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#1 datballer



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:49 PM

I'm in the market for a new hopper and I'm not looking for something used. 


I currently have an invert halo 2 which is too heavy and bulky, and it's too much work to take it apart to clean.


I have been debating on a vmax or vmax 2, because they are lightweight, low profile and cheap. 


people say they are crap, but what I really need is something that can feed paint in bursts, since i am really not the kind of player who shoots fast constantly. 


I'm also thinking about getting a z2 because it is low profile and lightweight, but I think it is a little expensive. 


ANSgear has them for about 130, so would this be my best bet? 


ANSgear also has the old Pinokios but some people say that even without the nose, it is still too bulky. 


I don't care about how well you can program the board, i just need a cheap hopper that is super lightweight and can hold up with PSP. 


Whatever you got helps

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 01:00 PM

Used Rotor

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 01:25 PM

Your Invert Halo Too should be fine performance wise, but if you want to upgrade I would say to get a super loader, and since you're looking for a lightweight and low profile hopper I would say to go with the Pinokio Speed as it's the lightest and has the lowest profile of the super loaders (profile may come down to preference). Here is a comparison between the superloaders:



Dye Rotor vs Virtue Spire vs Empire Prophecy Z2 vs Pinokio vs Pinokio Speed



Pinokio Speed = Rotor = Spire > Prophecy > Pinokio

  • As long as you don't smash your loader with a hammer, try to melt it with a blow torch, or play paintball underwater they will all be plenty durable
  • Though if your abusive on your loader you may want to avoid the Pinokio as I've heard the feednecks may snap after a lot of heavy use due to the poly-carbonate shell
  • Though I believe the Pinokio Speed solves this problem with its durable nylon shell like all the other loaders


Pinokio Speed = Rotor = Spire = Prophecy > Pinokio

  • This may come down to personal preference, though most people like shorter loaders


Pinokio > Spire > Rotor = Prophecy = Pinokio Speed

  • This is with stock nose cone, as for Rotor, Prophecy and Pinokio Speed, the capacity is so close it's hard to tell which one is larger


Rotor > Pinokio Speed > Prophecy > Pinokio > Spire

  • All these loaders will feed more than 20 bps, and you shouldn't need more than that unless you want to waste a lot of money on paint


Spire = Rotor > Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Prophecy

  • All these loaders are pretty easy to clean and maintain except the Prophecy, as it has the most complicated design
  • The Pinokio and the Pinokio Speed are technically the easiest to maintain since you shouldn't have to unscrew the body at all to clean it, just pop off the top and wipe and your good to go
  • Since the Pinokio and Pinokio Speed aren't completely tool less the Spire and Rotor have the advantage


Battery Efficiency:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Rotor > Spire > Prophecy

  • All these loaders will get at least 10 cases in new batteries, but in case you don't change your batteries much, it's something to consider
  • The Pinokio and Pinokio Speed use two 9 volt batteries
  • The Prophecy uses 4 AA and the Spire and Rotor use 3 AA
  • While the batteries in the Pinokio's last about twice as long as the others the batteries are twice as expensive


Pinokio Speed = Pinokio = Spire > Prophecy > Rotor

  • The Pinokio, Pinokio Speed and Spire won't really jam, the Prophecy has an automatic anti-jam and a rip drive, and the Rotor has an anti-jam center arm


Paint Gentleness:
Spire > Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Prophecy > Rotor

  • The Spire, Pinokio, and Pinokio Speed will both be really gentle on paint, though the spire has soft paddles
  • None of them should break paint regularly, though the rotor tends to be the hardest on paint


Feeding The Last Paintballs:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Prophecy > Rotor > Spire

  • All of these loaders will feed the last paintballs, though you may have to shake the loaders


Hopper Opening:
Spire = Prophecy > Rotor = Pinokio = Pinokio Speed

  • Rated on how wide the opening to pour paint in is, though all the hoppers are plenty wide enough, but it's something to consider


Pinokio > Spire > Rotor > Prophecy = Pinokio Speed

  • This allows you to know when your paint is running out
  • The Spire comes with a window, but the Pinokio's transparency is determined by the color you choose, I would suggest you choose the smoke color
  • This Rotor also has a window, but it's very small
  • The Pinokio Speed and Prophecy only have the lid to see the paint


Pinokio Speed = Pinokio = Spire = Prophecy > Rotor

  • The only loader that should have problems with reballs is the Rotor, as it specifically states in the manual not to use reballs


Paddle Wear:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio = Rotor = Prophecy > Spire

  • Only the Spire should have problems with paddle wear because it uses soft paddles, so they might break over time, though Virtue should cover the repairs



Pinokio Speed > Pinokio > Spire > Prophecy > Rotor

  • The Pinokio Speed being the lightest and the Rotor being the heaviest (all without paintballs and with batteries)
  • They are all really light, they range from 15 ounces to 1 pound 6 ounces

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 01:34 PM

Thanks! but I think i'm going with the Prophecy.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 01:45 PM

That's Great, none of the hoppers are really best, it all comes down to preference, best of luck with the Prophecy.

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