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#1 BraiNfreeZe

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:46 PM

Okay so if you guys have heard my rencent rant in the paintball chatter section entitled "Calling all ballers", then you know the backround. If not please read it for further understanding....I went today to pick up my tank today so I could take it to Tiki to get hydro'd and today I walked in and asked for it and he said he sent it out a week ago and that he'd have it in two days. Mind you he told me he didn't want to deal with it two days ago. So I simply asked if he had a tank
i could trade for, and so for $55 he sold me a used Evil 68/5000. Feels light, and it works beautifully. I thought I got a good deal right? Well once I got home upon further inspection there is a white chip in the finish. It is smooth, and a little rough. It was hydro'd in june of last year, and it was aired up and I just tryed it out at home and it worked fine. My question for 'yall is if I could just cover it with some hockey tape, or do I need to pay more to get it fixed, or take it back? ( I really don't want to have it go back there...) Here are the pic's:

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:52 PM

Hard to tell from the pic, how deep is the damage? Are there fibers sticking out anywhere?
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:53 PM

It's an Evil Scion if that helps any?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

There are extremely tiny thin hair line fiber's but only a few.I called the owner and he said it should be safe to use...

Edited by BraiNfreeZe, 21 April 2013 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:01 PM

The chip appears to only be a mm or less deep

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:03 PM

It's probably ok. If it were mine, I'd mix up some fiberglass resin just to seal in the loose fibers, but I think clear nail polish might do in a pinch.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:04 PM

There are extremely tiny thin hair line fiber's but only a few.I called the owner and he said it should be safe to use...

Would you be able to hydro it with exposed fibers down the line? In most cases of inspection damage is a no go on approval, I'm not sure about hydro though.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:09 PM

My tank has the following warning on it:

Warning: Do not fill if cylinder has visual damage, unraveling or charring of composite fiber.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

So what should I do? Fill it with clear nail polish?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:19 PM

My tank has the following warning on it:

Warning: Do not fill if cylinder has visual damage, unraveling or charring of composite fiber.

Dunno about you but from what I've seen most fill stations don't care enough to look closely past asking themselves "is it in hydro?" And "does it look like it will be guaranteed to explode if I begin this filling process?" However like I was saying, a person performing a hydro will probably pay closer attention to it. Definitely would be smart to follow the advice of silentbutdeadly and get some fiberglass resin to put over the damage if it will be costly/ a pain in the ass to return the tank for one in good condition.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:26 PM

Would Bondo work? Or just clear nail polish?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:44 PM

Do not fix it, that should be done by a hydro tester.

As long as the fibers are not damaged the tank is safe to use. If it is smooth in that area it should be fine. If there is fiber damaged it will need to be inspected and repaired if needed.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

Do not fix it, that should be done by a hydro tester.

As long as the fibers are not damaged the tank is safe to use. If it is smooth in that area it should be fine. If there is fiber damaged it will need to be inspected and repaired if needed.


The fibers aren't damaged really stuck a few poking out......I think I'm just going to take it back....

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:20 PM

Well Jokes on us guys......Went to the shop today and the guy said that the mid 2000 model PMI tanks use an anti-chip coating in the outer get before most companies actually used gel so it's a bit thicker and that the white stuff is basically paper and told me that he had it hydro'd last year and it was just sitting on the shelf. Also it's rated for 50000 psi....I guess it's a pretty good deal for $55 so I think I'm just gonna fill the hole with some clear nail polish, and hockey tape that SOB!

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:18 PM

keep in mind this dude has jammed you up before, is 55.00 worth my safety.. HELL NO!! i don't want you to get hurt in anyway shape or form. the company i work for strives for perfection when it comes to safety and if there's any comprimise in the intregrity of the tank i wouldn't use it. it's just not worth it imo. if you choose to use it PLEASE have it prof fixed and certified for your own benefit.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:37 PM

It was just hydro tested not even a year ago....the chip isn't even a mm deep....it really does appear to be a paper like material under the gel coating...he even offered me my money back and to go and play with this one until I picked my tank up this weekend.....he seemed very knowledgeable and mike knows him and trusts him.....he may be a jerk but he knows what he's talking about...

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

if your confident in your decision and the integrity of the tank then you should be fine.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 07:24 AM

That's what I'm thinking....at first of was a little worried but upon further inspection the chip is not deep enough to even expose the fibers, as they are buried underneath black gel, paper chip board material, epoxy, woven carbon fibers, and aluminum. The ninja rep said that it is only compromised if the fibers are exposed which their not. So I think we're good.....if it's rated for 5000 psi then I doubt a small chip will harm it.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:15 AM

So what should I do? Fill it with clear nail polish?



Take it back to him and get a refund. It won't pass another hydo with that damage.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:00 AM

No it passed already recently with that damage. he said someone traded it in and he got it in hydro. The hydro sticker isn't even a year old. And it isn't the fibers that are exposed just another layer, and ninja said it was safe as long as the fibers weren't exposed and their not. It's purely just cosmetic.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:11 AM

It seems like what the shop owner said was right, and the coating is compatible to the nitro duck tuff skin. Read this http://www.automags....ion-tank-unsafe

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 07:47 PM

I would just cover it with like clear nail polish and put some sort of filler in the gap. Than put a tank cover over it and you should be good. Also I would still take it to a scuba shop, or fire station so they can check it out. Don't get it retested though just ask if they would be able to deem it safe, you could also send it to a place where they can rewrap it
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:49 PM

Yeah that's what of ended up doing...I coated the gap with clear nail polish and then covered the entire bottom with hockey tape for a gripped like cover, and then ran two stands up the side where the blemish was and then I put another single layer on the top just to keep it in place. But I left some areas open just so they can see the hydro sticker and the factory info....it's not worth it to get it rewrapped as it only affects the outer coating so I just decided to seal it and cover it.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:55 PM

Here's a pic of the final outcome... m1363.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/zrokrw/2013-04-22171037_zps09e18588.jpg.html?newest=1

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