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#1 BuilderBob

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

Hello Everyone,

I recently bought an X7 Phenom and have really enjoyed it apart from my foregrip. I have not been able to find an off the shelf foregrip that is comfortable so I decided to model and 3D print my own. If you're into 3D printing I have posted the STLs on Thingiverse, feel free to download my rail mounting bracket to design your own accessories or try my complete grip. I will be documenting my various 3D printed mods, accessories, and experiments on this thread. If you have ideas for 3D printable mods, I'd love to hear them too!

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Foregrip - http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:59828
Mounting bracket - http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:59795


There has already been some excellent 3D printed mods for the X7, but unfortunately the creator has yet to share the printable STL files. Hopefully he will someday, I'd love to print the front shroud he's designed. Pictured below -
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What are your guys thoughts on 3D printing paintball accessories?

Edited by BuilderBob, 30 March 2013 - 01:21 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:31 AM

3D Print everything if given the chance. You could actually make quite a bit of money 3D printing your own "hopper shells" Magazines for Mag fed guns, pods?

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:37 AM

When 3d printing is it limited to a plastic material? Can you make soft rubber type things? Print up some reballs haha.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:01 AM

If you could make plastic versions of the standard Tiberius T8.1/9.1 mags I will give you snugglz so hard!

And if you made extendos... Posted Image

Edited by Soldier of Fortune, 12 March 2013 - 12:01 AM.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:06 AM

If you could make plastic versions of the standard Tiberius T8.1/9.1 mags I will give you snugglz so hard!

And if you made extendos... Posted Image


YES YES YES OMG YES!!!!

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:22 PM

Printed foregrip. Still needs some clean-up work, but would be very nice once its sanded to a matte finish
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:24 PM

If you could make plastic versions of the standard Tiberius T8.1/9.1 mags I will give you snugglz so hard!

And if you made extendos... Posted Image


Yea, that could be done. I would need a lot of reference pictures to get all of the sizes right. Ideally, the physical mag so I would measure it will digital calipers. I may do the mag fed conversion on my X7, if so I would definitely be making and printing my own extended mags.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:43 PM


If you could make plastic versions of the standard Tiberius T8.1/9.1 mags I will give you snugglz so hard!

And if you made extendos... Posted Image


Yea, that could be done. I would need a lot of reference pictures to get all of the sizes right. Ideally, the physical mag so I would measure it will digital calipers. I may do the mag fed conversion on my X7, if so I would definitely be making and printing my own extended mags.


You could print a mag well that is DAM mag compatible that way you can shoot FSR like a BOSS!


I still suck and barely know positions.

thats what my wife said when I first met her...


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:44 PM

^DO IT!!!

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

I really want a 3d printer, i just need to get better at designing on computers.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:57 PM

I really want a 3d printer, i just need to get better at designing on computers.


http://www.3dprinter...CFShgMgod0CwA7g

Only $842 but, if you're doing custom work here on the forum you could pay it off pretty easy.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:28 PM

the one I was looking at was about $2200, I almost have the money, I just need to do more research on how to use it.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:21 PM

the one I was looking at was about $2200, I almost have the money, I just need to do more research on how to use it.


It is pretty easy. I use 3Ds Max personally, but Blender and Google Sketch Up are both free and simple to use.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:05 PM

I wrote an English paper on these. Pretty interesting little machines. Posted Image

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:10 PM

If I send you my T8.1 mag then what is the turn around time and can I test out the prototype Posted Image

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:47 PM

If I send you my T8.1 mag then what is the turn around time and can I test out the prototype Posted Image


well with the V2 mags coming out I'd say wait tell you can get the double ?tabbed? ball pusher. It would be so much better than the original T-.1 mags.

Then you can buy the mag detent bar and spring, the main spring, the ball pusher and the bottom plate to install in the new mag.

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Tiberius Arms Mag Ball Retainer/Riser Knob Pin - H-DOWL 1/16 1.08
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$0.50

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$0.95

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$0.50

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$1.00

Posted ImageTiberius Arms T8.1 Mag Spring - SPRG28
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$1.95

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$1.95

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Tax:

Total is $7.30 in parts per mag


I'm curious exactly what a one piece mag body would cost to print. You wouldn't even need to clean up the the mags after printing as a way of saving time, producing more, and lowering the end cost. All you would have to do is put each mag and its respective parts in a bag and ship. Then the buyer would just have to clean up the rough mags and assemble.

Obviously you could work that out on a customer by customer basis and charge a little more to ship pre assembled.

p.s. I am assuming that the V2 ball pusher will cost the same as the V1.

Edited by Soldier of Fortune, 12 March 2013 - 11:48 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:34 AM


If I send you my T8.1 mag then what is the turn around time and can I test out the prototype Posted Image


I'm curious exactly what a one piece mag body would cost to print. You wouldn't even need to clean up the the mags after printing as a way of saving time, producing more, and lowering the end cost. All you would have to do is put each mag and its respective parts in a bag and ship. Then the buyer would just have to clean up the rough mags and assemble.

Obviously you could work that out on a customer by customer basis and charge a little more to ship pre assembled.

p.s. I am assuming that the V2 ball pusher will cost the same as the V1.


If I were to make a mag, I wouldn't sell it to others unfortunately. There are patents on these designs and to reverse engineer one, manufacture my own and sell them could obviously land me in some hot water. For now I'll mostly be designing my own riser rails, front shrouds, grips, etc. As for cost, I would probably guess one of the T8.1 mag would cost about $5 - $10 bucks in PLA plastic depending on how its printed (solid vs sparse fill for internal volumes).

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:53 AM

If I send you my T8.1 mag then what is the turn around time and can I test out the prototype Posted Image


Looking at pictures of the mag it looks like a fairly complex build. The fact that there is gas going through the stock as well could add more complexity. I wouldn't go sending your mag in the mail any time soon. If I do start experimenting with making mags, it would probably be for the Tacamo mag kit for the X7 when I upgrade my marker.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:20 PM

Final grip printed and attached to the X7
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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:54 PM

Hey Bob, what model did you print that on? I just ordered a QU BD Two up printer. Resolution should be comparable or better than the Makerbot, and the price can be as low as $200. Only downside is I think the print bed is kinda small, and the heated upgrade is kinda on the expensive side. But I have the capability to print. Which reminds me, do you know of anywhere that has files for the fakey mag that ships with the Phenom? I am not quite to that level of design prowess, but would like to be able to build my own Beta/drum mag for my SAW setup, and print it out, hopefully with some storage inside for a microfiber. And for printing the T 8/9.1 mags, go as strong as possible.

My suggestion to anybody looking to get stuff printed should check out Shapeways. They have a service where you upload a file, and they print it on their machines. That way all you need to do is get the files, and the liability is either on the consumer or the large company doing the printing, both of which I think Tiberius would not go after as hard as a hobbyist. I hope. But still, if you send something to them to be printed, my advice is to claim ignorance, unless what you are doing is clearly prohibited in writing on the site. 
Or you could do like what I am doing, drop a couple hundred on a printer, teach yourself CAD, take a class at a local college/technical school/community college/online/whatever, and use the ideas in your head, and the skills you learn to help bring even more innovation to the sport. I have found paintballers to be really crafty and smart. Put it to good use.
 



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:36 PM

The problem with 3D printers is you can't print air.  It sounds stupid reading it I know.  But hollow spaces can be a nightmare because the machine needs to form a so called back bone to keep printing up a skeleton and then a complete surface.  Magazines could potentially be a pain in the ass unless done in halves.  then you still have to cut out the ribs which support the outside of the shell. 

 

You've also got time constraints.  You can save all the money on the product you want but time is what kills you.  It can be hours to print a single part depending on complexity and if you crank up the detail on the machine it will take even more.  Rushing a job with a printer makes very noticable lines and grooves in parts but if you slow it down and print with more detail it can be very smooth.

 

Many paintball parts have the potential to printed but I'd stick with more inconsequential parts like the OP.  Btw grip looks good.

 

Bah, replied to a necro, fuck it 3D printing is still going strong in paintball concerning Simons Hopper.


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 07:03 PM

The problem with 3D printers is you can't print air.  It sounds stupid reading it I know.  But hollow spaces can be a nightmare because the machine needs to form a so called back bone to keep printing up a skeleton and then a complete surface.


Yes, I know this is a necro.


This is why SLS printers are the master race. Not only do you get much higher quality parts, but you can easily print hollow parts because the powder bed supports the layer above this. Unfortunately most SLS printers are very expensive, but you can use a service like Shapeways to get SLS parts for fairly cheap. Also the SLS patent recently expired, which means we may see some cheaper DIY SLS printers in the near future.

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