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#1 SABRE

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 03:24 PM

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Marcus Luttrell is a former US Navy SEAL who survived a terrible battle in 2005 but was wounded. As part of his recovery the Navy gave him a therapy dog which he named DASY, an acronym for his fallen teammates.

Well recently some punk ass criminals were riding around town executing dogs and they called his dog over from his front yard and executed it. They are in custody, and that link is a petition to the courthouse in Texas to give them the maximum possible sentence the law will allow.

The part that really pisses me off is that this man sacrificed so much for their freedom and they are sick enough to execute his pet, who was dearly close to him.

There is a video down the page on that link if you want to hear his story, sorry but you'll have to put up with a few minutes of Glenn Beck in the interview.

Please sign, it only takes a few minutes, make up a fake address if you're worried about the address; just do this if you can.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 03:48 PM

i signed. thats just disgusting how people would go around shooting dogs. 2 years is not enough. im amazed by how that guy kept his temper under control and didn't kill those punks.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 03:48 PM

Signed, happily. I hope something comes of it.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 03:55 PM

Signed.

I read Marcus's book "Lone Survivor" and it's really sad and dramatic. Makes me appreciate my freedom more.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 04:03 PM

Signed, if I wasn't thousands of miles away I would go down to that courthouse and do something about it myself.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 04:10 PM

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 04:25 PM

I don't know why so many people are down on the death sentence. Many criminals would rather have that than go to prison for XX amount of years and suffer slowly.

They should truly invent more creative ways to carry it out.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:03 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:05 PM

Signed.

I read Marcus's book "Lone Survivor" and it's really sad and dramatic. Makes me appreciate my freedom more.




Signed. I've read his book too.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:22 PM

i signed it, if somebody killed my dog, i would find them and shove my guitar up their ass
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:32 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.


I understand where you're coming from, but you should re-read the story.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:39 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.

Wow.. this is the product of the North American justice system, in my opinion we are WAY to light on almost every criminal.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:44 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.


I understand where you're coming from, but you should re-read the story.



I read the story. I understand the situation but if he gets more than 10 years for killing a dog (even given has a thearpy gift) than we know the justice system is FUCKED.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:45 PM

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:47 PM

i say 30 years in jail

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:51 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.


I understand where you're coming from, but you should re-read the story.



I read the story. I understand the situation but if he gets more than 10 years for killing a dog (even given has a thearpy gift) than we know the justice system is FUCKED.


Are you saying that it's fucked [up] to give 10 years to twisted psychopaths who would do something so sinister?

I don't care if it's 5,10, 50 years, the length not the point, it's that they are thoroughly punished. But if it's 10 years, at least that's 10 years these twisted people won't walk the streets. Stick them in a damn mental institution for all I care, that's where they really belong.

Just think how sick killing dogs for fun is. Do you think that's the only crime those criminals would be capable of if they were let out of jail in two years? Those are future Jeffery Dahmers, that shit is twisted. I can understand being a punk and shooting a dog with a paintball gun or kicking it, but when you can stare a dog, or any animal, in the face after you called it over and it was probably wagging it's tail happy to see you and then you could shoot it point blank, you are a sick mother fucker.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:55 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.


I understand where you're coming from, but you should re-read the story.



I read the story. I understand the situation but if he gets more than 10 years for killing a dog (even given has a thearpy gift) than we know the justice system is FUCKED.


Are you saying that it's fucked [up] to give 10 years to twisted psychopaths who would do something so sinister?

I don't care if it's 5,10, 50 years, the length not the point, it's that they are thoroughly punished. But if it's 10 years, at least that's 10 years these twisted people won't walk the streets. Stick them in a damn mental institution for all I care, that's where they really belong.

Just think how sick killing dogs for fun is. Do you think that's the only crime those criminals would be capable of if they were let out of jail in two years? Those are future Jeffery Dahmers, that shit is twisted. I can understand being a punk and shooting a dog with a paintball gun or kicking it, but when you can stare a dog, or any animal, in the face after you called it over and it was probably wagging it's tail happy to see you and then you could shoot it point blank, you are a sick mother fucker.

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Yeah, I agree. It's actually been proven that most serial killers start by killing animals.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:59 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.


I understand where you're coming from, but you should re-read the story.



I read the story. I understand the situation but if he gets more than 10 years for killing a dog (even given has a thearpy gift) than we know the justice system is FUCKED.


Well that's your opinion. If someone ever killed my dog I wouldn't be happy with a light sentence.

Don't forget that these killers are not right in their heads. It may be someone's dog today, but tomorrow it could be a human being.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:00 PM

How old were the people who did this? If they are like 20+, then ok, sentence them longer, if it is like 20 or less, or "kids" give them 10 years because they are probably just doing it to do it...

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:14 PM

Let's not forget how shitty prison is. I mean, yeah, people always talk about how easy prisoners have it with cable TV and shit like that, but how would you like to live in a place where you basically have to join a gang to avoid getting beaten or raped on a daily basis? On top of that, to get into the gang, you probably have to get beaten and/or raped. You could get stabbed to death with a sharpened toothbrush for looking at the wrong guy the wrong way. Prison is NOT a fucking summer vacation in the Hamptons. Like I said, these guys certainly deserve to be punished for their crimes, but 30 or even 50 years? Most of you haven't even been alive that long.

Also, don't forget that the whole point of imprisoning someone is to rehabilitate them. I know everyone thinks its to punish, but what is punishment worth if the person doesn't learn their lesson and come out a better person for it? Throwing these guys away for the rest of their lives won't undo the damage it did, and if all we've accomplished is tucking them out of sight and out of mind for a while in a place that pretty much trains you to be a better criminal, we've failed as a society. I'm sure people are gonna flame me for saying this, but just take a minute and really think about it before you come back with "Criminals deserve to die, period! Rawr!"

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:16 PM

signed.... Thats Hyphy..... I hope everyone on tech pb signs this..... Any body who is on any other forums should bring it up there too...

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:22 PM

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:29 PM

Criminals deserve to die, period!


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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:32 PM

Let's not forget how shitty prison is. I mean, yeah, people always talk about how easy prisoners have it with cable TV and shit like that, but how would you like to live in a place where you basically have to join a gang to avoid getting beaten or raped on a daily basis? On top of that, to get into the gang, you probably have to get beaten and/or raped. You could get stabbed to death with a sharpened toothbrush for looking at the wrong guy the wrong way. Prison is NOT a fucking summer vacation in the Hamptons. Like I said, these guys certainly deserve to be punished for their crimes, but 30 or even 50 years? Most of you haven't even been alive that long.

Also, don't forget that the whole point of imprisoning someone is to rehabilitate them. I know everyone thinks its to punish, but what is punishment worth if the person doesn't learn their lesson and come out a better person for it? Throwing these guys away for the rest of their lives won't undo the damage it did, and if all we've accomplished is tucking them out of sight and out of mind for a while in a place that pretty much trains you to be a better criminal, we've failed as a society. I'm sure people are gonna flame me for saying this, but just take a minute and really think about it before you come back with "Criminals deserve to die, period! Rawr!"

Another product of the North American justice system, giving a criminal sympathy doesn't bring the dog back or whatever it's about teaching them a lesson and to make sure other people don't follow. Think about it like this, if you got thrown in jail for 5 years for loitering, do you think are streets would be spotless.. I do. And do you think if people got 20 years for stealing ANYTHING, do you think people would be stealing everything they can get there hands on.. hell no! The only reasons criminals do what they do is because they think they can get a way with it, so in my opinion that fucker should get his head chopped off and will see how many others follow in his foot steps.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:48 PM

Another product of the North American justice system, giving a criminal sympathy doesn't bring the dog back or whatever it's about teaching them a lesson and to make sure other people don't follow. Think about it like this, if you got thrown in jail for 5 years for loitering, do you think are streets would be spotless.. I do. And do you think if people got 20 years for stealing ANYTHING, do you think people would be stealing everything they can get there hands on.. hell no! The only reasons criminals do what they do is because they think they can get a way with it, so in my opinion that fucker should get his head chopped off and will see how many others follow in his foot steps.

/end of rant.


Agreed, you might have seemed a little extreme, but agreed. Prison does little to nothing to prisoners, it doesn't "rehabilitate" them, it just makes them sorry that they got caught, not that they did the crime.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:54 PM


You watch this and tell me that they don't deserve more then than the maximum sentence, which is 2 years by the way. If this was anywhere else in the world these scum bags would be sentenced to death.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 07:08 PM

poor dasy T-T
they deserve to get lifetimes worth!!!
i'm glad that guy chased them all the way down!!
i just finished watching the vid, then they wanted to kill him too!
and they were LAUGHING about it.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 07:13 PM

Why give a man a death sentance for killing a animal? Animals are far inferior to Humans.

I'm not justifying or defending the guys but send them to prison for like 10 years, no parole.


I understand where you're coming from, but you should re-read the story.



I read the story. I understand the situation but if he gets more than 10 years for killing a dog (even given has a thearpy gift) than we know the justice system is FUCKED.


Oh, don't forget. It was more than one dog, they went around town doing this.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 07:21 PM

The vid says maximum of 2 years actually...
I say its way too low.
But hey thats just me right?

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 07:39 PM

The vid says maximum of 2 years actually...
I say its way too low.
But hey thats just me right?

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No I completely agree that the North American justice system is a complete joke with regards to sentence times, like I've said before our countries should be much more strict on criminals and we would see a lot less crime. If I'm being reasonable I would say 25 years without parole, my actual opinion is I think they should receive capital punishment. (Decapitation, Electrocution, Gas Chamber, Hanging, Stoning ext..)

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 07:47 PM

i signed.

it disgusts me what some people do nowadays.

and for all of you guys saying why is it such a big deal, it was just a dog. This guy fought for us! this dog meant something to him, it was all of his friends who he had, that he no longer has. This dog was more than just a dog, he was a friend

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 08:13 PM

Signed. I think 2 years is a bit too light, but I also think it's sick to do shit like that to animals who can't even defend themselves properly.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 08:49 PM

Let's not forget how shitty prison is. I mean, yeah, people always talk about how easy prisoners have it with cable TV and shit like that, but how would you like to live in a place where you basically have to join a gang to avoid getting beaten or raped on a daily basis? On top of that, to get into the gang, you probably have to get beaten and/or raped. You could get stabbed to death with a sharpened toothbrush for looking at the wrong guy the wrong way. Prison is NOT a fucking summer vacation in the Hamptons. Like I said, these guys certainly deserve to be punished for their crimes, but 30 or even 50 years? Most of you haven't even been alive that long.

Also, don't forget that the whole point of imprisoning someone is to rehabilitate them. I know everyone thinks its to punish, but what is punishment worth if the person doesn't learn their lesson and come out a better person for it? Throwing these guys away for the rest of their lives won't undo the damage it did, and if all we've accomplished is tucking them out of sight and out of mind for a while in a place that pretty much trains you to be a better criminal, we've failed as a society. I'm sure people are gonna flame me for saying this, but just take a minute and really think about it before you come back with "Criminals deserve to die, period! Rawr!"




I agree with Pro here. The legal system really needs a reform. If it were up to me, prison sentences would be the same, however if you participate in any violation of prison conduct such as battery (rape), rioting, theft, drug traffiking, or aggravated battery or assault you aren't just put in solitary for a day. You are put in a separate closed of portion of the prison, either by yourself or with other trouble makers, and you stay there and get a heavily increased sentence.

Prison is tough, but many people have recovered. They've wronged society and we're giving them a chance to pay time and make it right. If they want to piss away their second chance, there is no third. I would add an additional 10 years for each of those offenses and remove the possibility of parole entirely. Some people are just hardened criminals and have no chance of rehabilitation, at least not in this day and age. Maybe down the road we'll better understand why people commit crimes for the simply for the sake of committing them.

If a guy sells coke to feed his baby, that is one thing. It's a felony that needs prison time, but not as bad as some. However, if a guy willingly joins a gang and willingly commits murders just because then he has a mental problem. The point I'm getting at is that there are those who commit crimes because of some need, financially or otherwise, and those are legitimate candidates for rehabilitation. On the other hand, there are those who have no reason to commit a crime other than some twisted desire to be a criminal and those are the ones who are never going to recover.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 10:51 PM

i watched that video, and wanted to kill those guys myself. i thought about what if that had hapened to my dog. how could someone be so fucked up to kill a veterans dog. im sorry but those assholes need to die, they dont deserve the oppertunity to reform themselves

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 11:04 PM

If this was anywhere else in the world these scum bags would be sentenced to death.


Is this happened anywhere else in 90% of the rest of the world, nobody would even give a shit. You're telling me that someone in Africa is gonna be killed for killing a dog? They eat dogs there. Same deal in China. Pretty sure that the USSR isn't too concerned with animal rights either. That's a pretty big chunk of the world. In fact, I would you to show one country in the entire world, Barrie, that puts animal rights above human rights. Has anyone ever been put to death for killing animals? Even on a massive scale? Someone please show me that.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 11:44 PM

I heard about this on a news radio show. This guy is a friggin stud. He chased these guys down until police set up a barricade.

They played a phone clip from him chasing the killers when he was talking to the cops. When the guys are stopped by the barricade and cuffed, you hear this guy get out of his and say "You the F*ckers who killed my dog?!" and it hangs up.

That guy is awesome.



Anywho, I hope those guys get put in a tiny cell with some very large, lonely, greasy cellmate who has no sexual preference, he takes what he can get, for a very, very long time..

Animal cruelty drives me up the wall.


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Posted 23 April 2009 - 06:56 AM

If this was anywhere else in the world these scum bags would be sentenced to death.


Is this happened anywhere else in 90% of the rest of the world, nobody would even give a shit. You're telling me that someone in Africa is gonna be killed for killing a dog? They eat dogs there. Same deal in China. Pretty sure that the USSR isn't too concerned with animal rights either. That's a pretty big chunk of the world. In fact, I would you to show one country in the entire world, Barrie, that puts animal rights above human rights. Has anyone ever been put to death for killing animals? Even on a massive scale? Someone please show me that.

I was saying that to make a point, and you take 16 words out of my paragraph and try and prove that I'm wrong and you're right. Look I don't really give a shit what you or anyone else thinks, all I'm saying is sentences are much lighter on almost every crime in North America then they are anywhere else in the world.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:12 AM

If this was anywhere else in the world these scum bags would be sentenced to death.


Is this happened anywhere else in 90% of the rest of the world, nobody would even give a shit. You're telling me that someone in Africa is gonna be killed for killing a dog? They eat dogs there. Same deal in China. Pretty sure that the USSR isn't too concerned with animal rights either. That's a pretty big chunk of the world. In fact, I would you to show one country in the entire world, Barrie, that puts animal rights above human rights. Has anyone ever been put to death for killing animals? Even on a massive scale? Someone please show me that.

I was saying that to make a point, and you take 16 words out of my paragraph and try and prove that I'm wrong and you're right. Look I don't really give a shit what you or anyone else thinks, all I'm saying is sentences are much lighter on almost every crime in North America then they are anywhere else in the world.


You can't talk to me like that! If you talk like that on the internet, the FBI comes and shoves a banana up your ass. ...Not really, I just like to just say shit that's not true. But if you call me on it, you're an asshole! Q.Q

Barrie, pretty much everyone in this thread agrees that this is a terrible crime and that these guys deserve to be punished severely. Don't get all bent out of shape about it.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:26 AM

The justice of a group, controlled by the media, tht judges with it's stomach, is called lynch-justice.

I leave this here, for everyone to think about. What they did was killing animals. It you, and only you, that make this something big. Yet you can feast on animals on a daily basis, devour countless eggs, chickens, cows, and what not. Because you, with your western beliefs and western upbringing, indentify adog as a friend, you deem these people to be monsters that need prison times of 25+ years - some mentioned death, too. YOur judgemant is flawed, because it is influenced by personal preferences, emotional decisions and patriotic point of views, that have to do nothing with justice, but the catering of your beliefs.

I am honest to be disgusted by the actions of these guys.
But I am also disappointed in this group movement here, led by brain-washing mechanisms older than your country itself.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:42 AM

The justice of a group, controlled by the media, tht judges with it's stomach, is called lynch-justice.

I leave this here, for everyone to think about. What they did was killing animals. It you, and only you, that make this something big. Yet you can feast on animals on a daily basis, devour countless eggs, chickens, cows, and what not. Because you, with your western beliefs and western upbringing, indentify adog as a friend, you deem these people to be monsters that need prison times of 25+ years - some mentioned death, too. YOur judgemant is flawed, because it is influenced by personal preferences, emotional decisions and patriotic point of views, that have to do nothing with justice, but the catering of your beliefs.

I am honest to be disgusted by the actions of these guys.
But I am also disappointed in this group movement here, led by brain-washing mechanisms older than your country itself.

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I agree with your thoughts on the western world, it's corrupt.. but so is this entire planet.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:10 AM

Lets just say these same people went around Hamburg and destroyed a bunch of peoples cars. Burnt em to the ground. Then when they get caught they just say Ich wurde gebohrt, deshalb was?
What would happen to them?
We might value our pets more then just as property but even the destruction of property is dealt with alot more severely in other countries then in the US. Remember that kid in Singapore that got cought "taggin" cars? He got caned and fined $2500. I bet he doesn't go tag more cars now.
How can you compare eating cows and chickens and eggs to killing a pet for fun? If people didn't eat those things how many wild cows do you think where would be in the world? Not many..the wild chicken probably doens't last too long either, not being able to fly and all.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 04:15 PM

Because you, with your western beliefs and western upbringing, indentify adog as a friend, you deem these people to be monsters that need prison times of 25+ years - some mentioned death, too. YOur judgemant is flawed, because it is influenced by personal preferences, emotional decisions and patriotic point of views, that have to do nothing with justice, but the catering of your beliefs.


I laughed so hard. -_-

It has almost nothing to do with that. Killing dogs is against the law here. It's not about our personal opinions, it's about what's right, and what they did was not right.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 04:32 PM

and if it hadnt been a veteran's dog then this thread wouldnt be here
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:34 PM

and if it hadnt been a veteran's dog then this thread wouldnt be here


I would sign this if it were your dog who was brutally killed in this manner, so don't make light of the terrible crime just because it happened to a veteran.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 08:16 PM

If this was anywhere else in the world these scum bags would be sentenced to death.


Is this happened anywhere else in 90% of the rest of the world, nobody would even give a shit. You're telling me that someone in Africa is gonna be killed for killing a dog? They eat dogs there. Same deal in China. Pretty sure that the USSR isn't too concerned with animal rights either. That's a pretty big chunk of the world. In fact, I would you to show one country in the entire world, Barrie, that puts animal rights above human rights. Has anyone ever been put to death for killing animals? Even on a massive scale? Someone please show me that.

I was saying that to make a point, and you take 16 words out of my paragraph and try and prove that I'm wrong and you're right. Look I don't really give a shit what you or anyone else thinks, all I'm saying is sentences are much lighter on almost every crime in North America then they are anywhere else in the world.


You can't talk to me like that! If you talk like that on the internet, the FBI comes and shoves a banana up your ass. ...Not really, I just like to just say shit that's not true. But if you call me on it, you're an asshole! Q.Q


I have to sig that one....

If this was anywhere else in the world these scum bags would be sentenced to death.


Is this happened anywhere else in 90% of the rest of the world, nobody would even give a shit. You're telling me that someone in Africa is gonna be killed for killing a dog? They eat dogs there. Same deal in China. Pretty sure that the USSR isn't too concerned with animal rights either. That's a pretty big chunk of the world. In fact, I would you to show one country in the entire world, Barrie, that puts animal rights above human rights. Has anyone ever been put to death for killing animals? Even on a massive scale? Someone please show me that.

I was saying that to make a point, and you take 16 words out of my paragraph and try and prove that I'm wrong and you're right. Look I don't really give a shit what you or anyone else thinks, all I'm saying is sentences are much lighter on almost every crime in North America then they are anywhere else in the world.


You can't talk to me like that! If you talk like that on the internet, the FBI comes and shoves a banana up your ass. ...Not really, I just like to just say shit that's not true. But if you call me on it, you're an asshole! Q.Q


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Posted 23 April 2009 - 08:35 PM

If this was anywhere else in the world these scum bags would be sentenced to death.


Is this happened anywhere else in 90% of the rest of the world, nobody would even give a shit. You're telling me that someone in Africa is gonna be killed for killing a dog? They eat dogs there. Same deal in China. Pretty sure that the USSR isn't too concerned with animal rights either. That's a pretty big chunk of the world. In fact, I would you to show one country in the entire world, Barrie, that puts animal rights above human rights. Has anyone ever been put to death for killing animals? Even on a massive scale? Someone please show me that.

I was saying that to make a point, and you take 16 words out of my paragraph and try and prove that I'm wrong and you're right. Look I don't really give a shit what you or anyone else thinks, all I'm saying is sentences are much lighter on almost every crime in North America then they are anywhere else in the world.


You can't talk to me like that! If you talk like that on the internet, the FBI comes and shoves a banana up your ass. ...Not really, I just like to just say shit that's not true. But if you call me on it, you're an asshole! Q.Q

Barrie, pretty much everyone in this thread agrees that this is a terrible crime and that these guys deserve to be punished severely. Don't get all bent out of shape about it.

I'm not getting bent out of shape, I know words get perceived differently threw text. But if you were talking to me in person you would see I'm not angry nor do I think you're an asshole. All I'm saying is if people got there hands chopped off for loitering, the streets would be spot-less. And the moral to that is I think we treat criminals way to lightly, and that's why we see so much crime.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 08:54 PM

I'm not getting bent out of shape, I know words get perceived differently threw text. But if you were talking to me in person you would see I'm not angry nor do I think you're an asshole. All I'm saying is if people got there hands chopped off for loitering, the streets would be spot-less. And the moral to that is I think we treat criminals way to lightly, and that's why we see so much crime.


Yeah, in some Utopian, Marxist society. What are you going to do? Find someone and chop there hands off so that no one ever steals again? While that seems practical to you in the fact that maybe no one would steal again, how sick is cutting off a guys hands because he stole fruit from a street stand to feed himself? I could give you plenty of examples. The problems are on an individual basis. Some steal because of a dire need. And some just for the hell of it. Those are the ones who need the strongest reprimanding.

First of all, the Bill of Rights protects us in America from cruel and unusual punishment. Maiming our fucking citizens for petty theft falls under that category. We have freedom in this country because men and woman have died to protect us from people with that mindset. That freedom is what needs to be gone after.

Incarceration needs to be so much reformed. More individual help towards growth needs to be given to each prisoner. Sentences need to be more strict for certain crimes. But the crimes themselves are human nature and you can line up behind the Utopian thinkers with the mindset that people can be perfect, but it's never going to be. And you can say you know things won't get perfect, but is drastically cutting down on crime not aimed towards perfection?

By the way, the last time a dictator was cutting off citizens' hands for theft America fucked him in the ass, and ourselves as well :/
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Posted 24 April 2009 - 04:25 PM

and if it hadnt been a veteran's dog then this thread wouldnt be here


I would sign this if it were your dog who was brutally killed in this manner, so don't make light of the terrible crime just because it happened to a veteran.


come on lets not bring my dog into it. lol

im not making light of it. But I feel alot of people are blowing this out of proportion by saying that this guy needs to be killed or mutilated. I really dont think anyone would be saying this if it had just been some regular persons dog who had been killed. im sure there is a story behind every one of those dogs that you will never hear but this doesnt mean that the sentence should be longer/shorter. Not sure if you get my point

A persons life is a long ways away from a dogs but still 2 years is way too fucking generous

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 08:39 PM

signed, and read his book. Marcus should have the honor of shooting these fuckers him self. In cold blood




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