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#1 ClayCallison

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 11:22 PM

So today I got a tippmann 98 custom, piranha gti, spyder compact, and viewloader triad with three masks including a vforce profiler and some accessories for $40.  All I wanted was the mask but the guy threw in all of that shit.  I plan on flipping it for money to get new pads.  Right now only the 98 custom works.  The triad is just gunked up from melted o rings and once cleaned will shoot fine.  The gti and the compact however leak like a motherfucker when you screw a tank on.  They leak out of the side of the grips when cocked and if you pull the trigger it leaks down the barrel.  I know it has something to do with the poppet valve but I don't know what.  I replaced the o rings on the rammers and that didn't hep one bit.  Anyone know what I can try?  I live about five minutes from wicked sports in Tampa so I can get parts but I don't want to eat up my profit either.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:33 AM

sounds like you need orings, orings for days.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:09 AM

Just a wild guess but if you think it's due to the poppet valve, why not change the orings on the poppet?
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:41 AM

Just a wild guess but if you think it's due to the poppet valve, why not change the orings on the poppet?

The clone GTI is a spool valve design, is it not? Replace the orings on the bolt and your leaking issues should go away, assuming the regulator is set properly.

 

If the spyder is leaking out the barrel, replace the poppet. You can even flip the old one around and see if it seals; sometimes you get lucky. 



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:15 AM

Just a wild guess but if you think it's due to the poppet valve, why not change the orings on the poppet?

The clone GTI is a spool valve design, is it not? Replace the orings on the bolt and your leaking issues should go away, assuming the regulator is set properly.
 
If the spyder is leaking out the barrel, replace the poppet. You can even flip the old one around and see if it seals; sometimes you get lucky.
I believe he has a piranha gti, not a clone gti
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:08 PM


Just a wild guess but if you think it's due to the poppet valve, why not change the orings on the poppet?

The clone GTI is a spool valve design, is it not? Replace the orings on the bolt and your leaking issues should go away, assuming the regulator is set properly.
 
If the spyder is leaking out the barrel, replace the poppet. You can even flip the old one around and see if it seals; sometimes you get lucky. 

Im so glad you read first sentence of the first post.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:42 PM

Yeah all of the orings were melted into a liquid so the first thing I did was replace them.  I still need a new kit to seal up the gti but the spyder is still a mess.  The poppet isn't damaged I just can't figure out what's wrong with it.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:02 PM

Yeah all of the orings were melted into a liquid so the first thing I did was replace them.  I still need a new kit to seal up the gti but the spyder is still a mess.  The poppet isn't damaged I just can't figure out what's wrong with it.

flip it around and see what happens. It may not appear damaged, but often it is not visible.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:21 PM

What do you mean by flip it around?  You cant do that it's not the same on both sides one side is a rod that fits into the hole and the other is a peg that the spring sits on.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:59 PM

What do you mean by flip it around?  You cant do that it's not the same on both sides one side is a rod that fits into the hole and the other is a peg that the spring sits on.

Ah. Some will work if you flip them around. Yours does not, it seems :(



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:12 PM

Check the poppet face for lube. If there is ANY lubricant on the poppet face, it will leak. If there are any orings on the poppet shaft, replace them.
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:57 PM

Check the poppet face for lube. If there is ANY lubricant on the poppet face, it will leak. If there are any orings on the poppet shaft, replace them.

Ok I'll try that.


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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:36 PM

Sounds like the cup seals are defective

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 12:19 AM

Sounds like the cup seals are defective

That's exactly what I've come down to as well.  I can't find any visible damage but I guess it's time to get a few new cup seals...


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Posted 15 October 2014 - 03:50 PM

Seems like a lot of these dudes don't know what they are talking bout.

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 07:28 PM

Seems like a lot of these dudes don't know what they are talking bout.

first of all, please don't necro. Second of all, what gives you the right to say these people don't know what they are taking about?

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 02:28 PM

Clay,

What kinda pads you looking for? Elbow or Knee or Both?
I just picked up some decent used Planet Eclipse bow and knee pads, they are just a little tight for me. I am looking to build up a new 98 woodsball gun. Just ordered a flatline the other day.
Hmmmmm?
What size do you wear?
Hit me up and let me know. Maybe we could trade out?
Hmmm?
 



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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:46 PM

*impersonating Andrew* BST out of BST, you're all banned. If you want to deal do it in the BST forum. That'so why it's there. Also the thread should be dead, let if die. If you want to talk to clay, pm him.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 09:46 AM

 

Seems like a lot of these dudes don't know what they are talking bout.

first of all, please don't necro. Second of all, what gives you the right to say these people don't know what they are taking about?

 

 

And coming from somebody with 1 post.....



 


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