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#1 THEJIMSTERNESS

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 02:32 PM

Well, pretty much everyone knows how bad soda is for you. People will completely stop drinking it, and demonize it and i've even heard it blamed for mass obesity.
But, as i understand it, it is possible to use these as healthy energy boosts, and i've done it all 3 years i've played football.

So basically, the main problem with soda is it has too many calories and it dehydrates you.

Calories: people find soda fattening because they do not understand it. They think of it as fluids, or a drink. In actuality, it isn't.
It sounds weird, but soda is actually food because of all the sugars in it. SODA IS FOOD. Think of it like a side dish at dinnertime, it supplies you with needed calories to remain healthy and active.

Dehydration: Ask any desert survival specialist, they will tell you not to eat any food before you find water, or you will dehydrate faster. Why is this? Your body needs a substantial amount of water to support digestion. Like i said above, SODA IS FOOD. Yes, soda has water in it. However, the calorie count is so high, it takes more water to digest the sugar than the soda alone can provide, therefore resulting in a loss of water, resulting in the dreaded dehydration.

Why soda can be good for you playing sports: WHAT!!!! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! >FLAME< Trust me, just listen. The calories of soda are mostly made up of simple sugars, which require little to no breakdown for your body to use, unlike starches(and other carbs) and fats. Because they don't need to be broken down very much, these calories can be quickly accessed and used to provide rapid bursts of energy.

The method: The real trick is to drink about three-to-five times as much water as soda you plan to drink before a game. That way you can access the powerful sugars and not have to worry about dehydration. I do it for football and it is amazingly effective. It isn't a miracle, but helps you jump off to a powerful start, and helps prevent calorie exhaustion because your body can't access other sources of energy quick enough.

I would drink a gallon of water and then a can of Mug rootbeer before a game, and i would go into halftime feeling great. And that is playing BOTH WAYS.


Tips:
the same goes for sugary sports drinks like gatorade, but the calorie-to-water ratio is less severe and not as dehydrating
avoid caffeine and any other crap like that-your body doesn't like them and wants to pee the out(dehydrating you) use rootbeer: no caffeine:)
only use this in a pinch or as a backup plan- eating healthy the night before is much more a priority
don't get carried away
The gatorade tiger woods style seems to have an about even calorie-to-water ratio, so definitely give that a try



Anyways, this is my explanation of soda's place in nutrition as i understand from all that i've learned. remember, everybody's body is different, so it may react differently

i'd love some feedback, corrections, or intelligent people to tell me i am completely wrong and should lynch myself

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 02:37 PM

Soda is a fluid. So you can lynch yourself for that ;)

But the way the way the sugar breaks down with the enzymes in your saliva it acts like it.


Also:
You forgot to mention that when you do drink soda, and your mind thinks it has lots of energy. It will act that way for a period of time, which will result in your body switching from aerobic to celluar respiration. This is what causes lactic acid build-up in your muscles also known as "cramps." Thats why its good to drink a nice ratio of water to soda refering back to your earlier post.

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 02:47 PM

Well, pretty much everyone knows how bad soda is for you. People will completely stop drinking it, and demonize it and i've even heard it blamed for mass obesity.
But, as i understand it, it is possible to use these as healthy energy boosts, and i've done it all 3 years i've played football.

So basically, the main problem with soda is it has too many calories and it dehydrates you.

Calories: people find soda fattening because they do not understand it. They think of it as fluids, or a drink. In actuality, it isn't.
It sounds weird, but soda is actually food because of all the sugars in it. SODA IS FOOD. Think of it like a side dish at dinnertime, it supplies you with needed calories to remain healthy and active.

Dehydration: Ask any desert survival specialist, they will tell you not to eat any food before you find water, or you will dehydrate faster. Why is this? Your body needs a substantial amount of water to support digestion. Like i said above, SODA IS FOOD. Yes, soda has water in it. However, the calorie count is so high, it takes more water to digest the sugar than the soda alone can provide, therefore resulting in a loss of water, resulting in the dreaded dehydration.

Why soda can be good for you playing sports: WHAT!!!! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! >FLAME< Trust me, just listen. The calories of soda are mostly made up of simple sugars, which require little to no breakdown for your body to use, unlike starches(and other carbs) and fats. Because they don't need to be broken down very much, these calories can be quickly accessed and used to provide rapid bursts of energy.

The method: The real trick is to drink about three-to-five times as much water as soda you plan to drink before a game. That way you can access the powerful sugars and not have to worry about dehydration. I do it for football and it is amazingly effective. It isn't a miracle, but helps you jump off to a powerful start, and helps prevent calorie exhaustion because your body can't access other sources of energy quick enough.

I would drink a gallon of water and then a can of Mug rootbeer before a game, and i would go into halftime feeling great. And that is playing BOTH WAYS.


Tips:
the same goes for sugary sports drinks like gatorade, but the calorie-to-water ratio is less severe and not as dehydrating
avoid caffeine and any other crap like that-your body doesn't like them and wants to pee the out(dehydrating you) use rootbeer: no caffeine:)
only use this in a pinch or as a backup plan- eating healthy the night before is much more a priority
don't get carried away
The gatorade tiger woods style seems to have an about even calorie-to-water ratio, so definitely give that a try



Anyways, this is my explanation of soda's place in nutrition as i understand from all that i've learned. remember, everybody's body is different, so it may react differently

i'd love some feedback, corrections, or intelligent people to tell me i am completely wrong and should lynch myself


I'm sorry but you like root beer, that in itself completely invalidates your whole post and any more that you should make in the future.....ugh root beer ::barf::

but being the good person that I am i shall humor you for a bit.

I cut soda nearly completely out of my diet, except for ginger beer(Its my weakness)

Wouldn't it be better to eat really watery fruit before a workout?
Like watermelon, pineapple, cantalope, ect and drink water?
There is already a ton of sugar and sodium in the foods people eat regularly I try to avoid soda and such like my life depended on it
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 02:53 PM

I've cut soda completely out of my life for the summer. And I hope to keep it that way!

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 04:29 PM

I personally like soda, even though it may be unhealthy for me.

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 05:29 PM

Good thread, I think. Yes, soda is pretty unhealthy for you, if you dont consume it in small quantities. This way of consuming is alright. Not good, but alright. The biggest issue is the potential for a sugar crash later on.

Personally, I would rather play tired all day and have my body ramp itself up through adrenaline, endorphins, and water than with a sugary drink. But thats just me.

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 05:31 PM

WWWHHHATTTT?!?!?!?!?soda a food....cant be....ur lying for sure.jk,jeese i need to lay off it,maybe thats why im fat...hmmm?

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 05:43 PM

Well, pretty much everyone knows how bad soda is for you. People will completely stop drinking it, and demonize it and i've even heard it blamed for mass obesity.
But, as i understand it, it is possible to use these as healthy energy boosts, and i've done it all 3 years i've played football.

So basically, the main problem with soda is it has too many calories and it dehydrates you.

Calories: people find soda fattening because they do not understand it. They think of it as fluids, or a drink. In actuality, it isn't.
It sounds weird, but soda is actually food because of all the sugars in it. SODA IS FOOD. Think of it like a side dish at dinnertime, it supplies you with needed calories to remain healthy and active.

Dehydration: Ask any desert survival specialist, they will tell you not to eat any food before you find water, or you will dehydrate faster. Why is this? Your body needs a substantial amount of water to support digestion. Like i said above, SODA IS FOOD. Yes, soda has water in it. However, the calorie count is so high, it takes more water to digest the sugar than the soda alone can provide, therefore resulting in a loss of water, resulting in the dreaded dehydration.

Why soda can be good for you playing sports: WHAT!!!! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! >FLAME< Trust me, just listen. The calories of soda are mostly made up of simple sugars, which require little to no breakdown for your body to use, unlike starches(and other carbs) and fats. Because they don't need to be broken down very much, these calories can be quickly accessed and used to provide rapid bursts of energy.

The method: The real trick is to drink about three-to-five times as much water as soda you plan to drink before a game. That way you can access the powerful sugars and not have to worry about dehydration. I do it for football and it is amazingly effective. It isn't a miracle, but helps you jump off to a powerful start, and helps prevent calorie exhaustion because your body can't access other sources of energy quick enough.

I would drink a gallon of water and then a can of Mug rootbeer before a game, and i would go into halftime feeling great. And that is playing BOTH WAYS.


Tips:
the same goes for sugary sports drinks like gatorade, but the calorie-to-water ratio is less severe and not as dehydrating
avoid caffeine and any other crap like that-your body doesn't like them and wants to pee the out(dehydrating you) use rootbeer: no caffeine:)
only use this in a pinch or as a backup plan- eating healthy the night before is much more a priority
don't get carried away
The gatorade tiger woods style seems to have an about even calorie-to-water ratio, so definitely give that a try



Anyways, this is my explanation of soda's place in nutrition as i understand from all that i've learned. remember, everybody's body is different, so it may react differently

i'd love some feedback, corrections, or intelligent people to tell me i am completely wrong and should lynch myself


Dehydration is when the body loses more water than it's takes in, so drinking 20oz of soda with about 12-14tsp of refined sugar isn't going to dehydrate you.

It's the caffeine that's in most sodas and energy drinks that dehydrates you not the digestion process. Your body uses almost zero energy to process beverages. Fibers and solid protiens take about 10% of their value to digest but even that's not very dehydrating. Water does help break down solids, and it does help transport fat out of the body, but it's not going to affect any possible loss of dehydration from the digestion process.

For the smart ass that will bring it up, there are NO negative calorie foods.

There's simply no need to drink the empty calories that soda gives you. Refined sugar and HFCS are nothing more than simple carbs, there's nothing special about them. A banana has the same amount of sugar as a 20oz soda, plus it has a third of your vitamin C, fiber, and more potassium than gatorade. Apples have vitamin C, fiber, and vitamin A.

If you can't eat a good meal the night before and the morning of, you're better off with a piece of fruit and some water than you'll ever be with a soda or even a gatorade. Soda is your worst option, you may as well chase 12 tsp of refined sugar with a bottle of water and call it a day.

Edited by robnix, 01 June 2009 - 05:44 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:03 AM

Well, pretty much everyone knows how bad soda is for you. People will completely stop drinking it, and demonize it and i've even heard it blamed for mass obesity.
But, as i understand it, it is possible to use these as healthy energy boosts, and i've done it all 3 years i've played football.

So basically, the main problem with soda is it has too many calories and it dehydrates you.

Calories: people find soda fattening because they do not understand it. They think of it as fluids, or a drink. In actuality, it isn't.
It sounds weird, but soda is actually food because of all the sugars in it. SODA IS FOOD. Think of it like a side dish at dinnertime, it supplies you with needed calories to remain healthy and active.

Dehydration: Ask any desert survival specialist, they will tell you not to eat any food before you find water, or you will dehydrate faster. Why is this? Your body needs a substantial amount of water to support digestion. Like i said above, SODA IS FOOD. Yes, soda has water in it. However, the calorie count is so high, it takes more water to digest the sugar than the soda alone can provide, therefore resulting in a loss of water, resulting in the dreaded dehydration.

Why soda can be good for you playing sports: WHAT!!!! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! >FLAME< Trust me, just listen. The calories of soda are mostly made up of simple sugars, which require little to no breakdown for your body to use, unlike starches(and other carbs) and fats. Because they don't need to be broken down very much, these calories can be quickly accessed and used to provide rapid bursts of energy.

The method: The real trick is to drink about three-to-five times as much water as soda you plan to drink before a game. That way you can access the powerful sugars and not have to worry about dehydration. I do it for football and it is amazingly effective. It isn't a miracle, but helps you jump off to a powerful start, and helps prevent calorie exhaustion because your body can't access other sources of energy quick enough.

I would drink a gallon of water and then a can of Mug rootbeer before a game, and i would go into halftime feeling great. And that is playing BOTH WAYS.


Tips:
the same goes for sugary sports drinks like gatorade, but the calorie-to-water ratio is less severe and not as dehydrating
avoid caffeine and any other crap like that-your body doesn't like them and wants to pee the out(dehydrating you) use rootbeer: no caffeine:)
only use this in a pinch or as a backup plan- eating healthy the night before is much more a priority
don't get carried away
The gatorade tiger woods style seems to have an about even calorie-to-water ratio, so definitely give that a try



Anyways, this is my explanation of soda's place in nutrition as i understand from all that i've learned. remember, everybody's body is different, so it may react differently

i'd love some feedback, corrections, or intelligent people to tell me i am completely wrong and should lynch myself


Dehydration is when the body loses more water than it's takes in, so drinking 20oz of soda with about 12-14tsp of refined sugar isn't going to dehydrate you.

It's the caffeine that's in most sodas and energy drinks that dehydrates you not the digestion process. Your body uses almost zero energy to process beverages. Fibers and solid protiens take about 10% of their value to digest but even that's not very dehydrating. Water does help break down solids, and it does help transport fat out of the body, but it's not going to affect any possible loss of dehydration from the digestion process.

For the smart ass that will bring it up, there are NO negative calorie foods.

There's simply no need to drink the empty calories that soda gives you. Refined sugar and HFCS are nothing more than simple carbs, there's nothing special about them. A banana has the same amount of sugar as a 20oz soda, plus it has a third of your vitamin C, fiber, and more potassium than gatorade. Apples have vitamin C, fiber, and vitamin A.

If you can't eat a good meal the night before and the morning of, you're better off with a piece of fruit and some water than you'll ever be with a soda or even a gatorade. Soda is your worst option, you may as well chase 12 tsp of refined sugar with a bottle of water and call it a day.


I agree, caffeine takes most of the blame for dehydration, but digestion of anything itself uses water
If i remember correctly fibers are not digested
celery is negative calorie food, and so is iceberg lettuce i think

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:59 AM

Hmm... water combined with a drink that makes you pee more....

you will be wetting yourself on the field.

Its best to stick with water.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 10:33 AM

Well, pretty much everyone knows how bad soda is for you. People will completely stop drinking it, and demonize it and i've even heard it blamed for mass obesity.
But, as i understand it, it is possible to use these as healthy energy boosts, and i've done it all 3 years i've played football.

So basically, the main problem with soda is it has too many calories and it dehydrates you.

Calories: people find soda fattening because they do not understand it. They think of it as fluids, or a drink. In actuality, it isn't.
It sounds weird, but soda is actually food because of all the sugars in it. SODA IS FOOD. Think of it like a side dish at dinnertime, it supplies you with needed calories to remain healthy and active.

Dehydration: Ask any desert survival specialist, they will tell you not to eat any food before you find water, or you will dehydrate faster. Why is this? Your body needs a substantial amount of water to support digestion. Like i said above, SODA IS FOOD. Yes, soda has water in it. However, the calorie count is so high, it takes more water to digest the sugar than the soda alone can provide, therefore resulting in a loss of water, resulting in the dreaded dehydration.

Why soda can be good for you playing sports: WHAT!!!! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! >FLAME< Trust me, just listen. The calories of soda are mostly made up of simple sugars, which require little to no breakdown for your body to use, unlike starches(and other carbs) and fats. Because they don't need to be broken down very much, these calories can be quickly accessed and used to provide rapid bursts of energy.

The method: The real trick is to drink about three-to-five times as much water as soda you plan to drink before a game. That way you can access the powerful sugars and not have to worry about dehydration. I do it for football and it is amazingly effective. It isn't a miracle, but helps you jump off to a powerful start, and helps prevent calorie exhaustion because your body can't access other sources of energy quick enough.

I would drink a gallon of water and then a can of Mug rootbeer before a game, and i would go into halftime feeling great. And that is playing BOTH WAYS.


Tips:
the same goes for sugary sports drinks like gatorade, but the calorie-to-water ratio is less severe and not as dehydrating
avoid caffeine and any other crap like that-your body doesn't like them and wants to pee the out(dehydrating you) use rootbeer: no caffeine:)
only use this in a pinch or as a backup plan- eating healthy the night before is much more a priority
don't get carried away
The gatorade tiger woods style seems to have an about even calorie-to-water ratio, so definitely give that a try



Anyways, this is my explanation of soda's place in nutrition as i understand from all that i've learned. remember, everybody's body is different, so it may react differently

i'd love some feedback, corrections, or intelligent people to tell me i am completely wrong and should lynch myself


Dehydration is when the body loses more water than it's takes in, so drinking 20oz of soda with about 12-14tsp of refined sugar isn't going to dehydrate you.

It's the caffeine that's in most sodas and energy drinks that dehydrates you not the digestion process. Your body uses almost zero energy to process beverages. Fibers and solid protiens take about 10% of their value to digest but even that's not very dehydrating. Water does help break down solids, and it does help transport fat out of the body, but it's not going to affect any possible loss of dehydration from the digestion process.

For the smart ass that will bring it up, there are NO negative calorie foods.

There's simply no need to drink the empty calories that soda gives you. Refined sugar and HFCS are nothing more than simple carbs, there's nothing special about them. A banana has the same amount of sugar as a 20oz soda, plus it has a third of your vitamin C, fiber, and more potassium than gatorade. Apples have vitamin C, fiber, and vitamin A.

If you can't eat a good meal the night before and the morning of, you're better off with a piece of fruit and some water than you'll ever be with a soda or even a gatorade. Soda is your worst option, you may as well chase 12 tsp of refined sugar with a bottle of water and call it a day.


I agree, caffeine takes most of the blame for dehydration, but digestion of anything itself uses water
If i remember correctly fibers are not digested
celery is negative calorie food, and so is iceberg lettuce i think


Outside of dried foods, you don't need water to avoid dehydration while eating. Water does help transport fats and fibers through and out your system so it's a good thing to drink something while eating, but too much water will break down and dilute the fibers and acids necessary for digestion and result in cramps, diarrhea, or both.

There are no negative calorie foods.

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Let's think about this with MATH. Celery has about 9-10 calories per stalk, for shits and giggles we'll assume that it takes 20 calories to digest it. (which it doesn't, we're just having fun here). If you need a negative 3500 calories to lose one pound, then 3500/(20-10)=350 stalks of celery to lose one pound.

Soluble fibers are digestible and can help lower blood cholesterol and control sugar absorption.
Insoluble fibers are not digestible and help make you nice and regular.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:55 PM

Hmm... water combined with a drink that makes you pee more....

you will be wetting yourself on the field.

Its best to stick with water.


thats why you drink caffeine free like root beer


lol and if your drinking enough your already peeing like a racehorse

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your fat, i'm not gonna sugarcoat it cuz you'll eat that too

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 10:06 PM

Well you did forget one major fact, most of the water our body gets is through all the food we eat which even includes salteen crackers!
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 07:37 PM

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 07:40 PM

i think this is a thread that is more of a "how to counter the bad effects of soda to make it ok to drink"

there isnt a way that soda is GOOD for you, not becuase of sugars (it would be hard to live life w/out them) but because of all the chemicals in them. calories are good as long as you dont consume more than you use. but chemicals are TERRIBLE for you body. the more natural stuff you consume, the better off you are. the sugar isnt the reason i stay away from soda, its the chemicals in it that deter me from drinking it. sure the sugars may be natural, but read the ingredients list on a can of soda (or if you live in northwest ohio, you call it "pop") and you'll find a lot of names of chemicals. the 1st ingredient is "carbonated water" how do you think the water becomes carbonated? chemicals. so in reality your not even reading all the list of chemcials when you look at a can of soda.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:58 PM

there isnt a way that soda is GOOD for you, not becuase of sugars (it would be hard to live life w/out them)

If you removed all added sugar from your diet you'd be just fine. Your body does just fine converting simple and complex carbs into the glucose that it needs for energy.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:21 PM

That "chemical" that carbonates water is called Carbon Dioxide. Believe it or not, CO2 is a natural substance. What do you think you are exhaling, and what do plants use for photosynthesis besides the sun and water, which creates the oxygen you inhale?

What exactly do you think that piece of lettuce is? Or that chunk of beef? Or even the water you are drinking? Or the air you are breathing? They are all chemicals, and complex combinations of chemicals to create those.

So, blaming "chemicals" in general for how bad soda is, is stupid. Its the chemicals that are put in soda that poison your body that are bad for you. There ARE a lot of chemicals in soda that are bad, but not every last one of them are.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:34 PM

forgive me, i was unclear... sasquatch put it better than i did

and about the carbonation, i assumed there was more than carbon dioxide, there is no actual evidence to back up what i was saying, it was just guesswork there.

There ARE a lot of chemicals in soda that are bad, but not every last one of them are.


the ones in there that are bad are enough to deter me from drinking soda, even if it has sugars in it. instead ill get my sugars from fruit and such.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:57 PM

Also:
You forgot to mention that when you do drink soda, and your mind thinks it has lots of energy. It will act that way for a period of time, which will result in your body switching from aerobic to celluar respiration. This is what causes lactic acid build-up in your muscles also known as "cramps." Thats why its good to drink a nice ratio of water to soda refering back to your earlier post.


When you drink or eat anything, your mind doesn't think anything. That's not how ingestion and digestion work. Your mind doesn't know what is going on. It won't "act" like it has "lots" (when you mean a lot) of energy. This is all meaningless nonsense that doesn't have any actual information or evidence behind it, and goes against the way the body actually digests food.

Also, your body doesn't "switch" from aerobic to cellular respiration. I really don't know where you got that from...

Here, read this:

http://en.wikipedia....lar_respiration

Maybe some actual information would help in this matter.

In addition, what actually causes lactic acid build up in the muscles:

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Lactic_acid



the more natural stuff you consume, the better off you are. the sugar isnt the reason i stay away from soda, its the chemicals in it that deter me from drinking it. sure the sugars may be natural, but read the ingredients list on a can of soda (or if you live in northwest ohio, you call it "pop") and you'll find a lot of names of chemicals. the 1st ingredient is "carbonated water" how do you think the water becomes carbonated?


You should really get out of the mode of thinking that "natural" equates to good. There are many natural compounds that are bad for you. And your body doesn't distinguish between natural and artificial compounds. In digestion, your body breaks down and absorbs whatever it can. Be it HFCS, or organically grown, all natural Turbinado sugar from Hawaii.

And anything that you can touch, is made of chemicals. It's another buzz word that people use to insinuate danger. Water is a chemical. The carbon dioxide (also known as CO2, the shit you can shoot a paintball with) in carbonated water is a chemical. By the way, seltzer water is carbonated water.

Water is carbonated by dissolving CO2 into the water under high pressure. That's pretty much it. When the pressure is released, the CO2 escapes from the liquid and makes the soda fizz.

Everyone is so worried and alarmed about the silliest, most trivial of issues.
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:34 AM

If you want a good energy boost, eat a lot of fruit. I can remember a time at summer camp where I was so completely spent from walking around so much, I almost didn't have energy to keep walking. I found a nice looking raspberry bush (I can't tell you how good that looked then...) and after a couple handfuls of berries and a few minutes, I felt as good as new.

Fruit > soda/energy drinks.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 07:05 AM

I disagree.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 09:00 AM

The large amounts of HFCS found in soda make this a terrible drink, no matter what benefits it gives, benefits other beverages also provide.

HFCS is about 55% fructose, more than sucrose (the real simple sugar). From wikipedia: :"Large quantities of fructose stimulate the liver to produce triglycerides, promotes glycation of proteins and induces insulin resistance" (according to a study.) What does all that mean? It means HFCS + high fat diet = your body takes that fat and sticks it right on your hips.

It's just not worth it. There are easier ways to get energy for games without pounding down sugars.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 09:18 AM

I'm a long distance runner, usually in marathons we have stations with soda at them. Soda gives you a good carbohydrate boost when running, though I don't recommend drinking it all the time. But once in a while wont hurt you.
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Posted 08 June 2009 - 11:54 PM

Well, pretty much everyone knows how bad soda is for you. People will completely stop drinking it, and demonize it and i've even heard it blamed for mass obesity.
But, as i understand it, it is possible to use these as healthy energy boosts, and i've done it all 3 years i've played football.

So basically, the main problem with soda is it has too many calories and it dehydrates you.

Calories: people find soda fattening because they do not understand it. They think of it as fluids, or a drink. In actuality, it isn't.
It sounds weird, but soda is actually food because of all the sugars in it. SODA IS FOOD. Think of it like a side dish at dinnertime, it supplies you with needed calories to remain healthy and active.

Dehydration: Ask any desert survival specialist, they will tell you not to eat any food before you find water, or you will dehydrate faster. Why is this? Your body needs a substantial amount of water to support digestion. Like i said above, SODA IS FOOD. Yes, soda has water in it. However, the calorie count is so high, it takes more water to digest the sugar than the soda alone can provide, therefore resulting in a loss of water, resulting in the dreaded dehydration.

Why soda can be good for you playing sports: WHAT!!!! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! >FLAME< Trust me, just listen. The calories of soda are mostly made up of simple sugars, which require little to no breakdown for your body to use, unlike starches(and other carbs) and fats. Because they don't need to be broken down very much, these calories can be quickly accessed and used to provide rapid bursts of energy.

The method: The real trick is to drink about three-to-five times as much water as soda you plan to drink before a game. That way you can access the powerful sugars and not have to worry about dehydration. I do it for football and it is amazingly effective. It isn't a miracle, but helps you jump off to a powerful start, and helps prevent calorie exhaustion because your body can't access other sources of energy quick enough.

I would drink a gallon of water and then a can of Mug rootbeer before a game, and i would go into halftime feeling great. And that is playing BOTH WAYS.


Tips:
the same goes for sugary sports drinks like gatorade, but the calorie-to-water ratio is less severe and not as dehydrating
avoid caffeine and any other crap like that-your body doesn't like them and wants to pee the out(dehydrating you) use rootbeer: no caffeine:)
only use this in a pinch or as a backup plan- eating healthy the night before is much more a priority
don't get carried away
The gatorade tiger woods style seems to have an about even calorie-to-water ratio, so definitely give that a try



Anyways, this is my explanation of soda's place in nutrition as i understand from all that i've learned. remember, everybody's body is different, so it may react differently

i'd love some feedback, corrections, or intelligent people to tell me i am completely wrong and should lynch myself


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Posted 13 June 2009 - 10:56 AM

Well, pretty much everyone knows how bad soda is for you. People will completely stop drinking it, and demonize it and i've even heard it blamed for mass obesity.
But, as i understand it, it is possible to use these as healthy energy boosts, and i've done it all 3 years i've played football.

So basically, the main problem with soda is it has too many calories and it dehydrates you.

Calories: people find soda fattening because they do not understand it. They think of it as fluids, or a drink. In actuality, it isn't.
It sounds weird, but soda is actually food because of all the sugars in it. SODA IS FOOD. Think of it like a side dish at dinnertime, it supplies you with needed calories to remain healthy and active.

Dehydration: Ask any desert survival specialist, they will tell you not to eat any food before you find water, or you will dehydrate faster. Why is this? Your body needs a substantial amount of water to support digestion. Like i said above, SODA IS FOOD. Yes, soda has water in it. However, the calorie count is so high, it takes more water to digest the sugar than the soda alone can provide, therefore resulting in a loss of water, resulting in the dreaded dehydration.

Why soda can be good for you playing sports: WHAT!!!! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! >FLAME< Trust me, just listen. The calories of soda are mostly made up of simple sugars, which require little to no breakdown for your body to use, unlike starches(and other carbs) and fats. Because they don't need to be broken down very much, these calories can be quickly accessed and used to provide rapid bursts of energy.

The method: The real trick is to drink about three-to-five times as much water as soda you plan to drink before a game. That way you can access the powerful sugars and not have to worry about dehydration. I do it for football and it is amazingly effective. It isn't a miracle, but helps you jump off to a powerful start, and helps prevent calorie exhaustion because your body can't access other sources of energy quick enough.

I would drink a gallon of water and then a can of Mug rootbeer before a game, and i would go into halftime feeling great. And that is playing BOTH WAYS.


Tips:
the same goes for sugary sports drinks like gatorade, but the calorie-to-water ratio is less severe and not as dehydrating
avoid caffeine and any other crap like that-your body doesn't like them and wants to pee the out(dehydrating you) use rootbeer: no caffeine:)
only use this in a pinch or as a backup plan- eating healthy the night before is much more a priority
don't get carried away
The gatorade tiger woods style seems to have an about even calorie-to-water ratio, so definitely give that a try



Anyways, this is my explanation of soda's place in nutrition as i understand from all that i've learned. remember, everybody's body is different, so it may react differently

i'd love some feedback, corrections, or intelligent people to tell me i am completely wrong and should lynch myself


amen now spread my sig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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mountain dew has like 72g of sugar (ITS GREAT!)
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