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#1 The Recballer

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:47 PM

Which companies involve Americans in their products?

 

Design (Companies that design their products in the United States):

Ninja Paintball

Dye

Proto

GoG

Bob Long

DLX

 

Manufacture (Companies that manufacture their products in the US):

Ninja Paintball

GoG

Bob Long

DLX

 

Assemble (Companies that assemble their products in the US):

Ninja Paintball

GoG

Bob Long

DLX

 

 

Half US/Half foreign:

Dye

Proto

 

 

Can you guys help me fill this out?


Edited by The Recballer, 11 February 2014 - 07:45 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:52 PM

Is this something you're trying to use to help decide on whether or not you will purchase from them? If so, I believe Valken just announced they will start producing paintballs in the US, and Dye/Proto's R&D is US based. Smart Parts WAS US based, but I'm not sure of GoG (SP reincarnated) is US based.

 

That being said, I disagree wholeheartedly with any "Buy American" mentality, as it is damaging long-term to United States businesses. Positive competition is good, and telling US companies like Chrysler "I know you have an inferior product, but it's OK since you build in the US" is the wrong message to help our companies compete internationally.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 04:56 PM

No, that's not it.

 

In all honesty I just was curious.

 

And (warning opinion ahead) my personal opinion I think that for a "national team" (in all sports, not only paintball) teams should be required to use equipment that had some part of the process in their own country.

 

So, for instance soccer, Americans would have to use Nike, but countries that helped make the nike products would also be able to wear nike. (China, Italy). Germans would have to use Adidas and so on.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:23 PM

Is this something you're trying to use to help decide on whether or not you will purchase from them? If so, I believe Valken just announced they will start producing paintballs in the US, and Dye/Proto's R&D is US based. Smart Parts WAS US based, but I'm not sure of GoG (SP reincarnated) is US based.

 

That being said, I disagree wholeheartedly with any "Buy American" mentality, as it is damaging long-term to United States businesses. Positive competition is good, and telling US companies like Chrysler "I know you have an inferior product, but it's OK since you build in the US" is the wrong message to help our companies compete internationally.

GoG, to the best of my knowledge, is based out of the same factory that previously housed Smart Parts. I also believe Bob Long is based in the US.

 

Chrysler is superior.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 06:26 PM

Chrysler is superior.

To what?


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:05 PM

 

Chrysler is superior.

To what?

 

Any other American manufacturer.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:35 PM

DLX is American based and the Luxe is made in the US as well. (Gog really covers this as well since theyre both the reincarnation of Smart Parts)

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:05 PM

AGD is American, I'm pretty sure they still make parts too.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:10 PM

I am not sure this is relevant but I was just at the Gog website and noticed that on the contact page, there were three addresses, the second and third were the European and United States distributors ("Smart Parts LTD" and "GOG Paintball USA"). However, the first address (not labelled as a distributor and presumably the corporate headquarters, given its place in the list) was "GOG Paintball SA", in Costa Rica.

 

Unless I am missing something, this implies that Gog is now headquartered in Costa Rica?


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:49 PM

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:00 PM

CCM manufactures in the US.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:08 PM

i doubt gog is made in america


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:37 PM

Empire is top right? And HK.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:17 PM

Crossfire designs, manufactures and assembles their tanks and regs in Michigan. Also I think they have some of the nicest employees in the sport, but that's not what you asked for.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:00 AM

Empire is top right? And HK.

Empire makes pretty much all of their stuff in Taiwan and other countries

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:03 AM

i doubt gog is made in america

I thought Smart Parts made all of their stuff in-house, so why wouldn't GoG?



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:20 AM

i doubt gog is made in america

I thought Smart Parts made all of their stuff in-house, so why wouldn't GoG?


Cost.

I don't have a link to support it, but I remember when the eNMEy came out, there was a long thread about this either on PBN or MCB, and one of the dealers there said that the parts were manufactured in Asia and assembled in the US.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:44 AM

 

i doubt gog is made in america

I thought Smart Parts made all of their stuff in-house, so why wouldn't GoG?

 

 

because making everything in the USA is what killed SP.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 11:04 AM

GoG & DLX make everything in the USA, basically like Bob Long does. I talked to them during the millennium series last year and it made me like them even more. Smart Parts failed for many reasons, but not because they manufactured their goods in the USA. 


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 01:21 PM

I thought Lawyer fees were one of the big costs that forced smart parts under. Perhaps that was just wishful thinking.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 01:48 PM

I thought the story was that Smart Parts had a big note with PNC Bank, who called it. They couldn't pay it, and declared bankruptcy. Also, for anyone thinking SP was making everything stateside, you might want to take a look at page 4 of their original Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing (they eventually switched to a Chapter 7 dissolution), where the largest unsecured debt is listed by Smart Parts as more than a million bucks owed to "Dong Feng & P Corp/Shanghai Int'l Trading" of Ningbo, China.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 03:05 PM

the banknote was on there huge CNC machining facilities.

dye outsourced there production about 4 years ago, i know that for sure.


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And yes, Gordon is the sexiest manifestation of "to the front."


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 10:53 PM

Doesn't anyone remember when all if SP's mills and other machines came up for sale a few years ago? All of GOG's guns are made in Taiwan.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 11:53 PM

Yeah the Luxe being US made doesnt mean the guns that are less than 1/10-1/5 the price are...




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