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#1 Pvlacrosse14

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 07:31 AM

Hi guys, it's coming up to the point where I need to start figuring out what car I need to save for.

I snowboard, so I will be driving on snowy roads quite a bit.

I do not want a little car, I want a pickup truck/jeep/hummer type car. Something that will go through anything, while still being cool and aggressive.

I talked to my dad. Jeeps don't drop in value much, so they will be pretty expensive. Hummers (h3 or h3t only) are hard to find and therefore also expensive. Trucks on the other hand can be had for very cheap. Problem is, my dad said to stay away from anything over 8 years old when looking at trucks, because they have leaf suspensions which tend to sag and die a bit when they get older.

So what do you guys think? What's a nice first car to look at? What would you be looking at if you were in my position?

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 02:41 PM

the whole leaf suspension thing on trucks over 8 years old is a little irrational thinking in my opinion. I've driven trucks with leafs that are hitting 15 years old and they are fine for me. 

 

Jeep cherokees are great, and can be had cheap, and they are tanks. Not a truck, but it does the job. 

 

I drove a toyota 22re around till she died, because the previous owner sucked at putting the motor back together, and it was a great little truck, about 20 mpg, but power was lacking, you wouldn't want to pull anything. 

 

1st generation tacomas and t100s are great, I'd stay away from anything newer though, older yotas are beasts.

 

Right now i have a 1984 ranger v6, and it is my favorite truck i've had, parts are dirt cheap, and it always starts up. 

 

For larger trucks, chevy 1500s are nice, depending on the year, and can be gotten for really cheap. 

 

 

There's also the little geo tracker/suzuki samuri, they are a little 1.6 liter motor, get about 30mpg and will go through a swamp like a muskrat. My buddy has one that is lifted and has 33s, super sweet little rig, goes everywhere you'd want it, just don't put a fat kid in it. 



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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:15 PM

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:46 PM

Ya, I thought the same about leaf suspensions, I just don't want it to die out on me. I plan on getting something I will drive for a while without issue. Good gas consumption would be great, but anything over say 15 mpg city/17 mpg highway should be fine, as it will mainly be driving around town, which for me is like a diameter of maybe 3 miles.

I kind of like older tacomas, yet I also like the comfort a bigger truck gives you in terms of interior space, especially since I'm a pretty big guy
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Posted 02 September 2014 - 06:37 PM

I'm 6'1 and my yota fit me nicely, but some tacomas seem small with bucket seats. How old of a vehicle are you looking at getting? and whats your budget?



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:15 AM

Well age wise, nothing over ~10 years old. Price range? Probably around $6-8000
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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:55 PM

In Oregon half of the boarders driver subarus up to the mountain year round. Better mpg than most 4x4s that are around the same price

I personally like 4.0L Cherokees because they are practically wranglers without a removable top. You can do so much to those trucks, and the engine is bulletproof
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Posted 08 September 2014 - 02:00 AM

4.0 comanchees make me moist. 

 

But jeep did an awesome job with their inline 6 4.0s, they are tough as nails. My girlfriend's mom has one, has 208k on it, drove it about 90miles with the motor overheated and it still runs fine, for now atleast.

 

 

6-8k though, that's alot. Wranglers are sweet, but at that point, get whatever looks cool, aside from nissan :dodgy:


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 12:35 PM

Lol i'd rather have a bronco, you'll plow through pretty much anything. If you really want a jeep just look around man because when they're cheap, they're CHEAP. If you really want a pick up though, look at a 4 x 4 ranger super cab. Or even a RAM long bed, rams are cheaper than the f series and silverados and aren't at all bad.

 

A first car should be a cheap piece of shit so if you're thinking of Subaru's, think twice because you can get a DSM (eagles, eclipses, etc) for much less and get much more for your money. An AWD eagle talon tsi turboed will run you around 4-5 k and has parts readily available, not to mention the DSM community is very much alive. You also save on insurance because technically it is an domestic even though its pretty much a rebadged eclipse and..... BOOOOOOOOSSSSTTTTT

 

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:53 PM

Ya, I may just go with a Cherokee or jeep. I like both jeeps and trucks equally so I think I will go with one of them. At my price point, I'm kind of leaning towards a jeep simply because a newer style truck (less wear on that leaf suspension will run me more than I think I can afford, but I will look around and see
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 09:35 PM

But you get no respect points in a GC lol, has to be a wrangler or maybe a liberty haha, I actually drove a Cherokee today and it wasn't bad! Only thing that annoyed me was how much you had to sink the peddle in when reversing other than that it was nice :D
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 11:23 PM

You lose respect points in a liberty, they are almost as bad as (not exactly 4x4) 4x4 Patriots. They are shitty compact "SUV's" that are garbage. Any ZJ or WJ Grand, which i believe is 92-05 are the way to go. 06 and later have Active 4wd which is utter garbage because you can't lock it in high, only low

 

Watch out on older cherokees, because if I remember right they have leafs that are prone to sagging in the back. We haven't had a cherokee in for a few weeks so my memory is a tad fuzzy

 

Edit: Random note: I work at a Mopar Dealership and can tell you every issue to look out for with whatever setup you choose. Throw me a PM if you get a Jeep and I'll hook you up with some Mopar filters.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:19 PM

Liberty has some respect at least in and around where I live because of their performance in snow, it's just fantastic.

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 09:26 PM

I don't trust Cherokees. Pure and simple.
I live in South Dakota and about a dozen of the people I work with own Cherokees, none of whom hadn't had some sort of issue with them. One of my coworkers said that a Cherokee was designed when Chrysler said they had a ton of left-over parts and said just throw them all together.

I've owned a Subaru up here for almost 3 years now and have never had any issues whatsoever, including 3 successful ventures through blizzards to help pick up people who were stranded.

 

Don't get a Hummer. There's a certain stigma attached to them concerning your manhood, plus everybody thinks Hummer drivers are just douchebags in general.

 

As for old trucks, I haven't encountered many owners having leaf-spring problems up here even with trucks 20+ years-old. Maybe my experience is an anomaly, but that just doesn't sound like reason alone to throw out a good strong pick-up from the 70's-00's.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 09:30 PM

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Mostly because it implies that Pontiacs are actually on the road and not sitting in a repair shop or salvage yard.


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 09:38 AM

The only Pontiac's in the shop all the time are rebadged Chevy's. Pontiac is the best and always will be the best
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 12:55 AM

I don't trust Cherokees. Pure and simple.
I live in South Dakota and about a dozen of the people I work with own Cherokees, none of whom hadn't had some sort of issue with them. One of my coworkers said that a Cherokee was designed when Chrysler said they had a ton of left-over parts and said just throw them all together.

I've owned a Subaru up here for almost 3 years now and have never had any issues whatsoever, including 3 successful ventures through blizzards to help pick up people who were stranded.

 

Don't get a Hummer. There's a certain stigma attached to them concerning your manhood, plus everybody thinks Hummer drivers are just douchebags in general.

 

As for old trucks, I haven't encountered many owners having leaf-spring problems up here even with trucks 20+ years-old. Maybe my experience is an anomaly, but that just doesn't sound like reason alone to throw out a good strong pick-up from the 70's-00's.

All cars have issues, but try to kill a 4.0L cherokee. You'll have a hard time doing it


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 03:54 AM

Hi, Our first Car used to be an SUV type. Its a Toyota brand in color green. We had it for about 10 years already but we sold it because we only need a smaller one now since my daughter was given a car by their company. Our Toyota Revo is a very reliable make of a car and it has a very good performance:)



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 11:25 AM

 

I don't trust Cherokees. Pure and simple.
I live in South Dakota and about a dozen of the people I work with own Cherokees, none of whom hadn't had some sort of issue with them. One of my coworkers said that a Cherokee was designed when Chrysler said they had a ton of left-over parts and said just throw them all together.

I've owned a Subaru up here for almost 3 years now and have never had any issues whatsoever, including 3 successful ventures through blizzards to help pick up people who were stranded.

 

Don't get a Hummer. There's a certain stigma attached to them concerning your manhood, plus everybody thinks Hummer drivers are just douchebags in general.

 

As for old trucks, I haven't encountered many owners having leaf-spring problems up here even with trucks 20+ years-old. Maybe my experience is an anomaly, but that just doesn't sound like reason alone to throw out a good strong pick-up from the 70's-00's.

All cars have issues, but try to kill a 4.0L cherokee. You'll have a hard time doing it

 

Don't know if any of them were 4.0's, but if you see more than half a dozen Cherokees go down, you begin to notice some trends.


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 03:41 PM

Try to kill the slant 6 in the fury, that's a fucking engine right there


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 04:05 PM

Try to kill the slant 6 in the fury, that's a fucking engine right there

Slant 6's are indestructible, but it would be horrible in a fury, especially the older ones. Those cars are huge, anything less than a big block in those is just way too small.



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Posted 10 October 2014 - 12:08 AM

Are we talking 90s Cherokees or new 2014 Cherokees? Because the 2014s are pieces of shit


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Posted 10 October 2014 - 08:51 PM

Mid-2000's are the ones I'm talking about.


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Posted 10 October 2014 - 09:26 PM

 

Try to kill the slant 6 in the fury, that's a fucking engine right there

Slant 6's are indestructible, but it would be horrible in a fury, especially the older ones. Those cars are huge, anything less than a big block in those is just way too small.

 

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