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#1 halofan

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 07:54 PM

My brother is looking into hoppers and he is stuck on two hoppers. He wants to get a dye rotor or the empire prophecy z2. Which one should he get. He uses a dp g5 if any of you were wondering.
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 08:49 PM

I'd get a rotor. Simple, easy to use, reliable.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:45 PM

Rotor, the z2 is a pain in the ass to disassemble and re assemble
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:42 PM

Both are great. Rotor is simpler for tear down.  Z2- for 95% of everything all you have to do is pull the nose cone.  Z2 has anti jam feature as well, also has a rip drive for in case he forgets the batteries.  You can find Z2's for 130 for white and camo colors if he is buying new.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:55 PM

Rotor, I hate the lid on the Z2.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 12:34 AM

Both are great. Rotor is simpler for tear down.  Z2- for 95% of everything all you have to do is pull the nose cone.  Z2 has anti jam feature as well, also has a rip drive for in case he forgets the batteries.  You can find Z2's for 130 for white and camo colors if he is buying new.


You forget that the wires are easy to pinch and not as battery efficent. I had a z2 just chilling on my workbench since it's not even a backup loader( even compared to a magna), ate all the batteries in 4 months, the last time I changed my Rotor battery after continuous use was about 7+ months.

Rotors simply beats out the z2, and don't even get started on cleaning out a z2 after getting shot through a speed feed
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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:22 PM

Thanks after reading your guys opinions he is going to get a rotor

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:48 PM

love my rotor, would always recommend it 



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 06:25 PM

I'm going to be the guy who says Z2. It's easy enough to take apart, but it's really light. Also, the antijam system works a bit better than the Rotor.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:21 PM

I'm going to be the guy who says Z2. It's easy enough to take apart, but it's really light. Also, the antijam system works a bit better than the Rotor.


I went through hell to take apart that darn z2, stupid thing won't click properly in place and shit.

Could have easily taken apart the rotor and reassembled it like at least 5 times over than having to deal with what I dealt with on the z2.

Honestly light weight, backed by kee and inexpensive are the ONLY things going for it
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:08 AM

The shell is pretty easy to take apart. It took me two pissed off tried before I got it every single time in less than 20 seconds. But I do agree past the shell the rotor takes it by a longshot.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:05 AM

 

Both are great. Rotor is simpler for tear down.  Z2- for 95% of everything all you have to do is pull the nose cone.  Z2 has anti jam feature as well, also has a rip drive for in case he forgets the batteries.  You can find Z2's for 130 for white and camo colors if he is buying new.


You forget that the wires are easy to pinch and not as battery efficent. I had a z2 just chilling on my workbench since it's not even a backup loader( even compared to a magna), ate all the batteries in 4 months, the last time I changed my Rotor battery after continuous use was about 7+ months.

Rotors simply beats out the z2, and don't even get started on cleaning out a z2 after getting shot through a speed feed

 

 

Wires are easy to pinch?  Not on a Prophecy.  The only wires are the battery wires and they aren't routed in such a way to get pinched between the side shells like on a HALO.  

 

You can tell the prophecy series was designed by engineers as it's over complicated and then some.  Trying to get both side shells on in a pinch for time will probably result in someone throwing it on the ground in frustration.

 

Again for 95% of any work on the prophecy you just pull the front cone.  Even if a ball breaks in your hopper you can just wipe it out.  No need for a full tear down.  Still not as easy as the rotor just slitting in two.

 

 

The rotor is  a simplified design, has better battery life and takes one less AA.  



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:29 AM


 

Both are great. Rotor is simpler for tear down.  Z2- for 95% of everything all you have to do is pull the nose cone.  Z2 has anti jam feature as well, also has a rip drive for in case he forgets the batteries.  You can find Z2's for 130 for white and camo colors if he is buying new.

You forget that the wires are easy to pinch and not as battery efficent. I had a z2 just chilling on my workbench since it's not even a backup loader( even compared to a magna), ate all the batteries in 4 months, the last time I changed my Rotor battery after continuous use was about 7+ months.

Rotors simply beats out the z2, and don't even get started on cleaning out a z2 after getting shot through a speed feed
 
 
Wires are easy to pinch?  Not on a Prophecy.  The only wires are the battery wires and they aren't routed in such a way to get pinched between the side shells like on a HALO.  
 
You can tell the prophecy series was designed by engineers as it's over complicated and then some.  Trying to get both side shells on in a pinch for time will probably result in someone throwing it on the ground in frustration.
 
Again for 95% of any work on the prophecy you just pull the front cone.  Even if a ball breaks in your hopper you can just wipe it out.  No need for a full tear down.  Still not as easy as the rotor just slitting in two.
 
 
The rotor is  a simplified design, has better battery life and takes one less AA.  

Hahaha, "designed by engineers is so true". My shop class teacher always said engineers should have to be mechamics first and then they maybe wouldnt design cars so impractical for maintenance.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:58 PM

There is something to be said for simplicity in design.  The Prophecy seems to a "next gen" HALO to me.  When you keep adding crap on to crap and tweaking this and that you end up with a Z2.  Great loader and all, just overly complicated, seems like it was engineered for engineers.

 

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Glad the OP's brother picked one out.  Both are great.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 12:23 AM

When I was putting the floor on t it started getting messy and the front nose. No wonder no one wants a z2, even at $75 with a speed feed. I guess my market knows best when it comes to z2, there is basically 0 z2 here
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:37 AM

But is the halo design really crap with added crap?


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:43 PM

Best halo design? Magna clutch. 9/10 would use
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:40 AM

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