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#1 Panda Man

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:58 AM






I'm lost for words.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:01 AM

I'm lost for words.

Why?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:03 AM


I'm lost for words.

Why?


are you kidding me...

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:05 AM

are you kidding me...

No. Why would I be?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:08 AM


are you kidding me...

No. Why would I be?


.... :blink:?

did you even watch it?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:08 AM

That's a good idea.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:09 AM

.... :blink:?

did you even watch it?

Yes, I did. You need to stop assuming that your opinion about something is universal.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:10 AM

:ph34r:!!!!

Really?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:11 AM

Well, ok then. It's clear what you think.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:15 AM

Sorry I think this is silly for 98% of paintballers... I guess there is a market for that 2% I guess.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:16 AM

its actually a really good idea no distractions in the pits and you can keep your head in the game
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:19 AM

Sorry I think this is silly for 98% of paintballers... I guess there is a market for that 2% I guess.

Well, yeah. That's the whole point. He designed it specifically for teams that compete at high levels with full pit crews. If you read some of his posts, he did this almost as a personal project. He found a solution to something that annoyed him, and decided to make it available to others. Why does it need to be something all paintball players need?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:27 AM

For people who play lots of tournaments, I can see this being rather useful. The team can be building a strategy for their next point while the "pit crew" fills their packs without taking away from any player's ability to focus on the next game plan.

It's pretty unnecessary for rec-ball, but I could definitely see the upper-level tournament crowd loving this.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:35 AM

I think this is a pretty lame product to be honest, I fail to see how answering a simple question is THAT distracting that it will throw you off your game.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:52 AM

That actually seems like a cool and ingenious idea, I like it. A guy had a problem, and he fixed it, and he had a good idea too. Very good idea, well thought out, and well executed too. Makes it a hell of a lot easier and faster for the pit crew to do their job, and lets the player focus on playing and strategizing. You don't have much time between points, so every second counts.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:20 AM

Someone had to invent the hopper, there were plenty of people saying "Oh we'll never shoot that much paint, this stock 10 round tube on top is fine". This is another one of those little ideas that could one day change the Game. I can see how the "Pros" might like it.
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:00 AM

Someone had to invent the hopper, there were plenty of people saying "Oh we'll never shoot that much paint, this stock 10 round tube on top is fine". This is another one of those little ideas that could one day change the Game. I can see how the "Pros" might like it.

Exactly.
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:59 AM

hey pirate, good seeing ya man !!

as far as the "invention" ... i am always rooting for the small entrepreneur ...i might even buy one or two or a few and use it for something else just to support the guy ...i might like my number on my sandanna or whatever ...

but the other thing nobody has mentioned is that ANY invention for paintball is a good thing ... anything that puts us out in the public eye more, or makes other people think that "Hey I could come up with an idea like that" and it means that people are actively being engaged not only in the playing of paintball, but the business of it ... and that is how we get bigger, better, and more accepted ... i applaud this guys ingenuity and his stick to it-ness .. he said he tried more than one solution, so he has got the gears moving in his head ... good for him !!!

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:55 AM

That's just sad sorry.
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:11 AM

Sorry I think this is silly for 98% of paintballers... I guess there is a market for that 2% I guess.


this products not designed for the 98% of paintballers who just play rec, this is designed for the tourney players that only get 2 minutes from the end of the point till they have to be touched up at the net. this is made and marketed for them. its actually a smart idea and probably makes the pits run a little bit smoother and anything that can help that chaos even a little bit is a good thing.
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:16 AM

That's just sad sorry.


This.. It is quite sad if you can't remember how much pods someone requires or in the up or down position.. I am sorry, but i really don't see the point in using this, not even for tourny players.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:19 AM

Jimmy Hickey lol. Sorry, it made me laugh.

But I think it's not a bad idea. For me to use, it would be silly. But if it solves his problem, and it's something he can market and sell to make some extra money on the side, that's pretty cool.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:33 AM

the guy from 0:20 to 0:23, that guy reminds me of what clients with schizophrenia look like... It's kinda creepy that a "sane" person just zones out like that.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:35 AM


That's just sad sorry.


This.. It is quite sad if you can't remember how much pods someone requires or in the up or down position.. I am sorry, but i really don't see the point in using this, not even for tourny players.


It's for the teams who can't afford pit crews, and grab random kids from the crowd who will be their pit crew in exchange for shits and such. You generally tend to underestimate those people on purpose, so you're not disappointed when they can't remember anything.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:39 AM

^That is true.

See I was thinking these would "ONLY" be marketed towards pro level... then I thunk about it..


While "pro's" Don't make ten million bucks a year, they can still get someone from their organization to pod monkey for them... This is designed for people in D1/D2 area which brings it from only 2% of players needed it to 5%. :P

Though when you in the heat of the moment and its only a 1 point game you probably just want to head straight to the coach or the captain to figure out WTF needs to happen next game, and you don't have some 15 year old asking you ten thousand question.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:03 PM

"How many pods?"
"5"

Good lord, you just fucked up the whole game right there.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:23 PM



That's just sad sorry.


This.. It is quite sad if you can't remember how much pods someone requires or in the up or down position.. I am sorry, but i really don't see the point in using this, not even for tourny players.


It's for the teams who can't afford pit crews, and grab random kids from the crowd who will be their pit crew in exchange for shits and such. You generally tend to underestimate those people on purpose, so you're not disappointed when they can't remember anything.


Very well, I can see it might work like that then yet I still wonder how distracting it is when you have to answer 1 or 2 questions regarding your pods, even in the heat of battle. I suspect it to be little to none.

Al tough, those numbers and icons on pins isn't anything new. You can buy those anywhere really.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:28 PM

Some of you guys are a little too butt hurt about this. Two minutes between points isn't a lot of time. When you have somebody getting clipped off the break every game or you're having a hard time controlling their ___ player, everything can be a distraction when you're trying to figure out how to fix it in just two minutes. It's usually not just a "how many pods?" and then answer thing, it usually happens as "how many pods/do you need more pods?" you answer, then the next 4 people get asked, then 2 or 3 people get asked again, lol. Sometimes it's the littlest things that win or lose a game. One time I reached for a pod in a game while shooting a lane and went through the whole motion of grabbing it and trying to load before I realized there wasn't any paint lol. I tried to reach for a new pod and didn't even have it out of the pack before I got blasted. Yes, make fun of me.

If you think this is a stupid idea... just don't use it. It's not like they're trying to make this a standard, and it's not like this is something that would out you $100+ for using it lol.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:44 PM

No idea if there's a market for these things, but I've got respect for anyone who comes up with an original idea and turns it into a product.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:56 PM

No idea if there's a market for these things, but I've got respect for anyone who comes up with an original idea and turns it into a product.



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hell even at say a D4 level with a single guy pitting for a 5 man team it could come in handy

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:00 PM

Having actually played tournamen ball... I can't say that I view this as neccesary or even helpful. If you're having pit problems, get a better crew, or have guys that play on your squad, but arent called into the current line for that point to do it.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:02 PM

No idea if there's a market for these things, but I've got respect for anyone who comes up with an original idea and turns it into a product.


Yet it is not original, its something that existed for years now. He just used the pins on paintball gear. Hardly anything original in my book.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:34 PM

Seems like a good idea. If it works for him, in his situation, then that's great! It's not like he's investing a ton of money into it or something.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

I suspect it to be little to none.


If it was little to none, we wouldn't have had the guy getting annoyed with the questions and making these. ;)

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:57 PM

It's not like the guy is starting a company that he wants to make millions of dollars. He went "this is annoying, how do I fix it?" He found a solution and is sharing the solution. It's not like he's saying "ZOMG! This will revolutionize the industry!!!"
If you don't need them, fine, don't buy them. If you are the 0.5% of players who have this problem, you now have a solution.
At least this product actually does something. How many products are completely pointless in paintball that sell really well?



That's just sad sorry.


This.. It is quite sad if you can't remember how much pods someone requires or in the up or down position.. I am sorry, but i really don't see the point in using this, not even for tourny players.


It's for the teams who can't afford pit crews, and grab random kids from the crowd who will be their pit crew in exchange for shits and such. You generally tend to underestimate those people on purpose, so you're not disappointed when they can't remember anything.


I'm amazed if you find a pit crew who will work for shits.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:07 PM

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:14 PM

I can see it's use. In tourney Xball setting time is extremely limited. For example you don't really want to be interrupted if you're trying to convey a point or strategy to your other line going out. Yeah your paint load may change but the number would essentially be your default number. Especially when playing back to back points every second is quite crucial. Hell sometimes if you're the one who hangs the flag by the time you get back in you're choosing between a drink of water or filling your air. Is it going to make or break your game? Of course not. But if it saves you even a bit of time then why not use it?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:25 PM

Why not just not buy it? Its pathetic that the guy had to come into a forum and literally explain why he decided to market these (not here on PBN)... He had an issue and figured hell other people may have this problem also which they do and he set about finding a way to fix the problem... If you dont see the use for them dont buy them its as simple as that? I think its a solid foundation to allow him to expand to bigger things when SP restructured into GOG the first they they marketed under their new name was not a marker, loader, or even anything more then 10 dollars it was 5 dollar lube... Its not a great example but it just shows you gotta start somewhere no matter who you are?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:17 PM

I'm amazed if you find a pit crew who will work for shits.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

Anything that makes life simpler is better. Hell the idea along is good I might just use it but instead of pins duct tape and a black marker.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:39 AM

Folks should know that if you keep shitting on small makers for bringing products to market that you don't happen to understand, all you are doing is making it that much less likely other small makers will continue to be around in paintball.

It's hard enough competing with the big, established names, small manufacturers don't need this.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:49 AM

Common problem, simple solution. I like it. It's actually a very clever idea.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:34 AM

Why not just write it down before hand and give it to your pit crew?

#9: Needs 5 pods
#12: Needs 8 pods Face up
#125: Needs 6 pods Face up
#44: Needs 9 pods Face down
#68: Needs 4 pods

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:56 AM

What if you want different pods on a separate point though? Taking the pin off and replacing it would almost defeat the point.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:01 AM

Why not just write it down before hand and give it to your pit crew?

#9: Needs 5 pods
#12: Needs 8 pods Face up
#125: Needs 6 pods Face up
#44: Needs 9 pods Face down
#68: Needs 4 pods

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If you are gonna waste time doing that why dont you just use pin?

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:36 PM

If there's a need for the product the market (i.e. pro-level/tourney players) will ensure that this product is successful and spreads. If it's a very niche product that only works out for the developer because it addresses a problem he's faced, more power to him.

It's not like he's trying to claim the honor of inventing and developing the wheel. He just managed to create something that integrates well with his team's play/management style and interfaces effectively with his pit crew.

Pure market forces: player experiences, word of mouth and feedback will determine the success of this product. It might be very specialized and not pertinent to rec players but hey, until we're all forced to use some strange management scheme that we don't agree with, I wouldn't fret about it. :) :D :lol:




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