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#1 MrKnoxville917

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 07:13 PM

I'm wanting to upgrade my stock 12 inch axe barrel. Ans has a sale right now for the Stiffi one piece carbon barrel. 14, 16, and 18 inch. I been thinking about the 18 inch and was wondering if that was too long? It'll be for big woodsball fields mainly.

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 07:22 PM

if youre going to go longer than a 14, get a 2 piece. custom product 2 piece is a great barrel for the price. if youre looking for a bit higher end, shaft 4s or boomsticks will work

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 07:37 PM

if youre going to go longer than a 14, get a 2 piece. custom product 2 piece is a great barrel for the price. if youre looking for a bit higher end, shaft 4s or boomsticks will work

also consider lurker 2 piece and inception designs barrels


 


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 08:33 PM

18" is very cumbersome in my opinion, on a short speedball gun like the Axe it would be even worse. What do you want out of a new barrel? It's only going to change looks and maybe efficiency if you underbore it, accuracy, range and such are the same between all barrels.


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 08:33 PM

Theres really no reason to get over 16in and that is still pretty unwieldy. Ive never been a fan of Stiffi barrels personally as they are louder than aluminum in my experience and I dislike how they unbalance my setup.

I doubt theyre still selling them but you couldnt swab the old ones either. Probably can for any ANS is still selling though.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 07:18 AM

What about the CP dynasty 2 piece? Looks like a lot people like it. Also what size should I get? The stock axe is a .68. Should I stick with that?

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:13 AM

What about the CP dynasty 2 piece? Looks like a lot people like it. Also what size should I get? The stock axe is a .68. Should I stick with that?

Your best bet is probably going to ans gear, getting this barrel kit: http://www.ansgear.c...lkit4spyder.htm

 

Or this one: http://www.ansgear.c...lkit7spyder.htm

 

And then this adapter: http://www.ansgear.c...daptspy-ckr.htm

 

 

This will put your barrel to a total length of 15 inches.


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:41 PM

18" is very cumbersome in my opinion, on a short speedball gun like the Axe it would be even worse. What do you want out of a new barrel? It's only going to change looks and maybe efficiency if you underbore it, accuracy, range and such are the same between all barrels.


So length doesn't improve the accuracy at all?

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:55 PM

 

18" is very cumbersome in my opinion, on a short speedball gun like the Axe it would be even worse. What do you want out of a new barrel? It's only going to change looks and maybe efficiency if you underbore it, accuracy, range and such are the same between all barrels.


So length doesn't improve the accuracy at all?

 

Nopers. Literally the only things that affect accuracy in paintball are if your gun is clean and the quality of the paint. Only stuff you can do beyond that is buy First Strike's or aim better.


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:47 PM

What about the CP dynasty 2 piece? Looks like a lot people like it. Also what size should I get? The stock axe is a .68. Should I stick with that?

Your best bet is probably going to ans gear, getting this barrel kit: http://www.ansgear.c...lkit4spyder.htm
 
Or this one: http://www.ansgear.c...lkit7spyder.htm
 
And then this adapter: http://www.ansgear.c...daptspy-ckr.htm
 
 
This will put your barrel to a total length of 15 inches.
Well if it didn't effectively ruin the gains for getting barrel kit it would be a good option.

Personally I use and recommend the shaft4 and Stella barrels because... I like it?

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 09:31 AM

I'd recommend the Lurker Barrel if you're on a budget or just looking for a great barrel that is one of the best on the market.  You can pick one up here: http://www.lurkerpb....duct-p/2peb.htm

I'd also recommend checking out the Stella Barrel, I have heard it is quite good  :tup:


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 02:52 AM

Lurker or Disruptive, Stella if you really wanna splurge.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 08:41 AM

I think I'm gonna go with the stella with a freak back w/ two stainless steel inserts and one stella front. I'm not real crazy about the arrow head tip though. Might just play without a tip.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:18 PM

I think I'm gonna go with the stella with a freak back w/ two stainless steel inserts and one stella front. I'm not real crazy about the arrow head tip though. Might just play without a tip.


But you will wear out the front... Boss paintball has fronts with the threads lobbed off for about 13.5" worth of barrel, other tips coming soon.

And you are really not getting the full benefits of the Stella kit if you go the insert path, the insert path is mainly there to ease the freak users into the barrel system so they will sell the inserts and buy backs instead. Heck if you wanted inserts just buy a deadly winds barrel, much slicker
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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:21 AM

Most of the benefit you get from the stella kit comes from the bored fronts. It don't make a lot of sense to me to get a bunch of different backs when you can get one that accepts inserts and it's just as good.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:01 AM

5" control bore vs 8" control bore.... It only makes sense to get the real Stella backs for full benefits
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Posted 17 June 2014 - 01:18 PM

Most of the benefit you get from the stella kit comes from the bored fronts. It don't make a lot of sense to me to get a bunch of different backs when you can get one that accepts inserts and it's just as good.

Well, if you're saying that there's no point in the Stella backs, then I can argue that there's no point to the Stella fronts either. Just get a Freak front, or a Deadlywind barrel, it'll do the same thing. 



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Posted 17 June 2014 - 01:38 PM

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Freak doesn't make a different bore size for the front. That's all I was saying. That's really the only thing that separates the stella from a freak. Stella's have a ton of porting too but that's not my point.
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Now that is something I didn't think about. Might have to reconsider the freak back.
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Freak doesn't make a different bore size for the front. That's all I was saying. That's really the only thing that separates the stella from a freak. Stella's have a ton of porting too but that's not my point.
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Now that is something I didn't think about. Might have to reconsider the freak back.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:56 AM

Well the porting to me is one of the more important things that make a noticeable, if marginal, difference.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:08 PM

2 Piece dye carbon boomstick and your set to go.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 01:38 AM

2 Piece dye carbon boomstick and your set to go.


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:30 PM

just used the lurker v3 2 piece on my axe from using a sly dual carbon.  Lurker has a great sound signature.  Sturdy barrel.  Very quiet.  

 

You don't need some fancy barrel kit for your axe.  It's not a closed bolt autococker.  


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:47 AM

You don't need some fancy barrel kit for any marker^

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:05 AM

You don't need some fancy barrel kit for any marker^

 

Yeah but I can see why someone would want one on a closed bolt.  Not everyone wants to use tape to hold a ball in place.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:42 AM

You mean an underbored barrel? You can get an underbored barrel for cheap too. Doesn't have to be mega fancy.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 11:39 PM

If you really want a carbon fiber barrel, then I recommend the 14in. Deadlywind CF Fibur barrel. It's under $100, it's freak insert compatible, and it's so light that it can be lifted into the air with a balloon (see HustlePaintball's review on it). However, in my opinion the Custom Products 1-piece Classic barrels are the best for the money. They have really nice honing on the inside, great anodized exterior, a large amount of porting, and a wide variety of options from bore size to color, for all under $30.


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