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#1 TechPB-Mike

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:01 PM

Today we did some testing on how far paintball guns shoot

Not for "effective breaking distance", just simply how far they will shoot.

We took four guns-


Tippmann A5 w/ Flatline @ 285fps (gun wouldn't shoot higher for some reason, tried 4 different tanks and CO2 got it to 285fps) = 289.3 feet
Vanguard Creed @ 300fps = 305.7 feet
SP-1 w/ Apex @ 300fps = 325.7
Tiberius Arms T9 shooting First Strike Rounds @ 300fps = 517.0 feet

We shot down a long, dirt road. For the paintball guns, we shot about 4 pods each, just shooting it at all different angles, 25 degree, 35 degree, 45 degrees, 55 degrees, just shot until Willie got a good idea of where they were landing.

He set a road cone in the "middle" of the disbursement, and we measured (using one of those rolling wheel measuring devices) from our starting point.

Keep in mind, one of the rounds did hit Willie, and broke on his shoulder at 500 feet

Here are screen shots of the measuring wheel, video will be up shortly

Tippmann Measurement-

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Creed Measurement-

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SP-1 w/ Apex Measurement

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First Strike Measurement

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:02 PM

first take that dk

so im guessing a creed review is coming mike right?
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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:09 PM

nice, did you say you had a break from the first strike rounds on willies shoulder? at 500 feet?!

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:17 PM

nice, did you say you had a break from the first strike rounds on willies shoulder? at 500 feet?!


Yep! He took one on the shoulder at 500 feet and it broke

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:18 PM

nice, did you say you had a break from the first strike rounds on willies shoulder? at 500 feet?!


Yep! He took one on the shoulder at 500 feet and it broke


damn, I'm going to have to get some of these.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:31 PM

nice, did you say you had a break from the first strike rounds on willies shoulder? at 500 feet?!


Yep! He took one on the shoulder at 500 feet and it broke


damn, I'm going to have to get some of these.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 10:01 PM

Whe should now see if barrel lenght effects rang and accuracy with the first strike.
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Posted 30 August 2009 - 10:16 PM

Whe should now see if barrel lenght effects rang and accuracy with the first strike.


I don't see how

Once the round is out of the barrel, that's when all the exciting stuff happens

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 01:36 AM

It's called a "trundle wheel" or "surveyor's wheel". They are O.K. for a quick and dirty count.

Personally this is what I use (for work and pleasure, exact model and tripod):

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 02:06 AM

It should be said that the Flatline's ideal operating range is from about 240-270 fps. Outside that range, unpredictable things tend to happen, which usually comprises of ball breakage. It's also not uncommon to have difficulty raising velocity much higher than what you were showing. The Flatline is just one trippy little device.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Flatline would have actually chucked paint further than this test showed (probably closer to the rest of the pack) at a lower velocity. The damn thing's so picky it's frightening.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 02:39 AM

i can testify for this. i used old high schools football field to test and i put one right near the t-joint of the upright from the opposite end.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:06 AM

Today we did some testing on how far paintball guns shoot

Not for "effective breaking distance", just simply how far they will shoot.

We took four guns-


Tippmann A5 w/ Flatline @ 285fps (gun wouldn't shoot higher for some reason, tried 4 different tanks and CO2 got it to 285fps) = 289.3 feet
Vanguard Creed @ 300fps = 305.7 feet
SP-1 w/ Apex @ 300fps = 325.7
Tiberius Arms T9 shooting First Strike Rounds @ 300fps = 517.0 feet

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Was the Creed's range characteristic of a typical nonApex/nonFlatline gun?

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:10 AM

Was the Creed's range characteristic of a typical nonApex/nonFlatline gun?


Yes, the maximum range of a paintball at 300fps exit velocity is in the range of 120 yards.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:22 AM

nice, did you say you had a break from the first strike rounds on willies shoulder? at 500 feet?!


Yeah it caught me in the left shoulder and broke and I was at about 490 to 500 ft. You will see from the videos where I tried to be in the stream to get an average landing location. There were some shots that went beyond and also some that went shorter. But I went to try and find the middle the best I could for each gun. I hope the video will show that balls coming in and how some were short and some were long.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:44 AM

This is nuckin futs.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:23 AM

Today we did some testing on how far paintball guns shoot

Not for "effective breaking distance", just simply how far they will shoot.

We took four guns-


Tippmann A5 w/ Flatline @ 285fps (gun wouldn't shoot higher for some reason, tried 4 different tanks and CO2 got it to 285fps) = 289.3 feet
Vanguard Creed @ 300fps = 305.7 feet
SP-1 w/ Apex @ 300fps = 325.7
Tiberius Arms T9 shooting First Strike Rounds @ 300fps = 517.0 feet

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Was the Creed's range characteristic of a typical nonApex/nonFlatline gun?



exactly, the Creed was simply to judge the distance of a normal, high end paintball gun with a normal .689 14" barrel

Just the reference point

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:19 PM

How many clicks on the Apex?

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:37 PM

How many clicks on the Apex?



I varied between 50 to 100% spin, at all angles of firing

we shot 4 pods through the apex, constantly changing it up to see how far we could go

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:41 PM

FSRs FTW!!!!

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:50 PM

that is awesome.. That is the proof that FSR's are worth the money.. I can't believe that the round broke on Willie at 500 feet. That is so awesome.. hearing that and hearing about Mike sniping that guy at LL through the mesh is just awesome. Does anyone know if ANY T9 is able to take the FSR's? Or is there some new gen of T9 that I will have to get?
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Posted 31 August 2009 - 04:12 PM

that is awesome.. That is the proof that FSR's are worth the money.. I can't believe that the round broke on Willie at 500 feet. That is so awesome.. hearing that and hearing about Mike sniping that guy at LL through the mesh is just awesome. Does anyone know if ANY T9 is able to take the FSR's? Or is there some new gen of T9 that I will have to get?


You have to upgrade the T9 with the FS kit (~$400 + ~$150) or you can get a T4 (~$900). So far it seems that both the T9 and the T4 shoot just as well with the FSR - that is there is no performance advantage in getting the T4 - so it would seem.



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Posted 31 August 2009 - 04:56 PM

Hey thats my a-5 that was used. Still cant get it to 300fps!?!?

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 05:47 PM

just got back from a little vacation - sweet test Mike and Willie.

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 05:55 PM

Wow, those round will be real deadly on the field


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Posted 19 September 2009 - 12:11 AM

uv halo nice theory you did guess 519 ft nice

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:35 PM

You need to up date this without the flatline/apex.

Putting backspin on a fs is pointless and ruins accurancy and range.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:45 PM

You need to up date this without the flatline/apex.

Putting backspin on a fs is pointless and ruins accurancy and range.



What? You do realize that Mike did not shoot FS rounds through the apex or, flatline right?




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