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#1 Bigman3

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:21 PM

I was looking at the tacamo conversion kits because I really wanted to experience a mag fed gun. However, I've heard they have some problems and was looking for a cheaper alternative. (the conversion kits are like $120 for a gun that cost $130)

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:32 PM

The cheapest magfed gun that I can think of off the top of my head is the Spyder MRX, at about $170

 

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:57 PM

Spyders hammer 7

 


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:11 PM

That's a pump though, and based on what the OP was looking for probably not what he wants.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:47 PM

BT SA-17?

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Based on what I've seen they feed more reliably than the Kingman magazine-fed guns.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:50 PM

The SA-17 isn't mag fed.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:56 PM

Yes it is.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:57 PM

It uses a spring loaded top tube, not a magazine.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:01 PM

A spring-loaded tube is a magazine.

Just because it's not perpindicular to the barrel doesn't mean it's not a magazine.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:03 PM

Semantics. The point is that "mag fed" has a different meaning in paintball, especially with the milsim aspect that's usually attached. It's probably not what the OP's looking for given his post.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:01 PM

Semantics. The point is that "mag fed" has a different meaning in paintball, especially with the milsim aspect that's usually attached. It's probably not what the OP's looking for given his post.

 

So if "mag fed" doesn't mean "fed by a magazine" to you, what does it mean?



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:17 PM

Did you not just see me justify that within the context of paintball and the popularity of milsim mag-fed markers? All my comments in this thread have been by that definition, as it is the most applicable to the situation. You can argue about the underlying terms all you want, but it doesn't change the scope of the OP's question.

 

Also, from what I'm seeing, magazine doesn't have to refer just to a container with a spring. I'm also not seeing universal descriptions of magazines as needing springs. If we want to get really technical about the definitions, then everyone's loaders and pods would also be considered magazines, as they are meant to load and store large amounts of ammunition.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:40 PM

Did you not just see me justify that within the context of paintball and the popularity of milsim mag-fed markers? All my comments in this thread have been by that definition, as it is the most applicable to the situation. You can argue about the underlying terms all you want, but it doesn't change the scope of the OP's question.

 

 

Please explain to me how a magazine-fed paintball marker like the SA-17 does not qualify as a magazine-fed paintball marker.

I have no idea where you are getting your definition as it makes no sense at all.
 



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:50 PM

I think hes looking for a actually mag fed gun thats loaded by mags/clips. instead of a spring fed magazine from the top. but yes a SA-17 is technically a magazine fed marker... 



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:54 PM

 

Did you not just see me justify that within the context of paintball and the popularity of milsim mag-fed markers? All my comments in this thread have been by that definition, as it is the most applicable to the situation. You can argue about the underlying terms all you want, but it doesn't change the scope of the OP's question.

 

 

Please explain to me how a magazine-fed paintball marker like the SA-17 does not qualify as a magazine-fed paintball marker.

I have no idea where you are getting your definition as it makes no sense at all.

 

I'm trying to show that the definition of a magazine is too broad for applications in paintball, so it's beneficial to look at how the majority of paintballers view "mag-fed" paintball, as well as the context of the post. While the SA-17 fits the technical definitions of magazine fed, it does not meet the majority concept of mag-fed in paintball, or the spirit of the question.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:34 PM

I have to agree with wookie here. Is a phantom VSC considered mag fed? Carter Desert Duck? Grey Ghost? Empire sniper?


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:04 PM

Not really. We could say stock class.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:01 AM

In my opinion, the SA-17 and markers like that are tube-fed, not magazine fed. Magazine fed markers have a box magazine.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:35 PM

Not really. We could say stock class.

Right. The sa 17 has basically a stock class feed with a spring mod. I dont think that counts as magfed


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:58 PM

In my opinion, the SA-17 and markers like that are tube-fed, not magazine fed. Magazine fed markers have a box magazine.

 

And what's in these "box magazines?"

Tubes with springs in them.

 

 

Not really. We could say stock class.

Right. The sa 17 has basically a stock class feed with a spring mod. I dont think that counts as magfed

 

 

There's nothing stock class about the SA-17.



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:33 PM

You have fun arguing dont you? His goal is mag fed, and we all know what he means by that. It's like saying someone is looking for a bolt action paintball marker for the sake of using one and the feel of one, and you just go out and say: "Why not get a pump? It's the same thing. Get a pump. Well technically it's the same thing. Quit being wrong technically it's the same thing, so screw your wants and get it because by definition it's the exact same thing. So just get a pump because your wants and desires are pointless, and I'm more right because what I said isn't the same thing, but in all technicality it is, so you shouldn't care because I don't care"
He wants mag fed like milsim mag fed, so lets just recommend the best there is, instead of getting something that's "close enough-the same thing in your head" ok?

If it makes you any happier, we'll comply with your bothersome trivial points. I'll start. By definition, the SA-17 with the BT stick feed is technically mag fed, because it spring loads ammunition to the marker breach via limited capacity ammunition holder, that can be replaced by another when said first limited capacity ammunition holder runs out.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:57 PM

 

In my opinion, the SA-17 and markers like that are tube-fed, not magazine fed. Magazine fed markers have a box magazine.

 

And what's in these "box magazines?"

Tubes with springs in them.

 

 

Not really. We could say stock class.

Right. The sa 17 has basically a stock class feed with a spring mod. I dont think that counts as magfed

 

 

There's nothing stock class about the SA-17.

 

The feed tube. Tube feeds are tube feeds, and stock class uses tube feeds.


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