest I been is on my current bike cbf600sa is 230km/h (143mph) done on a drag strip speed measured on my gps cause speedo only goes to 220km/h. Fastest I been in a car is 200km/hr (124mph) did that in both a 2004 diesel VW Jetta and a modified 1988 Dodge Shadow ES turbo.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:25 PM



Of course he's talking about KPH. Nobody else except you idiots use that old system of redundant measurements.


No I got up to 180 MPH in an Audi A4 from 1997. :dodgy:
Of course I'm talking about kilometers.

My speedometer shows 5-10km/h too much, and it went over the 180 mark so I'm guessing somewhere in the 175-180 range.


In Norway you can't change the diameter of your tires more than 5% before you have to have it at a shop and readjust everything. So yeah, my tires are legal and my speeds are accurate. Also, I've used a GPS several times and confirmed the 5-10km/h inaccuracy on my speedometer. Another thing, the recorded top speed of my car, with my engine is 220km/h, so it's more than possible to go 180.



First off doing those speeds on public roads is kinda irresponsible take it to a track it's far cheaper than the ticket fines or jail time. Secondly if ya do the math that top speed of 220km/h equates to 136.7mph so 180mph is questionable. Personally fastest I been is on my current bike cbf600sa is 230km/h (143mph) done on a drag strip speed measured on my gps cause speedo only goes to 220km/h. Fastest I been in a car is 200km/hr (124mph) did that in both a 2004 diesel VW Jetta and a modified 1988 Dodge Shadow ES turbo.

Exactly. In addition to the fact that it's unsafe and irresponsible, in most cases going that fast on public roads is scary as hell.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:42 PM



Of course he's talking about KPH. Nobody else except you idiots use that old system of redundant measurements.


No I got up to 180 MPH in an Audi A4 from 1997. :dodgy:
Of course I'm talking about kilometers.

My speedometer shows 5-10km/h too much, and it went over the 180 mark so I'm guessing somewhere in the 175-180 range.


In Norway you can't change the diameter of your tires more than 5% before you have to have it at a shop and readjust everything. So yeah, my tires are legal and my speeds are accurate. Also, I've used a GPS several times and confirmed the 5-10km/h inaccuracy on my speedometer. Another thing, the recorded top speed of my car, with my engine is 220km/h, so it's more than possible to go 180.



First off doing those speeds on public roads is kinda irresponsible take it to a track it's far cheaper than the ticket fines or jail time. Secondly if ya do the math that top speed of 220km/h equates to 136.7mph so 180mph is questionable. Personally fastest I been is on my current bike cbf600sa is 230km/h (143mph) done on a drag strip speed measured on my gps cause speedo only goes to 220km/h. Fastest I been in a car is 200km/hr (124mph) did that in both a 2004 diesel VW Jetta and a modified 1988 Dodge Shadow ES turbo.


Do I need to spell it out for you?
I got to 180 Kilometers per hour. Aka 112 miles per hour. <_< Why are you even bringing the mph conversion in here? It's so completely irrelevant I can't even express it enough.

And irresponsible? Well, empty highway at 11PM, so the only person at risk is myself. It's dumb though, that I know.
Why do you think I stopped there and went back down to normal speeds? Tried going fast, and didn't really like it too much, too fucking scary in a car like that.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:54 PM

Sorry missed the sarcasm in ya prior post my apologies. As for the resposable part I was just saying if ya wanna go fast and test ya car it is FAR safer cheaper to do so at a drag strip or track rather then on public roads no matter we're or when.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:55 PM

Sorry missed the sarcasm in ya prior post my apologies. As for the resposable part I was just saying if ya wanna go fast and test ya car it is FAR safer cheaper to do so at a drag strip or track rather then on public roads no matter we're or when.

Can't disagree with that last part. But hey, I'm 19, now is the time to be an idiot. ;)

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:59 PM


Sorry missed the sarcasm in ya prior post my apologies. As for the resposable part I was just saying if ya wanna go fast and test ya car it is FAR safer cheaper to do so at a drag strip or track rather then on public roads no matter we're or when.

Can't disagree with that last part. But hey, I'm 19, now is the time to be an idiot. ;)

Yes! but my car can't handle stupidity. It's that lame. I've been saving up for a few years now, so hopefully soon I'll get something new.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:18 PM



Sorry missed the sarcasm in ya prior post my apologies. As for the resposable part I was just saying if ya wanna go fast and test ya car it is FAR safer cheaper to do so at a drag strip or track rather then on public roads no matter we're or when.

Can't disagree with that last part. But hey, I'm 19, now is the time to be an idiot. ;)

Yes! but my car can't handle stupidity. It's that lame. I've been saving up for a few years now, so hopefully soon I'll get something new.


I'm saving up for something myself. Looking at the Mazda RX-8 especially.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

I'm saving up for something myself. Looking at the Mazda RX-8 especially.

Just saw a really nice RX-8 on the way back from the field today. White with flat black accents and a really nice sounding exhaust kit. Too bad it was an automatic :lol:

They're great looking cars, but the rotary engine scares me...
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:28 PM


I'm saving up for something myself. Looking at the Mazda RX-8 especially.

Just saw a really nice RX-8 on the way back from the field today. White with flat black accents and a really nice sounding exhaust kit. Too bad it was an automatic :lol:

They're great looking cars, but the rotary engine scares me...

What scares you about them? Other than the cost of ownership, they are awesome.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

What scares you about them? Other than the cost of ownership, they are awesome.

I've never owned one, worked on one, or knew anyone who owned one, they're just completely alien to me. I do all my own mechanic work, so something I can't work on isn't very appealing.
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