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#1 SplatSplatOrange

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 05:21 PM

I recently purchase a GoG Extcy and used it for a day and i noticed that it was leaking air through the barrel so i took it apart and inspected the orings and replaced one... but when i screw in my tank it continues to leak so i rechecked all my bolt orings and i didnt notice any problems is their a another place when i could be leaking from?

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:30 PM

Is the bolt in the forward (firing) or rear position when leaking?

Stick your finger in the breech with the barrel off. Try plugging the face of the bolt with your finger. Is the air coming from the inside or around the outside of the bolt?

The answer to these questions will narrow down to the source of the problem.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 03:45 PM

Is the bolt in the forward (firing) or rear position when leaking?

Stick your finger in the breech with the barrel off. Try plugging the face of the bolt with your finger. Is the air coming from the inside or around the outside of the bolt?

The answer to these questions will narrow down to the source of the problem.

I cant really feel any air flowing but my tank is low on air like 500 psi and the bolt is in rear position
p.s the noise is more of a quite whistling sound...
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:24 PM

Get the tank aired up again. Remove the grip frame and air her up again once you have a tank over 1000psi.


Feel around until you find the EXACT source of the leak. Take a pic, or describe EXACTLY where its coming from. Then I can help you. Find the leak, find the problem.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 03:50 PM

Question should be no noise whatsoever coming from my gun? could this problem be my paranoia?
And i screwed in a old Co2 tank and couldn't find the leak... but i can still hear it...
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:31 PM

Here's pics of my bolt
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:02 PM

Here's pics of my bolt


Pictures are to big to upload....
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:20 AM

You have to find the source of the leak to diagnose the problem. No way around it. Dunk the marker in a sink full of water. No battery attached and grip frame off. You will see bubbles from where the leak is coming from.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:57 PM

ok
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:04 PM

Also thanks for all the help!! without your guidance i would be regreting my decision to by this gun!
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:12 PM

Before i start dunking my gun could i just send my gun to gog i think my warranty is still valid?
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:25 PM

I dunked my gun and the air was coming from the back screw that attaches the board to the gun near the bolt end
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

Perfect!

Unscrew the board and take a look at that rear banjo (back screw) oring. It may be stretched too much, damaged or have a foriegn object in it.

It may be its not screwed in tight enough (DONT OVETIGHTEN, just past snug, dont crank the thing or you will strip the threads)

If you have another o-ring (may be in your kit) I would try that first. Make sure the o-ring is in its groove. Sometimes it may sneak out of it and when it gets tightened, it gets pinched and stretched causing leaks.


If i remember correctly its 006 size o-ring. 90 durometer is best, but a 70 will do fine.


Congrats!! You found the problem!


P.S. you can send her to gog, but its not worth it. Shipping alone will dwarf the cost of a 10 cent o-ring needed to fix this.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:01 PM

Perfect!

Unscrew the board and take a look at that rear banjo (back screw) oring. It may be stretched too much, damaged or have a foriegn object in it.

It may be its not screwed in tight enough (DONT OVETIGHTEN, just past snug, dont crank the thing or you will strip the threads)

If you have another o-ring (may be in your kit) I would try that first. Make sure the o-ring is in its groove. Sometimes it may sneak out of it and when it gets tightened, it gets pinched and stretched causing leaks.


If i remember correctly its 006 size o-ring. 90 durometer is best, but a 70 will do fine.


Congrats!! You found the problem!


P.S. you can send her to gog, but its not worth it. Shipping alone will dwarf the cost of a 10 cent o-ring needed to fix this.

Thanks so much!!!
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:37 PM

One last question im gonna get a QEv can i steal the oring of the other side instead of buying a new set?
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:43 PM

If she fits, absolutely. Although, its always a good idea to have a spare lying around.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:52 PM

If she fits, absolutely. Although, its always a good idea to have a spare lying around.


AGGGHHHH!!!!!!
FML
ITS STILL LEAKING!!!!
could it be a breech oring?
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:13 PM

If it's a breech oring it will be leaking out of the bolt front/barrel. Dunk in water again.

Make sure your not cross threading. And the banjo is in straight.

If you have blue locktight, use that. Looks like that o ring is Not sealing properly. The locktight will seal that up good. But dunk again to confirm.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:04 PM

If it's a breech oring it will be leaking out of the bolt front/barrel. Dunk in water again.

Make sure your not cross threading. And the banjo is in straight.

If you have blue locktight, use that. Looks like that o ring is Not sealing properly. The locktight will seal that up good. But dunk again to confirm.


Ok now its leaking out of the screw that attaches the breech with the grip frame..
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:42 AM

So out the bolt then? That's the only way air can come out of that hole. Unless it's the rear hole the gtipframe attached to

If it is coming out of the bolt try plugging your finger on the bolt face. See if the leak is coming from inside or around the outside of the bolt. If it's coming from the inside pressure will build up behind your finger that you will feel. The water trick might show you too.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:42 PM

okay dunked it again and noticed that when i took it out and little water bubbles were forming in the center of the bolt where the holes are
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:18 PM

I think i fixed it i really lubed my bolt stop and the noise went away! thanks for all the help
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:24 PM

I think i fixed it i really lubed my bolt stop and the noise went away! thanks for all the help


nevermind still leaking
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:44 AM

Replace the bolt stop o-ring and the bolt sail oring. Those are the two that will be giving you the problems. Make sure they are 70 durometer. Use ones supplied in the kit if possible.

Replace the inner bolt stop o-ring first with a 14/70 o-ring. See if that works. If not, then replace the bolt sail with an M2x16mm /70 durometer oring. Be careful not to scratch the parts when removing the o-rings, as it may cause irreversable leaking.

The o-rings should not be wearing out that quick. Make sure the bolt is free of scratches or deep gouges. That can be the source of the leak, also make sure the bolt is free of dirt and grime.

Make sure you are lubing with enough lube to prevent this from happening again:
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:35 PM

Replace the bolt stop o-ring and the bolt sail oring. Those are the two that will be giving you the problems. Make sure they are 70 durometer. Use ones supplied in the kit if possible.

Replace the inner bolt stop o-ring first with a 14/70 o-ring. See if that works. If not, then replace the bolt sail with an M2x16mm /70 durometer oring. Be careful not to scratch the parts when removing the o-rings, as it may cause irreversable leaking.

The o-rings should not be wearing out that quick. Make sure the bolt is free of scratches or deep gouges. That can be the source of the leak, also make sure the bolt is free of dirt and grime.

Make sure you are lubing with enough lube to prevent this from happening again:
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I swaped the new oring that i replaced the old one with the original and it works...Thanks again



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