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#1 Psycho_Ninja

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 06:53 PM

Tippmann and many other people have claimed that there markers are tough as nails. How true is this? I have an A5 and it seems pretty tough. My idea for this post is for people to tell there sotires about how tough there tippmann markers really are. IF you have any storys about a tippmann marker surviving, or getting destryoed in some kind of accident. Post them here....

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 07:05 PM

A kid that goes to the same field as me has a 98 that survived after being rolled over by a Dodge Dakota. It's still shooting :D


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Posted 22 June 2009 - 07:07 PM

They are built to withstand more than an average players abuse.

Still aint indestructible though.

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 07:11 PM

my friend accidently left his 98c outside all winter, and when he found it in spring, it was shooting fine!

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 07:52 PM

not indestructable but more durable than the average player would ever need imo
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 08:07 PM

Well: I was shooting in my backyard and tripped over some wiring and dropped it down a hill into a creek. the "hill" is what is left of an old house's foundation when it fell backwards into the creek. most of the house was cleaned up but there's still a lot of concrete with rebar poking out of it. my 98 bounced down this hill until it came to rest at the bottom of the creek (it's only about 3 ft. deep). it sat there for about a half hour while I got some swim shorts on and down to the creek. when i got back up. i left it sitting in front of a horse trailor beside my house. when my dad got home he backed his F-250 Superduty up to the trailor running over my beloved 98c. then he loads about 4 horses into the trailor and pulls out, running over the gun again, which was then run over a 3rd time by a trailor with 4 horses in it. it's pretty scratched up and i had to get a new hopper but it STILL shoots fine lol
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 08:39 PM

Well: I was shooting in my backyard and tripped over some wiring and dropped it down a hill into a creek. the "hill" is what is left of an old house's foundation when it fell backwards into the creek. most of the house was cleaned up but there's still a lot of concrete with rebar poking out of it. my 98 bounced down this hill until it came to rest at the bottom of the creek (it's only about 3 ft. deep). it sat there for about a half hour while I got some swim shorts on and down to the creek. when i got back up. i left it sitting in front of a horse trailor beside my house. when my dad got home he backed his F-250 Superduty up to the trailor running over my beloved 98c. then he loads about 4 horses into the trailor and pulls out, running over the gun again, which was then run over a 3rd time by a trailor with 4 horses in it. it's pretty scratched up and i had to get a new hopper but it STILL shoots fine lol


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Posted 22 June 2009 - 10:59 PM

hahaha, man if that storys real thats pretty kool

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 11:51 PM

ive been playing for 11 years and i have seen one tippmann jam and it litterly stopped the game and everyone looked at it and said no way

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 12:11 AM

I have owned three and only one broke. A cracked power tube, besides that I have never seen one go down, they are respected for a reason.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 12:15 AM

hahaha, man if that storys real thats pretty kool



yeah, it is. i had the stock hopper on there. so when it fell down the hill it got beat up pretty bad. I have a 16" J&J ceramic on it but luckily i was comparing the accuracy of it to my stock 8" when i fell so the stock barrel was bent up really bad
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Posted 23 June 2009 - 12:20 AM

The externals of Tippmanns are durable as hell. The internals are another story all together. I have cracked 3 power tubes, broken 2 ratchets on cyclones, and fried a eframe with ambient humidity.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 08:37 PM

one time me and a buddy decided to torture test the 98c for the same reason (to see when they stopped). We submerged it in water and mud and cycled the bolt (allowing mud and water to get in), we dropped it from a deck, we buried it (with out air) for a couple days, backed over it with a bob cat. After each test the tippmann fired, not nicely but still fired. the one time we got it to fail was when we got a fire really hot and tossed it in (degassed of course) and let it sit, well that melted the o-rings, the bolt, and powertube into place making it completely useless.
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 08:53 PM

Just think about it. A lot of paintball guns use thin aluminum; Tippmanns use thick aluminum (X7 and TPX excluded). Which do you think will be stronger?



They aren't aluminum. They are cast pot-metal. It is why you can't annodize them... The X-7 is magnesium and that along with the TPX and Triumph (being composite) are the only exceptions.


I have personally found an original Model 98 buried in mud at the local field. It was rusty to near holes in the gills, and I had to kick open the bolt. Put a new tank on it, and despite leaking like a colander it shot.


Let me put it this way, there is a reason why 95% of fields choose the 98 as their rental gun...


I wouldn't say the same for any of the modern Tippmann stuff, ever since they got bought out the stuff they make is crap.

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 08:59 PM

theyre like titanium of paintball..but the quality sucks for accuracy unless you like milsim im soz..



My Tippmann isn't innaccurate... What makes them innaccurate?

A 98 with a good barrel vs, say, an ION with the same brand and bore barrel shooting the same paint will be no different...

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 09:10 PM

theyre like titanium of paintball..but the quality sucks for accuracy unless you like milsim im soz..



My Tippmann isn't innaccurate... What makes them innaccurate?

A 98 with a good barrel vs, say, an ION with the same brand and bore barrel shooting the same paint will be no different...


actually it is...it always uncocks and stuff and swirls..



... so... You are saying... and I want to be sure of this...

... Uncocking and "stuff" make the gun shoot less accurately...
... and somehow... being a Tippmann makes... "swirls"?


Ok, yeah. And why would it uncock?

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 09:17 PM


... so... You are saying... and I want to be sure of this...

... Uncocking and "stuff" make the gun shoot less accurately...
... and somehow... being a Tippmann makes... "swirls"?


Ok, yeah. And why would it uncock?

because it fails underpressure
i lol'd at this say but it matches with what im saying...i broke my dads 98c by throwing it in the riverbed when it flooded and he made me buy a new one for him...and the barrel sucks...it always swirls...and the bolt always brakes paint



Because you broke it, you claim the Tippmanns aren't durable.
Because the stock barrel isn't accurate, you think the gun itself is inaccurate.
Because you use a gravity feed hopper and outshoot it and thus chop, you say the bolt chops.


I say my 98 has lasted me a good few years without a single issue excepting a cyclone ratchet crack.
I say my 98 is accurate, but I use a Lapco barrel.
I say my 98 doesn't chop with the stock bolt, but I have a cyclone feed.


So, who is right here? If you treat your equipment like garbage, expect it to operate thusly. Don't blame the gun for your own shortcomings.

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 09:30 PM

he had a CF ya d bag so stop flaming on me ya tippmann fanboy my ion will own your face out anyday dude...and if the barrel affects the tippy that bad bonestock then its obviously not worth the money to upgrade it a shit load



Ok, I don't know what a CF is. I never meant to flame you, but if you wanted to take the thread off topic with rediculous accusations you brought it on yourself. I asked you to clarify what you meant, you failed to present anything of the sort and instead made an uninformed statement which only led me to believe you are ignorant. And if you don't know what you are talking about, you shouldn't be posting like you have valid input.

Secondly, I'd like to see any ion "own my face". I'd like to say bring it and play it, but it'd probably break when it came out of your gear-bag, assuming you have one.

Because the 98 isn't very good bone-stock, it is pointless to upgrade... Well, with that mentality it is a wonder you have an ion...

... And I can't expect to take you seriously unless you type like a normal person so everyone can understand what you want to say.



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Posted 04 July 2009 - 10:31 PM

Just think about it. A lot of paintball guns use thin aluminum; Tippmanns use thick aluminum (X7 and TPX excluded). Which do you think will be stronger?

They aren't aluminum. They are cast pot-metal. It is why you can't annodize them... The X-7 is magnesium and that along with the TPX and Triumph (being composite) are the only exceptions.

If you're going to get specific, then the A5 and 98 are aluminum alloys; not straight aluminum (ie - pot metal (slang term)). Just as the X7 is a magnesium alloy and not straight magnesium.

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 10:59 PM

Just think about it. A lot of paintball guns use thin aluminum; Tippmanns use thick aluminum (X7 and TPX excluded). Which do you think will be stronger?

They aren't aluminum. They are cast pot-metal. It is why you can't annodize them... The X-7 is magnesium and that along with the TPX and Triumph (being composite) are the only exceptions.

If you're going to get specific, then the A5 and 98 are aluminum alloys; not straight aluminum (ie - pot metal (slang term)). Just as the X7 is a magnesium alloy and not straight magnesium.


:rolleyes: Yeah...




But speaking in terms of Aluminum as it is used in most paintball markers, a Tippmann is not...

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:32 PM

a couple weeks ago i was playing in the rain and slipped and took a barrel first fall on to the gun. i landed on the stock and shoved the barrel about 3in into the ground. the hopper popped off and after i put it back on and cleaned the dirt out of my barrel it shot fine. the barrel and stock held up better than i thought they would considering the barrel is a smart parts 2pc all american and the stock is a broken m4 stock that is being held on with a borg style stock mount and im about 270lbs. thats alot of pressure on the gun. :lol:
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 01:10 PM

he had a CF ya d bag so stop flaming on me ya tippmann fanboy my ion will own your face out anyday dude...and if the barrel affects the tippy that bad bonestock then its obviously not worth the money to upgrade it a shit load
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 03:47 AM

I've always had at least one Tippmann or another since 1990 and the only time they ever 'broke' was when I did something wrong in the disassembly/assembly process (i.e. overtightening bolts and screws).
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 01:11 PM

I have had only one problem with my Tippmann. The front sight screw stripped. The head of it stripped, not the scre-in part(does that make sense?) Other than that, no problems than that.


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Posted 17 August 2009 - 01:58 PM

they claim they are tough as nails because they are! they are made from metal for god sakes they are by far the most physically durable markers on the market. plus once decked out they look pretty sick. my a-5 is godly in woodsball:)

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 02:45 PM

... they are by far the most physically durable markers on the market.



I can think of only one gun made that is more durable: an Automag.

But, keep in mind that the Automags are all Stainless Steel...

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Posted 20 December 2009 - 09:13 PM

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 04:55 AM

I made a failed attempt at customizing my 98. The end result was a gun with about half the paint it started with, big gouges in it, and the back sight completely gone. (I took it to a grinder) Don't ask me what I was trying to do because I can't remember. My thought is somebody put something in my food that day. :D

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My x7 was breaking every other ball one day so i stuck it in the river and shot it a couple times. It seemed to help. :D That was a really bad day... I put my pistol barrel on my x7 that day so I could swab it out with my finger. When you use a 1" barrel, your range goes down to about 50 ft but chops and barrel breaks don't affect you at all.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 08:55 AM

heck i prefer using my A5 over my SLG. Tippmanns are tuff. Never had a problem with my 98 or A5. The only exception is my TPX. Tippmann is sending me all new parts tho. Their customer service rules.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:21 PM

There is a damn good reason why most paintball fields use 98c's as a rental marker. I ended up finding a marker buried in dirt with little roots growing around it. dirt got behind the hammer through the cocking slot and all inside the bolt and barrel. cleaned out the asa screwed on the tank and POP POP I wasn't surprised.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:24 PM

Well..... I was at Skirmish and I was ruuning throgh the woods with my 98c and then I feel into a lake, gun and all, and I got up and shot a whole hopper into 4 guys.Posted Image

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:00 PM

I'm not a huge fan of tippmann like I used to be. You give up too much for durability imo, but they are a lot of fun to upgrade and the most durable out there.
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Posted 05 August 2010 - 09:47 PM

I'm not going to take the time to quote anyone from this thread, but I'm sure you'll know who I'm talking about. My a5 has a 14" J&J ceramic that I got for $30 and from about 25 yards away I can shoot a 6 inch group with 10+ rounds and less than one second between rounds anytime. Before I got my a5, I rented out a 98 with a 14" barrel of similar price and from near 80 yards away was lobbing rounds right past my friend's head, nearly hitting him after 5-10 rounds.
Even with a cheap(er) barrel, accuracy becomes a thing of the past with a Tippmann. By the way, I highly reccomend the J&J ceramic barrels. Great accuracy, sweet flat black finish, great porting, needs no cleaning other if you get shot in the porting. Never had a barrel break!

Getting back on topic though... I was at the frontlines at the Synergy D-day event this year. While not paying attention and trying to get a better look, I crept out behind an incorrectly laid wire spool. (It was sitting on both ends/horizontal.) All of a sudden a guy snaps out about 20 feet away with his speedball gun and tries to light me up but I (attempted) to dive behind a board. The only problem is that I'm 230 lbs. and quite strong, so when I dove into the two 4" trees that were spaced so that they stopped me on the end of the tank (adding to the force applied to the asa and grip frame) and the end of the barrel. That was an O SNAP moment in which my entire body weight was put onto the ends of the gun. I got to cover and started firing back, without a single problem.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:22 PM

I've had a few problems with my 98 but I kind of deserved them. The only one that really pissed me off was when I threw my marker to run faster in capture the flag. It slammed into a tree and broke the cyclone off, I was able to screw it back on with some new screws from the hardware store, important thing though was that I got back with the flag and the busted cyclone gave me a chance to use my pump. Posted Image
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 03:24 PM

I've had a few problems with my 98 but I kind of deserved them. The only one that really pissed me off was when I threw my marker to run faster in capture the flag. It slammed into a tree and broke the cyclone off, I was able to screw it back on with some new screws from the hardware store, important thing though was that I got back with the flag and the busted cyclone gave me a chance to use my pump. Posted Image


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Tippmanns are tough, the only thing I have seen mess up personally is the E-Grip board. The select-fire E-Grip A5 was my first marker.

Go mechanical and you will likely never have a serious problem.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:00 PM

Im going to tell you a story, about someone who beat the everlasting crap out of a 98. He dropped it off a 2 and 3 story building, ran it over with his truck, put it in a lake for 3 days, stepped on it, and god only know what else. To answer your question it shoots fine, and no it wasn't me. Tranlation, its a tough marker.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 02:51 PM

Well: I was shooting in my backyard and tripped over some wiring and dropped it down a hill into a creek. the "hill" is what is left of an old house's foundation when it fell backwards into the creek. most of the house was cleaned up but there's still a lot of concrete with rebar poking out of it. my 98 bounced down this hill until it came to rest at the bottom of the creek (it's only about 3 ft. deep). it sat there for about a half hour while I got some swim shorts on and down to the creek. when i got back up. i left it sitting in front of a horse trailor beside my house. when my dad got home he backed his F-250 Superduty up to the trailor running over my beloved 98c. then he loads about 4 horses into the trailor and pulls out, running over the gun again, which was then run over a 3rd time by a trailor with 4 horses in it. it's pretty scratched up and i had to get a new hopper but it STILL shoots fine lol


Wow


I heard the exact same story with every detail on PBN. I dont think this is true, or the kids from pbn copied u
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 03:15 PM

i accidentally dropped my tippy in a shallow fast moving river hit a few rocks got water logged, i changed my paint out and kept on playing

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 03:19 PM

I'm not going to take the time to quote anyone from this thread, but I'm sure you'll know who I'm talking about. My a5 has a 14" J&J ceramic that I got for $30 and from about 25 yards away I can shoot a 6 inch group with 10+ rounds and less than one second between rounds anytime. Before I got my a5, I rented out a 98 with a 14" barrel of similar price and from near 80 yards away was lobbing rounds right past my friend's head, nearly hitting him after 5-10 rounds.
Even with a cheap(er) barrel, accuracy becomes a thing of the past with a Tippmann. By the way, I highly reccomend the J&J ceramic barrels. Great accuracy, sweet flat black finish, great porting, needs no cleaning other if you get shot in the porting. Never had a barrel break!

Getting back on topic though... I was at the frontlines at the Synergy D-day event this year. While not paying attention and trying to get a better look, I crept out behind an incorrectly laid wire spool. (It was sitting on both ends/horizontal.) All of a sudden a guy snaps out about 20 feet away with his speedball gun and tries to light me up but I (attempted) to dive behind a board. The only problem is that I'm 230 lbs. and quite strong, so when I dove into the two 4" trees that were spaced so that they stopped me on the end of the tank (adding to the force applied to the asa and grip frame) and the end of the barrel. That was an O SNAP moment in which my entire body weight was put onto the ends of the gun. I got to cover and started firing back, without a single problem.


how often do you go to synergy cause i live in cleveland and go there all the time

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:30 PM

they are abused not cleaned and used as rentals. I rest my case

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 04:37 PM

I, personally, believe Tippmanns before the buy out were a better quality product. That being said, they are still considered one of the most durable markers out there as long as you stick to their mechanical blowback roots.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:53 PM

They can go through hell and still perform as well as they did when you first got it.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:07 PM

i saw this guy and he threw his 98 in mud and it shot just fine

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:04 AM

I personally bought my Pro Carbine NEW in 1999. In the 13 years i have owned and shot that gun it has seen HELL.

For a long time it was my beater/loaner gun. Its the one i used when the rain started pouring and when i knew at some point due to conditions i was gone end up on my rear. Its the gun i loaned out to new pliers when i brought them out to the field. My sister one time used it and took a header down this hill and used the barrel as here weak and stuffed a good 5" of mud core sample down the barrel (the barrel did not survive). But the gun STILL shoots as good as day one and in the 13 years the ONLY repair the gun has needed is ONE ORING for the Air adapter going to the valve.

Now a days it hangs proudly over my bar all shiny as kinda a trophy. BUT every now and then i take it out to the field for old times sake (still shoots awesome wish tippmann would bring em back way better feel to em than the 98c or A5s). Today i got a new A5 to use as my beater/loaner and i absolutely love the gun but still think the Carbine felt more like a bloody TANK even thought it is lighter/smaller.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:35 PM

i do believe the older ones are extremely reliable. i have not shot one or even held one that was made after the buyout, but have not heard as good of things about them. That being said, i put my old a-5 through some beatings and it held up great ... i am afraid that if i had the same treatment on my dm, it would not have held up nearly as well.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:11 PM

The reason I purchased my Tippmann A-5 when I started was I wanted a made in the USA marker. And I didn't want to mess with my marker. I just wanted to play. And with my A-5 I can do just that. I use it, and throw it in the corner, and next time I'm ready to play, it works.

Everytime.


I did go through the whole "upgrade" thing and put techt stuff on my cyclone, but once I literally WORE out my ratched (the aluminum actually shredded from use) I went back to my old stock internals. And then one time I broke my white ratchet, (but I took it out in 5 degree temps to see what would happen... And Tippmann sent me the new black style ratchet FOR FREE! Even paid the shipping and threw in a spare...

Check out my youtube channel I have over 100 videos using my A-5. And it always fires when I pull the trigger, and often I tag out the other guy with it before they even get a chance to fire at me! It is an amazing marker!




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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

My A5 took a core sample while I was doing an accidental front flip down a hill . The first ball I shot broke but it got the dirt out :D




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