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#1 Cheap-o

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:59 PM

Diet Soda is the worst thing you can do to your body. WHY?

It has a chemical in it called aspertame, it gives you the sugary taste without the sugar. but it is completely synthetic (not natural) - which means your body cannot digest it, as it has not encountered it and will not know what to do. The body's solution is to store it somewhere (most likely in the brain), which will cause a tumour.

It also causes that disease that makes you lose control of your extremities (tiberculosis?). My professor had a a friend whose grilfriend only drank diet soda, she was a fit, healthy, athletic young woman who was at the top of her health. Several years later though, she died of that same disease.

I hope this sheds some light on questions about this crap in a can.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 09:40 AM

Never knew that lucky i dont drink diet soda.
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Posted 05 April 2009 - 02:31 PM

My mom use to get sick to her stomach of diet lime coke and when she stopped drinking it she never got sick

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 03:29 PM

Diet Soda is the worst thing you can do to your body. WHY?

It has a chemical in it called aspertame, it gives you the sugary taste without the sugar. but it is completely synthetic (not natural) - which means your body cannot digest it, as it has not encountered it and will not know what to do. The body's solution is to store it somewhere (most likely in the brain), which will cause a tumour.

It also causes that disease that makes you lose control of your extremities (tiberculosis?). My professor had a a friend whose grilfriend only drank diet soda, she was a fit, healthy, athletic young woman who was at the top of her health. Several years later though, she died of that same disease.

I hope this sheds some light on questions about this crap in a can.

Check your damn facts before you go spouting off what some person told you to believe.

http://en.wikipedia....ame_controversy

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Of 67 scientists who responded to a 1987 questionnaire by the US GAO,[1]:16,76-81 12 had major concerns, 26 were somewhat concerned but generally confident in Aspartame safety, and 29 were very confident in Aspartame safety. Several scientists have recommended further research into postulated connections between aspartame and diseases such as brain tumors,[14] brain lesions, mental disorders,[15] and lymphoma.[16] These disease hypotheses, combined with allegations of conflicts of interest in the approval process—which were refuted by an official US governmental enquiry[6]—have been the focus of vocal activism and conspiracy theories regarding the possible risks of aspartame.

Several large scientific assessments of available research by expert panels have refuted the claims of negative health effects attributed to aspartame.[17] Food safety authorities worldwide have set acceptable daily intake (ADI) values for aspartame at 40 mg/kg of body weight based on a 1980 Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives recommendation.[8] JECFA re-confirmed its evaluation in a later addendum to its monograph[18]) and the same value was approved in a December 2002 evaluation of all aspartame research by the European Commission’s Scientific Committee on Food.[8] The FDA has set its ADI for aspartame at 50 mg/kg.[19]

In 1987, the US Government Accountability Office concluded that the food additive approval process had been followed for aspartame.[1] Based on government research reviews and recommendations from advisory bodies such as those listed above, aspartame has been found to be safe for human consumption by more than ninety countries worldwide.[7][8]


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Posted 05 April 2009 - 06:54 PM

The thing is, you have to be wary of what kind of scientists are being questioned -

David Suzuki thinks there is global warming occuring - but he is not climatologist.

There is a Scientist in Edmonton who IS a climatologist, and thinks that global warming is a sham.

again, it may be a geologist oppinion you are getting over a mortician's or a doctor's oppinion.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 08:22 PM

All the sources are cited. Go check them before you continue talking out of your ass.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 08:30 PM

I agree with Lotus. For the original post, what sort of ass-backwards idea is that your body stores compounds in the brain? What kind of an idiot would ever believe that?

You're body has never encountered it before? Digestion doesn't work like that. It breaks down whatever it can, as far as it can. Something doesn't digest? It's excreted. Nothing is seen as "foreign" and stored in the brain.

You're cute professor story is nothing but anecdotal evidence, and poor evidence at that.

In addition to what Lotus posted, a good, concise talk/article into the Aspartame Poisoning garbage can be found/ listened to here:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4127

Or, here's the article:

As a kid I remember hearing that the artificial sweetener aspartame would neutralize your digestive enzymes, and anything else you ate that day would turn to fat. Although this makes no sense biochemically at any level, it sounded scientific enough to me and I was satisfied with it — at least enough to justify my dislike for its awful flavor. It turns out that my fat-producing claim was about the mildest of many arguments made by a growing anti-aspartame movement, and biochemically-nonsensical as it was, it was among the sanest of the arguments. Take a look at websites such as AspartameKills.com, SweetPoison.com, and Dark-Truth.org, and you'll see that a whole new breed of aspartame opponents has taken activism to a whole new level. Here are a few quotes from those web sites:

Thank you Montel Williams for having the fortitude to say: "Multiple Sclerosis is often misdiagnosed, and that it could be aspartame poisoning"

NutraSweet® killed my mother and has killed and/or wounded millions of innocent people in the US and abroad.

Aspartame converts to formaldehyde in vivo in the bodies of laboratory rats.

ARTIFICIAL SWEETENER, ASPARTAME, (EQUAL, NUTRASWEET) LINKED TO BREAST CANCER AND GULF WAR SYNDROME.

Did O J Simpson Have a Reaction to Aspartame that led to the deaths of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman?

THE FDA, THE INTERNATIONAL FOOD INFORMATION COUNCIL (IFIC), PUBLIC VOICE AND OTHERS ARE SCAM NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND PAWNS OF THE NUTRA-SWEET COMPANY.

After more than twenty years of aspartame use, the number of its victims is rapidly piling up, and people are figuring out for themselves that aspartame is at the root of their health problems. Patients are teaching their doctors about this nutritional peril, and they are healing themselves with little to no support from traditional medicine.

Donald Rumsfeld disregarded safety issues and used his political muscle to get Aspartame approved.

The Nazi Scientist's Poison Projects: Poison adults with Aspartame

Because of your and/or your forbearers [sic] exposure to toxics like Aspartame, a summation of immune, mitochondrial, DNA, and MtDNA (genetic) damage has occurred in your body that has made your body unable to deal with chemical insults.

The doctor that was in charge of the lab to study Aspartame, reported that the substance was too toxic and he mysteriously dissappeared [sic] and all the paper work somehow was destroyed.

The Nazis actually won the war. They just pretended to lose so that we wouldn't notice them take over our government.

Well, that's enough for now. And if you haven't heard those, you've almost certainly received one of several hoax emails that people have been forwarding around since 1995, according to Snopes.com, giving an equally long list of untrue claims about aspartame being the cause of nearly every illness. One is even falsely attributed to Dr. Dean Edell. Suffice it to say that every possible kind of attack is made against aspartame: Pseudoscientific attacks where they throw out whole dictionaries of scientific sounding nonsense; guilt by association attacks where they mention aspartame alongside Adolf Hitler and Donald Rumsfeld; non-sequiturs like pointing out the evils of the corporate structure of pharmaceutical companies as if that is support for how and why an "aspartame detoxification" program will "heal" you of all disease; and even Bible quotations attacking aspartame. The anti-aspartame lobby appears to include everyone from alternative treatment vendors trying to sell their products, to fully delusional conspiracy theorists. Dr. Russell Blaylock, a retired surgeon turned anti-pharmaceutical author and activist, believes aspartame is part of a massive government mind-control plot:

We're developing a society because of all these different toxins known to affect brain function. We're seeing a society that not only has a lot more people of lower IQ, but a lot fewer people of higher IQ. In other words a dumbing down, a chemical dumbing down, of society. ...That leaves them dependent on government because they can't excel. ...So, you know, you can kind of piece it together as to why they are so insistent on spending so many hundreds of millions of dollars of propaganda money to dumb down society.

Discovered in 1965 at Searle (now Pfizer), aspartame is an artificial sweetener, aspartyl-phenylalanine-1-methyl ester. Chemistry types call it a methyl ester of the dipeptide of the amino acids aspartic acid and phenylalanine. It is 180 times as sweet as sugar, which is why it's such an effective low-calorie sweetener: It's needed in only miniscule amounts. Partly in response to all the anti-aspartame craziness out there, a group of scientists from the NutraSweet company published a 2002 review of dozens of studies and clinical trials performed worldwide in the journal Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology, which made the following conclusions:

Over 20 years have elapsed since aspartame was approved by regulatory agencies as a sweetener and flavor enhancer. The safety of aspartame and its metabolic constituents was established through extensive toxicology studies in laboratory animals, using much greater doses than people could possibly consume. ...Several scientific issues continued to be raised after approval, largely as a concern for theoretical toxicity from its metabolic components — the amino acids, aspartate and phenylalanine, and methanol — even though dietary exposure to these components is much greater than from aspartame. Nonetheless, additional research, including evaluations of possible associations between aspartame and headaches, seizures, behavior, cognition, and mood as well as allergic-type reactions and use by potentially sensitive subpopulations, has continued after approval. ...The safety testing of aspartame has gone well beyond that required to evaluate the safety of a food additive. When all the research on aspartame is examined as a whole, it is clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions regarding its safety under conditions of intended use.

And yet the claims persist unabated. Here are a few more, addressed point-by-point:

* Claims that aspartame causes Multiple Sclerosis are entirely made up and have no evidence or plausible foundation. Search the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation's web site for "aspartame" to find more than enough information refuting this harmfully misleading claim.

* The idea that aspartame causes "methanol toxicity" is based on the fact that when digested, aspartame does release a tiny amount of methanol. It's less than the amount you get from eating a piece of most any fruit. Tomato juice, for example, gives you four times the methanol of a can of diet soda. It's a common, naturally occuring environmental compound that is found in many foods. Nancy Markle, one of the most vocal aspartame conspiracy theorists, charges that the autoimmune disease lupus is actually misdiagnosed methanol toxicity caused by drinking 3-4 cans of diet soft drinks per day. If she's right, everyone who drinks a glass of tomato juice each day (or the equivalent in other fruits) is gravely ill with lupus. Time Magazine once devoted an entire article to debunking Nancy Markle's baseless claims about aspartame.

* Much has been made of the claim that aspartame turns into formaldehyde in your system. This is true, because formaldehyde is a natural byproduct of digestion of methanol, and it happens whenever you eat almost anything. Formaldehyde is carcinogenic and is considered very dangerous in cases of occupational exposure, for example, when you get a dosage many orders of magnitude greater than the trace amounts produced during natural digestion. Again, aspartame does this in much smaller amounts than many common foods, so this has been a normal, healthy component of digestion for as long as humans have been eating fruits and vegetables.

* Gulf War Syndrome is a weakly evidenced correlation between service in the Gulf War and incidences of chronic fatigue, chronic pain, and a range of vague neurological conditions. Anti-aspartame advocates blame aspartame for this, but there is no correlation between increased aspartame consumption and Gulf War service. In addition, aspartame is among the hypothesized causes that have been eliminated by the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses.

* What about Donald Rumsfeld's involvement with aspartame? He was the CEO of Searle at the time aspartame was approved as a sweetener. The reason he was hired was as a financial turnaround wizard, which he accomplished; he wasn't the guy in the lab designing artificial sweeteners. Even if you accept the conspiracy charges that he leveraged his cronies to force approval of a potentially dangerous product, that still says nothing about aspartame. It's a giant non-sequitur. To assess the safety of a product, we don't ask "Who was the CEO and who were his cronies?" we ask "What are the test results?" and so far, all of the test results show no association between aspartame and any of the diseases it is claimed to cause.

* Some of the claims about aspartame breaking down into unwanted compounds are true at extreme levels of alkalinity or acidity, levels which would be fatal to a human being anyway. This is the case with many foods, by no means is this unique to aspartame. So if your body chemistry is such that aspartame would be a danger to you, you'd have to already be dead from some unrelated cause.

* There is actually one known health risk associated with aspartame, but it only applies to people with a rare genetic disorder on chromosome 12 called phenylketonuria or PKU, which affects about 1 in 15,000 people. They can't metabolize phenylalanine, so they need to minimize not only aspartame but all phenylalanine products. Phenylalanine is an amino acid that's found in many, many foods, including breast milk; so it hardly makes sense to single out aspartame as the problem product.

* It is true that you can't cook with aspartame, but not for any safety reasons. At cooking temperatures it breaks down and loses its flavor, like some other foods. For this reason aspartame is starting to lose ground in the market to Sucralose, another artificial sweetener that does retain its flavor when cooked.

When you hear claims that are supported only by a fringe minority that's in opposition to the scientific consensus, you have good reason to be skeptical right off the bat, but it doesn't mean it's not worth looking into. Aspartame has been looked into ad nauseum even after its approval, and found safe at every try; so at some point you have to depart from rationality to continue supporting the claims made against it. Enjoy your diet Dr. Pepper, it's not going to hurt you; if it was, I'd have been dead decades ago.


Now, this information was all taken from Wikipedia, as well as journals that can be found with a little bit of searching.
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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:34 PM

Do you know how many artificial compounds go through your body every day? It is completely illogical to assume that the body would bother absorbing them, less so to say they get stored in the brain.

The problem with diet soda's is that they cause your stomach to expand (or so they say nowadays) and you feel less full. Also, if you usually drink regular, you feel like you've saved and are more likely to "reward" yourself with a nice hershey bar or somesuch, so diet soda's are also bad for losing weight.

Edited by MrSandwich, 08 April 2009 - 12:35 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:18 PM

I have herd diet soda is bad for you. Lucky it tastes like shit so I'm not temted.
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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:27 PM

If you're gonna drink soda don't drink coke. If you put a teeth in it for 15 min. it will disentigrate

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:55 PM

If you're gonna drink soda don't drink coke. If you put a teeth in it for 15 min. it will disentigrate



That is total BS

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 11:01 PM

The sheer stupidity of people and their eagerness to believe whatever information is handed to them never ceases to astound me even though I see it constantly.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 11:06 PM

Welcome to the twenty-first century Lotus
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 01:00 AM

Stories change on aspartame every year.

One year it helps stimulate brain function. The next year it causes tumors. There is no REAL proof behind it. Just theories. Next year if you sprinkle it on dead people it will make them fart. :o

Otherwise it would of been banned a long time ago by the FDA and the U.S. G.A.O. Along with the European Commission, who if I remember right was the first agency to pursue aspartame...





Most of the info on aspartame is just bullshit people make up, theories, and just hoaxes. If there were PROOF that aspartame was bad for you. It would not be put into food.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 01:06 PM

Welcome to the twenty-first century Lotus

No, this is the way it has always been. Don't be disillusioned to thinking that this is a recent phenomena.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 06:58 PM

i dont drink soda lol best solution
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 10:04 PM

i dont like the taste anyway
real sugar is better
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