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Empire traccer vs azodin kaos pump

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#1 Bunkerpb



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:44 PM

I want to know witch one I should get the traccer or the kaos

#2 plan_b


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:07 PM

whats your current setup and playing style?

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:38 PM


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 12:04 AM

I'm gonna vote KP. It depends on what you want though

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 09:22 AM

Never should you ever buy a back bottle marker. So uncomfortable. I would know, I own one. Got a bucket changer on it to go around the issue.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:28 AM

There are plenty of comfortable back bottle markers. Mags', Sheridans, and Nelsons all have a nice feel to them. 


My vote goes to the Kaos, I dislike the Empire Trracer. Now if it was an original PMI Trracer I'd vote for that.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:49 PM

Kaos everytime. it shoots amazing and it is super upgradeable!

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 09:53 AM

Have owned both. The Trracer is a pretty good little gun and works well when set up for stock class play. But it's bolt is a little soft and if you play open class and shoot ALOT you will need to replace the bolt in 10 cases or so. That being said empires warranty is awesom so it likely only cost you time and an email to fix.

The Kaos is a great shooter very smooth and is one of the best entry level open class pump guns on the market. The Kaos reg leaves a bit to be desired so i replaced mine with a CP (kept leaking). It also does not have auto trigger witch does not make a big deal but is worth noting.
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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:55 AM

I love my Trracer. I have it set up with a bottom line ASA with a 13/3000 and the 10 round spring fed magazine. It's so much fun with that setup. Extremely light, great accuracy(due to the low profile 10 round feed) and it feels really good. It shoots great for the $80 I payed for it(used) and I just purchased the SS bolt since I'm loving it so much. You don't need to get the SS bolt but eventually your bolt might wear out but Kee will send you a new one. As for the back bottle mount "issue" just get a tennis ball, cut it in half and tape it to the back of your 13/3000 with some hockey tape. Feels comfortable from the stock back mount as well as with a bottomline.


Overall I think the Trracer looks great, performs great and for the money is extremely hard to beat. Good luck!

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