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#1 meh

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:57 AM

Selling my Invert Too soon, it was just too bulky for me. I was constantly getting hit in the loader (which is also my fault for sticking out too much i know) but anyway..... im thinking a prophecy mainly because of its price (the camo is 129 on ans) but im also caught by the new pinokio speed... So what do you guys think? Have fun this weekend whoever is gonna paintball!


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:16 AM

Buy a used Rotor and call it day
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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:39 AM

No thanks never liked the rotor.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:02 AM

I would go with the Pinokio Speed, as it has Pinokio Reliability with Rotor durability, I can also post a full comparison of the super loaders if you want, just let me know.



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 10:54 AM

you should try the spire.


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 11:10 AM

No thanks never liked the rotor.


Wait until you pour broken paint by accident into either a pinokio or z2. You will for sure have lots of fun. Same goes with being shot in the speedfeed
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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:34 PM

 

No thanks never liked the rotor.


Wait until you pour broken paint by accident into either a pinokio or z2. You will for sure have lots of fun. Same goes with being shot in the speedfeed

 

You mean cleaning it? Well ya the rotor is easier to clean but i dont use top quality paint, and i heard the rotor jams often. Thanks for the input though!

 

I would go with the Pinokio Speed, as it has Pinokio Reliability with Rotor durability, I can also post a full comparison of the super loaders if you want, just let me know.

Yea that would be awesome!


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:54 PM

Dye Rotor vs Virtue Spire vs Empire Prophecy Z2 vs Pinokio vs Pinokio Speed

 

 

Durability:
Pinokio Speed = Rotor = Spire > Prophecy > Pinokio

  • As long as you don't smash your loader with a hammer, try to melt it with a blow torch, or play paintball underwater they will all be plenty durable
  • Though if you're abusive on your loader you may want to avoid the Pinokio as the feednecks may snap after a lot of heavy use due to the poly-carbonate shell
  • Though I believe the Pinokio Speed solves this problem with its durable nylon shell like all the other loaders

 

Profile:
Pinokio Speed = Rotor = Spire = Prophecy > Pinokio

  • This may come down to personal preference, though most people like shorter loaders

 

Capacity:
Pinokio > Spire > Rotor = Prophecy = Pinokio Speed

  • This is with stock nose cone, as for Rotor, Prophecy and Pinokio Speed, the capacity is so close it's hard to tell which one is larger

 

Feedrate:
Rotor > Pinokio Speed > Prophecy > Pinokio > Spire

  • All these loaders will feed more than 20 bps, and you shouldn't need more than that unless you want to waste a lot of money on paint

 

Maintenance:
Spire = Rotor > Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Prophecy

  • All these loaders are pretty easy to clean and maintain
  • While the Prophecy is still very easy to maintain, it has the most complicated design, so it will be the most difficult to maintain out of the group
  • The Pinokio and the Pinokio Speed are technically the easiest to maintain since you shouldn't have to unscrew the body at all to clean it, just pop off the top and wipe and your good to go
  • Since the Pinokio and Pinokio Speed aren't completely tool less the Spire and Rotor have the advantage

 

Battery Efficiency:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Rotor > Spire > Prophecy

  • All these loaders will get at least 10 cases in new batteries, but in case you don't change your batteries much, it's something to consider
  • The Pinokio and Pinokio Speed use two 9 volt batteries
  • The Prophecy uses 4 AA and the Spire and Rotor use 3 AA
  • The batteries in the Pinokio's last about twice as long as the others, but the batteries are twice as expensive

 

Jamming:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio = Spire > Prophecy > Rotor

  • The Pinokio, Pinokio Speed and Spire won't really jam, the Prophecy has an automatic anti-jam and a rip drive, and the Rotor has an anti-jam center arm

 

Paint Gentleness:
Spire > Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Prophecy > Rotor

  • The Spire, Pinokio, and Pinokio Speed will both be really gentle on paint, though the spire has soft paddles
  • None of them should break paint regularly, though the rotor tends to be the hardest on paint

 

Feeding The Last Paintballs:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio > Prophecy > Rotor > Spire

  • All of these loaders will feed the last paintballs, though you may have to shake the loaders

 

Hopper Opening:
Spire = Prophecy > Rotor = Pinokio = Pinokio Speed

  • Rated on how wide the opening to pour paint in is, though all the hoppers are plenty wide enough, but it's something to consider

 

Transparency:
Pinokio > Spire > Rotor > Prophecy = Pinokio Speed

  • This allows you to know when your paint is running out
  • The Spire comes with a window, but the Pinokio's transparency is determined by the color you choose, I would suggest you choose the smoke color
  • The Rotor also has a window, but it's very small
  • The Pinokio Speed and Prophecy only have the lid to see the paint

 

Reballs:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio = Spire = Prophecy > Rotor

  • The only loader that should have problems with reballs is the Rotor, as it specifically states in the manual not to use reballs

 

Paddle Wear:
Pinokio Speed = Pinokio = Rotor = Prophecy > Spire

  • Only the Spire should have problems with paddle wear because it uses soft paddles, so they might break over time, though Virtue should cover the repairs

 

Weight:

Pinokio Speed > Pinokio > Spire > Prophecy > Rotor

  • The Pinokio Speed being the lightest and the Rotor being the heaviest (all without paintballs and with batteries)
  • They are all really light, they range from 15 ounces to 1 pound 6 ounces

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 08:15 PM

just go with the pinokio speed

 

beats out the other $200+ hoppers in terms of weight, reliability, speed, size, and maintenance. It also is super durable, and is one of the cheapest hoppers on the market.

 

If you're on a budget, you might want to go with the old pinokio (on ANS for 100) or maybe a vmax or vmax2. They are also lightweight, but I really don't see a problem with them.



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 11:07 PM

Virtue spire or the spire 260

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 01:04 AM

The pinokio speed would probably be the best profile wise as it looks to be really small, thinking of getting this hopper for when I get a pump


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:59 AM

My Daughter has a Pinokio and I can't say enough good things about it.   I know at big games with the nose cone on it scares the crap out of people.  Which I find funny.     I also picked up a spire two weekends ago.  It is a great hopper as well.   If I was on a budget the Pinokio is were I would go every time though.   I could buy two of them for a Spire.  However I love the spire it shoots great and looks great as well.  But as near as I can tell all the super loaders do the job just fine.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 12:12 PM

I use crap paint all the time, same with a ton of people. It's usually fixed the pulling the fin if it jams at all.

I use heat or custom blend for most of my rec ball and practices
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 02:51 AM

I use crap paint all the time, same with a ton of people. It's usually fixed the pulling the fin if it jams at all.

I use heat or custom blend for most of my rec ball and practices

I have nothing against the rotor. It's just the price that kills me plus it's s little heavier than a speed.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:41 AM

I use crap paint all the time, same with a ton of people. It's usually fixed the pulling the fin if it jams at all.
I use heat or custom blend for most of my rec ball and practices

I have nothing against the rotor. It's just the price that kills me plus it's s little heavier than a speed.

$100 used, that's not a lot of money
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 03:21 PM

dude... z2: awesome. can't talk about the speed, sorry. never had a pinokio loader


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 04:13 PM

Uhh, my rotor never jams. I have used everything from reballs and low quality walmart paint. It has never stopped working for me. 



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:52 PM

Uhh, my rotor never jams. I have used everything from reballs and low quality walmart paint. It has never stopped working for me. 

 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:30 PM

i use my pinokio speed over my rotor. thing is light and sits forward a little more so i have way more vision with the marker up to my face



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:57 AM

Anything other than a pulse RDR.  I am still waiting for my POS to get back from GI failz so I can ditch it.  I don't know if I can consciously sell it to another human being without feeling guilty.  


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:28 PM

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