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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

I know there aren't many guns that run on low pressure. But I am looking into getting a pump mainly as a backup. If I cannot get a pump that runs at low pressure, what other guns are there that can?



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

I don't think any pump runs at LP.

Most internal macroline markers are suggested to be run at LP so you don't blow the macroline in the marker.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

Cockers will run on low pressure, most of there valves run at 350psi, I run all my cockers on 500psi output with no problems.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Cockers will run on low pressure, most of there valves run at 350psi, I run all my cockers on 500psi output with no problems.


So a trilogy pump can run at lp?



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

The trilogy uses a 11/16 valve which is different then most autocockers, you might need the buy a Spyder spring kit to adjust the tension on the valve to make chrono. It's still do-able.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

Considering you must love cockers what would be your preference for a cocker than can be turned into a pump that works on lp? I saw some people in another post suggested a sniper with ccm parts in it



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

Any cocker really. All of the bodies are nearly the same, some just have fancy milling and logos IMO. A prostock will serve you fine and they can be had for cheap.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

my ccm shoots great with mid pressure tank.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:46 PM

Depends on what you consider "low" pressure.
500psi is the recommended input for a 'cocker with pneumatics.
You can get a lot lower, especially with a pump.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:53 PM


Cockers will run on low pressure, most of there valves run at 350psi, I run all my cockers on 500psi output with no problems.


So a trilogy pump can run at lp?


You might reach some issues (it could sweet spot very low out if the box) but put some new springs in it and you'll be more than fine. This is however about the lowest quality (it'll still work) pump gun you can buy, so decide really what your price range is and then we can help you out better on deciding a pump.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:59 PM



Cockers will run on low pressure, most of there valves run at 350psi, I run all my cockers on 500psi output with no problems.


So a trilogy pump can run at lp?


You might reach some issues (it could sweet spot very low out if the box) but put some new springs in it and you'll be more than fine. This is however about the lowest quality (it'll still work) pump gun you can buy, so decide really what your price range is and then we can help you out better on deciding a pump.


Price range is about I would say the most $350 or $400. Don't want to buy a new ccm or something too bad as a first pump



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:12 PM

Here is a quick rule of thumb-

* If the gun doesn't have macroline, use low pressure 300psi (G6R, Machine Vapor, Luxe, Victory, DAM, Vanguard Demon, Clone GT)

* If the gun has macroline and a regulator, use mid-pressure 500psi (DM13, Ego 11, Geo 3, ETEK, Proto Reflex)

* If the gun doesn't have a regulator, use high pressure 850psi (Tippmann A5, Kingman Spyder, Azodin Kaos, Tippmann M98, Tippmann Gryphon, etc)


This is just a recommendation, of course many guns are designed to function on just about any output pressure.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:49 PM

Here is a quick rule of thumb-

* If the gun doesn't have macroline, use low pressure 300psi (G6R, Machine Vapor, Luxe, Victory, DAM, Vanguard Demon, Clone GT)

* If the gun has macroline and a regulator, use mid-pressure 500psi (DM13, Ego 11, Geo 3, ETEK, Proto Reflex)

* If the gun doesn't have a regulator, use high pressure 850psi (Tippmann A5, Kingman Spyder, Azodin Kaos, Tippmann M98, Tippmann Gryphon, etc)


This is just a recommendation, of course many guns are designed to function on just about any output pressure.


Thanks again mike. Guess whatever pump I decide to get I'll have to out a reg on it. Might be better in the long run anyways to do that



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:06 AM

yes, guns with a reg on it (autocockers) will work fine with mid pressure

pump guns with no reg on it, like the Traccerr or the Phantom, tend to work best at high pressure

But keep in mind, some of the older style pumps need CO2 to work properly. Phantoms especially tend to like CO2, because the gas continous to expand as it exits the gun to get the ball to 300fps

I've had several pump guns that were designed specifically for CO2, that just didn't have volume needed to get to 300fps with HPA. The Arrow PREcision Sterling was one that comes to mind, I put everything from 700 to 1100psi HPA into it, couldn't get it above 260fps. With CO2 it would shoot 320fps all day long, but not with HPA

Go with the autococker style pump guns, like the new Empire Sniper, amazing guns

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:02 AM

The blazer also will work. Awesome but expensive.

Cockers can be converted to every style of pump play.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:50 AM

I use a Ninja slp reg on my ccm s6.5 and it runs fine.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:46 PM

If I go the kaos pump would I have to upgrade anything on it besides the barrel?

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

If I go the kaos pump would I have to upgrade anything on it besides the barrel?

i would buy a spyder spring kit and a regulator (if its the older one that doesn't come with a reg)

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:59 PM


If I go the kaos pump would I have to upgrade anything on it besides the barrel?

i would buy a spyder spring kit and a regulator (if its the older one that doesn't come with a reg)


If I get the kaos pump it'll be the second gen from ansgear. It says it has a low pressure inline reg. so I'm guessing it does have a reg on it so 500psi output should be fine



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:47 PM



If I go the kaos pump would I have to upgrade anything on it besides the barrel?

i would buy a spyder spring kit and a regulator (if its the older one that doesn't come with a reg)


If I get the kaos pump it'll be the second gen from ansgear. It says it has a low pressure inline reg. so I'm guessing it does have a reg on it so 500psi output should be fine


That will run off of 300psi just fine
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:59 PM




If I go the kaos pump would I have to upgrade anything on it besides the barrel?

i would buy a spyder spring kit and a regulator (if its the older one that doesn't come with a reg)


If I get the kaos pump it'll be the second gen from ansgear. It says it has a low pressure inline reg. so I'm guessing it does have a reg on it so 500psi output should be fine


That will run off of 300psi just fine


Yea still deciding lol choosing and electro was so much easier than choosing a pump






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