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#1 Jake

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 02:06 PM

http://firstcallpain...rple-frame.aspx


http://www.zephyrpai...Gun__Black.html

which is better and what upgrades could i get for it.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 02:19 PM

trilogy pump... enough said

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 02:21 PM

http://firstcallpain...rple-frame.aspx


http://www.zephyrpai...Gun__Black.html

which is better and what upgrades could i get for it.

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well the trilly doesnt have many upgrades available for it cause its a integrated 3 way soa ll u culd add on is the grips asa etc.
the KP has a ion threaded feedneck and the rest of the r the same stuff like grips asa etc
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 02:46 PM

Azodin KP and plus its also cheaper

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 02:53 PM

kaos pump.... enough said
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 02:54 PM

Don't buy the trilly from them. Get one from one of the Ebay stores and put a pump kit on it, it will cost under $100. You can get reg and barrel for it for the same cost as the AKP and it will also be new.
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 05:06 PM

Don't buy the trilly from them. Get one from one of the Ebay stores and put a pump kit on it, it will cost under $100. You can get reg and barrel for it for the same cost as the AKP and it will also be new.


exactly. That site you linked is way over priced... if you buy new you'll have money for a cheap adjustable reg and cp 2 piece .682 to own noobs

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 05:34 PM

kp ftw!...
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 05:53 PM

thanks guys. i think ill try to go for the Kaos and get upgrades. what bore should i get?
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 06:05 PM

Yeah, that trilly is waaaay over rpiced, on ebay you can get one for <$100

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 07:19 PM

thanks guys. i think ill try to go for the Kaos and get upgrades. what bore should i get?



please don't... the trilogy is $55 canadian on Ebay buy it now. so lets tally this up.

Trilogy lets say $50
Reg (cheap evil det) 20-30
cp two piece 682 12 inch (getting fancy here) 50-60
pmp pump kit 20-30

$140 for a decent enough pump gun. that has more options for the valve, grip frame, bolt, etc.

Azodin KP $160
Evil Det reg 20-30
Cp 2 piece 682 50-60

$230 for something that has a removebale feedneck, but crappier grip frame and grip options, bolt options, and valve options.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 07:23 PM

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 09:10 PM

Removed a pointless post... sorry

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:00 AM

integrated 3 way built in the body... thats why i hate the trillogy they shoot nice for a pump but with those three things visible just looks bad ( personal preference)

theres only 1 thing in each marker that i dont like

Trillogy = built in feedneck ( can only fit brass eagle and viewloaders)
KP = 2 finger trigger (comming out with a single trigger with board)

upgrades for each not mandatory just preference
Trillogy
on off asa if you want a raid mount asa you have to buy a rail
drop forward
single trigger frame
feedneck
barrel
delrin bolt
ccm internals
regulator(cheap evil det reg 12.99)
grips ( design purpose)

Kaos Pump
feedneck interchangeable with ion threaded feednecks
any asa (has built in rail dont need to buy separate rail)
evil det reg (12.99)
stiffer springs ( they say it reduce the farting but i just use a paper towel to silence my farting and the gun)
single trigger frame (comming soon)
small bore barrel (triad system sux on small-med paint)

conclusion
both markers just needs small bore barrel other than that its just personal preference
prize wise depends on where you get them they should be almost even
the trillogy comp on ebay range about 79-139 + pump kit
kaos pump 149.99 some website offer a pocket hopper hahah

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 02:40 AM

between those two is tough, because it appears the Trilogy comes with a regulator

Anytime I look at a pump gun, I ALWAYS first look at the feedneck

If you can't stick your loader on the feedneck (which you can with the KP), you need to add the expense of a new loader

The Kaos Pump is an absolutely amazing pump gun. I think after looking at both guns carefully, I'd still go Kaos Pump over the trilogy

The dual intimidator detents > single autococker ball bearing detent
Triad Ball Retention System > Stock WGP Barrel
No Cocking Rod > WGP Cocking Rod (unscrewing it to change the velocity sucks)
No Back Block > Back Block

I think the KP still beats it

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 02:51 AM

I've owned both and I prefer the KP over the Trilly although the Trilly cost me $100.00
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 04:00 AM

You don't need a new hopper just because the feedneck isn't a clamping one.

The feedneck is larger than most hoppers, so all you have to do is put some tape around the neck of whatever hopper you want to use. My Winchester doesn't move at all when it's on my Trilogy.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:30 AM

You don't need a new hopper just because the feedneck isn't a clamping one.

The feedneck is larger than most hoppers, so all you have to do is put some tape around the neck of whatever hopper you want to use. My Winchester doesn't move at all when it's on my Trilogy.


you mean brass eagle? winchester is kinda loose on trillogy i have to put electric tape to fit it to mine

between those two is tough, because it appears the Trilogy comes with a regulator

Anytime I look at a pump gun, I ALWAYS first look at the feedneck

If you can't stick your loader on the feedneck (which you can with the KP), you need to add the expense of a new loader

The Kaos Pump is an absolutely amazing pump gun. I think after looking at both guns carefully, I'd still go Kaos Pump over the trilogy

The dual intimidator detents > single autococker ball bearing detent
Triad Ball Retention System > Stock WGP Barrel
No Cocking Rod > WGP Cocking Rod (unscrewing it to change the velocity sucks)
No Back Block > Back Block

I think the KP still beats it


true kp is very convenient for new pump players

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:41 AM

See that's how I see it too. The AKP is the McDonalds of pumps, its easy and convenient. The Sniper is like Bern's Steakhouse. Both will do the job, the one is just OH so much better.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:59 PM

See that's how I see it too. The AKP is the McDonalds of pumps, its easy and convenient. The Sniper is like Bern's Steakhouse. Both will do the job, the one is just OH so much better.


exactly so your pointing out that snipers are more expensive than kp? since Bern's Steakhouse is more expensive than mcdonalds 99cents value meal hahahah jk

AkP does the job right with no mod needed all you need to do is a good paint to barrel match
but i have a wgp sniper and i love tinkering it, and a vsc phantom, i bring them all to the field when i play and i use all of them haha every other game i switch guns

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:28 PM

i removed the 3 ugly inlets on my trilly. gunna get a reg on it sometime. plus that site is way over rated
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:40 PM

You don't need a new hopper just because the feedneck isn't a clamping one.

The feedneck is larger than most hoppers, so all you have to do is put some tape around the neck of whatever hopper you want to use. My Winchester doesn't move at all when it's on my Trilogy.


you mean brass eagle? winchester is kinda loose on trillogy i have to put electric tape to fit it to mine


That's what I was talking about.

Use tape on the feedneck of the hopper until it fits.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:56 PM

http://www.trinitypa...ductCode=TR 628

so add an extra 30 bucks to whoever has the total and you got a pretty decent trilogy

http://cgi.ebay.com/...New...:1|294:30

Fixes the need to remove the cocking rod to adjust velocity

and really, is a reg necessary for the Trilogy? Wasnt it designed to run off unregged c02/hpa?

Edited by Dragon1291, 11 June 2009 - 10:59 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2009 - 11:40 PM

http://www.trinitypa...ductCode=TR 628

so add an extra 30 bucks to whoever has the total and you got a pretty decent trilogy

http://cgi.ebay.com/...New...:1|294:30

Fixes the need to remove the cocking rod to adjust velocity

and really, is a reg necessary for the Trilogy? Wasnt it designed to run off unregged c02/hpa?



True, but regulating it means it will be a lot more consistant.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:02 AM

Who needs a regulator on a trilogy? Heck, who even needs anodization:

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Anyways, get an Evil Detonator regulator from ANS for $15 to get better consistency for both guns. They take time to break in but will work fine with a pump. All the fancy regs will get you is a faster recharge rate which you don't need at 2 BPS

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:06 AM

Who needs a regulator on a trilogy? Heck, who even needs anodization:




I swear to god I will rip those barbs off that trilly.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:28 AM

No, they make it pump faster.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:36 AM

No, they make it pump faster.


Ah, but of course the speed holes!

Any more plans on your cocker body there?

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:37 AM

No, they make it pump faster.


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Posted 12 June 2009 - 08:37 AM

Any more plans on your cocker body there?


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