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#1 marceldacs

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:24 AM

so... I lost my long and short springs, so i never had those. The medium spring in my boss bolt axe is not working anymore. I suspect it has lost its strength and it has trouble returning the bolt to the back position. I now do not have a spring to use with my boss bolt. Thankfully i still have my stock bolt and stock spring which work. However, i miss the quiet shot that the boss bolt gave me. Can i use my stock spring with teh boss bolt, or do i just have to by a spring kit again?

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:26 AM

When you take the engine out of the gun, how easy is it to slide the bolt back and forth on the bolt guide? Springs rarely just "go bad," so I suspect it is something else. Is there a right and wrong way to put the spring in?

Edited by andrewthewookie, 25 March 2013 - 12:29 AM.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:28 AM

not impossible or hard, but it isn't smooth or anything. it does feel really gritty and when you slide it it makes a buzz sound.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:30 AM

Then I would suggest cleaning and relubing the bolt and bolt guide, and making sure the o-rings are good.

Edited by andrewthewookie, 25 March 2013 - 12:30 AM.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:32 AM

i might try that. I just find it very strange that it happened so suddenly. One week, my axe was performing fine, but the next weekend, it started doing this. The bolt would be returned by the spring, it would just be done very slowly and my axe couldn't go faster than 2 bps. SHould i use the stock axe grease or PE grease. Those are the only dow 33s i have laying around right now. and the orings are good. the axe is pretty new. Only had about 3 cases through it WITH the boss bolt before this problem occured.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:35 AM

Either one will be fine, I'm sure. Also, whatever's happening, anything that feels gritty when it's supposed to be sliding smoothly is not the way it should be.

Edited by andrewthewookie, 25 March 2013 - 12:42 AM.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:39 AM

not really gritty. It has a vibrating feeling when you slide it because of all teh small ridges on the bolt.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:42 AM

Is the spring the right way on? Is the bolt tip bumper on the bolt fine?

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:43 AM

could it just be too much or too little lube? ALso, would stretching the spring to make it a little stronger help a little? I highly doubt it but idk. Lastly, what would happen if i used my stock spring with my boss bolt.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:45 AM

Don't try stretching the spring, we don't know if that's the problem. Lube is probably not it either, and yes, you can use your stock spring with the bolt. What about my previous post? Did you put the spring the right way on? Is the bolt tip bumper fully on the bolt?

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:47 AM

Is the spring the right way on? Is the bolt tip bumper on the bolt fine?

the spring goes on both ways so the direction doesn't matter. The direction of the spring only matter when using teh stock bolt and spring. the bolt tip bumper is fine.

i think the problem is too much friction between the bolt guide and the interior of the boss bolt. Idk how to solve it though.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:48 AM

the spring goes on both ways so the direction doesn't matter. The direction of the spring only matter when using teh stock bolt and spring.

That's not what Boss says. The small diameter end of the spring is supposed to go towards the back of the bolt.

http://youtu.be/GIf2XAFNQqU?t=41s

Edited by andrewthewookie, 25 March 2013 - 12:49 AM.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:51 AM

you sure?

from their website: http://www.bosspaint...m/axe_parts.htm

BOSS SPRING KIT


Features


Ground ends for a better fit.
Improved bolt return rates.
No more dye colors that wear off and can't tell which spring is which
Both end of the spring are the same size, no more putting it on backwards

once i get some air ill test it out with the spring on both ways. The spring does go on both ways. It doesn't look like one end is smaller than the other end.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:54 AM

Did you get the Boss bolt and springs, or just the spring kit? Because the spring kit probably came out after the Boss V2 bolts with springs. Quick test, just swap the spring around on your bolt and see.

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