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#1 FamousForNow

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 04:16 PM

This story requires a preface. lol

Ok so i know everyone is siked about the new rotors. Shit i was blown away to. I was like wtf dye always takes it to the next level... Toolless disassembly.. Like how sick is that. I also checked out the pinokio loaders, it wasnt anything spectacular but the design is simple, tried, and true. It works great, durable, and holds 240 paintballs without the large nose on it (it holds 400 with the nose). Thats like 15 extra seconds you can hold a lane down without reloading. But while i was at the booth ( i went there right after looking at the rotor) he showed me nicky cuba's and mike paxson's loaders (chris lasoya also has one). I was like dang those are cool. And then he said dye asked them to shoot the rotors and they said no.... When he said that i was like.... idk if i believe that. Like why would they.... But i just left it be and continued to talk to the owner for like 45 more minutes. Really nice guy by the way, he was letting ppl borrow hoppers that needed them. YES borrow.

Well anyways here is the story. I was pitting for russian legion at the event, and the first day (Friday) that we played was great. Not that many problems with the paint and the weather. But the next day it was raining in the morning and we were getting ready towards the end of the ironmen game and everyone was complaining about the paint like blowing up in there hoppers. One guy went through 4 halos. I guess the humidity was making them expand and since they were brittle already the paddles broke the balls in the halos and rotors. And im just chillen filling pods listening to these players get pissed at their situation it was either mike or nicky who just shouted amidst all that "GET A PINOKIo". I couldnt help but laugh, all these guys were pissed about there hoppers breaking paint and these 2 were chill with there pinokios. I guess that guy wasnt lying when he told me they loved those loaders.... SO basically moral of the story rotor,halo < pinokio... lol just thought i would share.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 06:50 PM

are you are pinokio accept speed feeds, if they dont that could be the end of it right there....but I do not know, but from the looks of it pinokio rides way to high for me to even think about..

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 06:55 PM

i still want a rotor


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Posted 30 October 2008 - 07:17 PM

I would rather get a rotor. The pinokio is uglier than hte rotor. and not as easy to take apart. I don't know why, which company would you trust NOT SPECIFIC! Dye or Pinoko? I rest my case, but yes funny story ;)

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 07:48 PM

The pinokio is the best loader i've ever used. So easy to clean, extremely easy on batteries, holds 240 rounds without the nose cone etc etc.

Rotor is great too, but you cant run water through it ;)
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 07:57 PM

I would rather get a rotor. The pinokio is uglier than hte rotor. and not as easy to take apart. I don't know why, which company would you trust NOT SPECIFIC! Dye or Pinoko? I rest my case, but yes funny story ;)


Okay I was skeptic too. I was looking at the rotor and its sleek design and then the pinokio's more bulky design and wanted to get a rotor.

But then I spoke to the Pinokio dealer... The loader is increadibly solid. It's easier to disassemble than the rotor. And cleaning...OMG...it's so easy clean. He told me if it gets dirty just pour water through it and wash out the paint. I was very skeptical, I could only think "He's lying to me, as soon as I pour water into it it'll void my warranty." Sure enough he took a bottle of Zephyerhills and poured it into the loader and it came out the feed neck and it was still running. My jaw dropped. The design is so solid that you can put it in water and it'll be fine.

The only piece that requires any tool to remove is the soft feeder with a regular screwdriver, nothing special, and it's easy to get to by just taking off the nose.

Also if you like to make your loader feed faster than 28bps, you can upgrade to the gangstar board for like another 20 bucks and pump out near 40 bps and it still won't void your warranty, he will even install it for you.

And yes, it does take a speedfeed. I have the crown on mine which way better than the old finger speedfeed.

It is really worth the money. Even it's profile isn't really that big, and the design does not obstruct your vision at all.

The feedneck is made with ribbing so it will never move or swing when you're playing it's also thick enough so as to never snap off during play, which more than I can say about most any loader.

This guy is the man and so is this loader, it is totally worth the buy.

Nicky Cuba is a Dye player and still he chooses to keep the Pinokio over the new Dye rotor and he's not really being offered anywhere near what Youngblood is giving him to use the Pinokio. He uses it because it's an unfknblvble loader, and I personally am very curious to see what plans he has for the future.

You may think it's not as aesthetically attractive as the Rotor, but trust me after a game, or even less, you'll be a fan.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:02 PM

Screw the rotor. Your paying for a speed you can't even use. No person can hit 50+ on semi. Ramping, possibly. But still. The Pinokio is a great hopper. I want the one Mike has. lol. That or I'll buy me a Reloader B.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:08 PM

as working for techpb I was often selling stuff for Kohns behind the counter. When ever someone was looking at a pinokio i would just show them the thing running through water and they were sold.....i sold one to everybody i showed that lol.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:13 PM

I'm still debating which loader to get. I'm kind of thinking more about the pinokio. I don't need to feed at 50bps when my marker is always capped.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:35 PM

i don't care if the pinokio can run in water. i don't drop my gun anyway. the reason why i'm in love with the rotor is because there is little to no popcorning and it is extremely low profile. i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor. plus the fact that it is probably the easiest hopper out there to disassemble.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:49 PM

I would of yelled "Get a VL 200!"


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Posted 30 October 2008 - 11:27 PM

are you are pinokio accept speed feeds, if they dont that could be the end of it right there....but I do not know, but from the looks of it pinokio rides way to high for me to even think about..

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If your asking if the pinokio can accept speed feeds lol, the answer is yes. And you dont have to glue them on like you have to with the rotor.


I would rather get a rotor. The pinokio is uglier than hte rotor. and not as easy to take apart. I don't know why, which company would you trust NOT SPECIFIC! Dye or Pinoko? I rest my case, but yes funny story ;)


I forgot, the way something looks means its better!!!!!!! GOSH WHAT WAS I THINKING!!!!!!! And i dont know why everyone is so hyped up about taking the loaders apart!!!! With the pinokio no paint is going to break so you dont have to take it apart..... HMMMMM Just some food for thought... And if you got some dirt in there you can just use a can of compressed air to clean it out.. The front comes off so thats easy to clean... Wise up son!


i don't care if the pinokio can run in water. i don't drop my gun anyway. the reason why i'm in love with the rotor is because there is little to no popcorning and it is extremely low profile. i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor. plus the fact that it is probably the easiest hopper out there to disassemble.


When you say you dont care if the pinokio can run with water through it mean you have never played paintball in the rain.... And you obviously havent used a pinokio bc you would know the "no popcorning" feature your talking about holds true with the pinokio aswell. ANd since i know you have never played with one i cant really explain the profile to you.... Youll probably just say its huge and will assume it sticks out, continuing to talk and give opinions you have no idea about.....
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 06:31 AM

i like the fact that its all under warranty for 2 years.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 08:03 AM

Famous for now,

People will not trust you always. They always have to wonder and think someone is hiding and lying to them. They will see one at their field one day and wonder and once they use it they will be sold on it. I can confirm for you that Nicky and Mike both had issues with Youngblood over the fact that they refused to use the rotor. I was behind the booth when Mike came to get his. I missed Nicky but I did see him after he got it. Mike was a fan of the loader just as I am. It has proven to me that there is no loader that compares to the pinokio. So do not get bothered by the fact they doubt you. No one believed me about the water til I took it off my gun that I was going to play with the next day and did the demonstration. That is how much I believe in the loader and it's design.
Thank you for the story, I wanted to get a chance to watch Mike and Nicky playing with it but I did not get the chance. I was too busy making videos. Allow people to form their opinion on facts that they have no clue on. They will face the pinokio one day at their field and wonder why they got anything else.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 08:18 AM

interesting, I have a Vlo Jr. right now but wouldnt mind checking out a pinokio. Off to the proshop later

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 08:37 AM

Nice story, was actually wondering about what they where shooting, cause some of the Ironmen used the rotor.

How does the pinokio do with reballs? Thats very important to me, cuase trainings near me only use reballs.


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Posted 31 October 2008 - 10:38 AM

Kristoffer -

At the Angel tent they were having issues with loaders being able to shoot consistently, they cam by and tried the Pinokio and they never had a jam or issue after they switched to the Pinokio. So they allow anyone and everyone try the new Angel Fly with the Pinokio on it. It did awesome. SO you will be safe using the Pinokio.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 10:54 AM

Pinokio all the way I cant wait for mine to come in I just ordered one. The dye loads flimsier than the Pinokio and Paxon and Cuba are dye players and the go with the pinokio that tells you something. If you dont want the nose attachment you can give it to your gf I am sure she can find a good use for it. lol

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:14 AM

thx Willie, now im convinced to buying the pinokio instead of the rotor.


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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:31 AM

IVE BEEN REALLY SCEPTICLE ABOUT THE PINOKIO , BUT FROM HEARING ALL THE PROS AND BASICALLY NO CONS , I NOW MUST TRY ONE!
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:36 AM

i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor.


I've had mine for a couple months now and been to a ton of practices. I think I've been hit in the loader once or twice so far and both were right on the front. wouldn't have mattered what loader I was using. by loaning it out for people to use, there have been a bunch more being ordered and showing up at local fields. Once people use it, they love it.
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:52 AM

omg easye that was great hahahahahhahahahhahahahahaha

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 12:55 AM

IVE BEEN REALLY SCEPTICLE ABOUT THE PINOKIO , BUT FROM HEARING ALL THE PROS AND BASICALLY NO CONS , I NOW MUST TRY ONE!



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Posted 01 November 2008 - 01:06 AM

i like the conventional loaders (halo, reloader, pulse, pinokio) all these ones that use new feed seystems and crap are just not as reliable as the good old conventional loaders. like WOW the rotor can feed 50 bps but that wont help you wen you only ever use like 15 bps max.



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Posted 01 November 2008 - 02:32 AM

well i dont have either of them. but from what ive read i might try the pinokio....

for those who said that the rotor looks awezome and the pinokio looks ugly, IT MIGHT BE TRUE.

but im more concern about performance than how good i look on my paintball gear..



ive seen so many players that cant snapshoot or dont even know how to hold the marker, BUT i must say, they have a very beautifull gear on the.. they look awezome till u play agains them and u find out they are all looks xD


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Posted 01 November 2008 - 02:41 AM

i don't care if the pinokio can run in water. i don't drop my gun anyway. the reason why i'm in love with the rotor is because there is little to no popcorning and it is extremely low profile. i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor. plus the fact that it is probably the easiest hopper out there to disassemble.


so u dont drop ur gun.. that means u never dive or slide...

i dont see how u can play a real speedball match whitout doing that. but if thats the case ur right. u should get a rotor..

u probly dont even need kneepads or elbow pads, or slide shorts or any of those stuff...

if thats the case "AND I DONT SEE ANYTHING BAD WHIT THAT" i do understand why you would rather a rotor..

but for most players who play speedball they do need those stuff..

example! egos are the most sell ones for that same reason. they can take the hard work on them..

i have a dm and i love DMS, but must ppl want the ego for the same reason they would want a pinokio.

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 05:11 AM

Ok so i know everyone is siked about the new rotors. Shit i was blown away to. I was like wtf dye always takes it to the next level... Toolless disassembly.. Like how sick is that.


FYI, George Spurlock did the toolless disassembly thing last year with the Torque loader. At '07 WCO(or was that '06?) he couldn't keep them on the shelf. Dye simply took that portion of his innovation and put their name on it. ;)

I also checked out the pinokio loaders, it wasnt anything spectacular but the design is simple, tried, and true. It works great, durable, and holds 240 paintballs without the large nose on it (it holds 400 with the nose). Thats like 15 extra seconds you can hold a lane down without reloading.............


That phallic loader's been around for a while now. It's been at least a year if not longer the first time I heard it announced. Frankly they're a bit hideous looking. Kind of like a cross between an electronic sex toy and the creature in The Alien but I suppose whatever floats your boat lol.

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 09:17 AM

Plus the pinokio is cheaper.

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 09:59 AM

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 10:20 AM

I still like the low profile of the rotor and the looks. Yeah looks will always be secondary but maybe the pinokio will come out with a second version the looks a bit nicer (a bit on the ugly side). I still think ease of disassembly is a big plus for both of these loaders because even if the pinokio doesn't break paint you can still dump broken paint in there or get a hopper hit and have the paint break. The water thing is cool. I also wanted to remind whoever said you had to glue on a speedfeed, that the video stated dye would be making a speedfeed solution for it.

dye rotor will still compete with these 2 things:

Lower profile
Looks


If the rotor proves to be reliable over time,
I say get them both :-)


I'm all for standing behind a good product but some of you pinokio guys are getting a little carried away with your arguments and it comes off a little harsh.

That being said, the pinokio sounds like an EXCELENT hopper.
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 01:30 PM

I bought a pinokio hopper a month ago.
I'm from the Netherlands and I think I'm the only one here with the thing, but its great... my reloader B has become my backup hopper cause the pinokio is just great.

easy to clean, light, feeds like a mofo, doesnt break paint, nice layed back design (its ugly, but who the hell cares if it works (same goes for rocketships)).

I would recommend everyone to get a pinokio.. and for us europeans... its cheaper to get a pinokio from the US to us then buying a reloader B2/ magna / rotor in our own country.

The owner of pinokio hoppers actually send me an email a couple of weeks after I'd gotten in asking me if I liked the loader... really nice guy, great service, great product.

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 02:21 PM

people saying the pinkokio is ugly. just look at the jrny looks worse imo
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 02:42 PM

i don't care if the pinokio can run in water. i don't drop my gun anyway. the reason why i'm in love with the rotor is because there is little to no popcorning and it is extremely low profile. i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor. plus the fact that it is probably the easiest hopper out there to disassemble.

it might b the easiest 2 dissasemble but not the fkin easiest 2 clean...dont u get it...i can dump a glass of water through a pinokio n clean it...how is that not hard 2 clean...get a life chuck

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 03:59 PM

Thank you Famousfornow to being realistic, to be honest, i think alot of people just are obsessed with dye so they want a dye rotor, and everyone is like OMG it looks so sick, ya it looks pretty sweet, eventually they are gonna be like ions (no offense to them) but everyones got one, eventually they somehow arn't gonna be so sweet anymore, and last but not least, this is dyes first hopper, ya some with pinokio but at least thats what they specialize in, i guarantee theres gonna be some problems.

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 11:03 PM

Pinokio all the way I cant wait for mine to come in I just ordered one. The dye loads flimsier than the Pinokio and Paxon and Cuba are dye players and the go with the pinokio that tells you something. If you dont want the nose attachment you can give it to your gf I am sure she can find a good use for it. lol

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 11:32 PM

2 mor things.
ok so i was checking out some rotor vids and i was pretty sold on it. but then i realized reall who is gonna need 50 bps. just like above the rotor has just come out, i wouldnt be surprized if they turn out like the minis.

now about the pinikio, i like the looks of the pinokio. the rotor is pretty too but what changed me from the rotor to the pinikio, is you can run water through it. 1 if u drop it in a river or a stream it wont break. 2 you can clean it doing that.
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:47 AM

now about the pinikio, i like the looks of the pinokio. the rotor is pretty too but what changed me from the rotor to the pinikio, is you can run water through it. 1 if u drop it in a river or a stream it wont break. 2 you can clean it doing that.



Whats with all this dropping it in water crap? :blink: No matter which one, if you drop a hopper in water youre sol since the paint inside is contaminated and stuck together. Ive been playing paintball for over 20 years and never had the inclination to immerse a hopper in water much less clutz enough to drop one in a stream of water. This sounds like candy coated hype. Next thing is youll be saying you ran it over with a truck(sound familiar?)

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 01:50 AM

Famous for now,

People will not trust you always. They always have to wonder and think someone is hiding and lying to them. They will see one at their field one day and wonder and once they use it they will be sold on it. I can confirm for you that Nicky and Mike both had issues with Youngblood over the fact that they refused to use the rotor. I was behind the booth when Mike came to get his. I missed Nicky but I did see him after he got it. Mike was a fan of the loader just as I am. It has proven to me that there is no loader that compares to the pinokio. So do not get bothered by the fact they doubt you. No one believed me about the water til I took it off my gun that I was going to play with the next day and did the demonstration. That is how much I believe in the loader and it's design.
Thank you for the story, I wanted to get a chance to watch Mike and Nicky playing with it but I did not get the chance. I was too busy making videos. Allow people to form their opinion on facts that they have no clue on. They will face the pinokio one day at their field and wonder why they got anything else.

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I can see why Dave youngblood got mad at them for not using them I mean his company does pay out out of the ass to sponser that team. And it is a Dye team. They use everything Dye head to toe. There is one player that uses a PM8 and a few use Proto packs but it is still Dye just not the name stamped on it. That would be the only thing that they use that does not directly say Dye on it. And maybe a few Halos and reloaders but the whole team is Dye all the way. I can see why Dave got pissed because it is a new product and they did not wanna rep them even tho they pay them.

You cannot do that in a sport. If your sponser is paying you and your team to rep a product you should do it or you will see problems for yourself in your professinal career in any sport. I mean come on. Do you think MJ would tell Nike in an NBA championship that he just does not FEEL like wearing his Nikes? yah. You would be pissed off too.

AND the only reason why the did not wanna use them was the rain thing. But it could of been fixed if they just taped up the rotors on the side I bet.

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 01:57 AM

So is everyone on this board a pinokio salesmens?



hhaha. NO shit right... I am sorry Techpb crew but eventho they are your sponsers you guys are just a tad bit too bias. I love the shit you guys do for us but that is one thing that erks me when I click on a JRNY or Rotor topic there is 99.9 times out of 100 that a TechPB crew will say the Pinokio is just better and they should get it...I do have to admit that some of you guys are trying too hard to get the Pinokio known and out there. Just let it be for a little bit, instead of shoving it down ppls throats( or threads) It Sorta gives the hopper a bad name IMHO. And makes me just not wanna try it because the other hoppers were not even tried or given a chance at all yet.

JUST me 2 cents guys. Not being neg or anything or hating towards the hopper, I just hope you understand this as I am an extremly opinionated person. Thanks.

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 02:34 AM

A.Tech, I agree totally. I for one will always be convinced with facts that don't sound so biased. I'm very convinced of the hoppers quality, but I don't think it means that no other hopper out there will ever be better or have just certain aspects of it be better. Like hands down the pinokio is an ugly hopper and is on the larger size. The whole point of having options though it what pros outweigh the cons. Just because a certain aspect isn't important to you doesn't mean you have the right to bark someone down because it's important to them. Like even as I write this I fear the wrath of the pinokio gang :-) It's good to constantly re evaluate things and be open to the idea that other companies might be able to make good products too.
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 07:12 AM

A.Tech, I agree totally. I for one will always be convinced with facts that don't sound so biased. I'm very convinced of the hoppers quality, but I don't think it means that no other hopper out there will ever be better or have just certain aspects of it be better. Like hands down the pinokio is an ugly hopper and is on the larger size. The whole point of having options though it what pros outweigh the cons. Just because a certain aspect isn't important to you doesn't mean you have the right to bark someone down because it's important to them. Like even as I write this I fear the wrath of the pinokio gang :-) It's good to constantly re evaluate things and be open to the idea that other companies might be able to make good products too.


lol I know right but don't worry we will team up together against the Pinokio gang. WE will be strong a whole 2 ppl vs. The TechPB crew and everyone that has a Pinokio which is like another 4 people... lmao....

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 09:08 PM

hhaha. NO shit right... I am sorry Techpb crew but eventho they are your sponsers you guys are just a tad bit too bias. I love the shit you guys do for us but that is one thing that erks me when I click on a JRNY or Rotor topic there is 99.9 times out of 100 that a TechPB crew will say the Pinokio is just better and they should get it...I do have to admit that some of you guys are trying too hard to get the Pinokio known and out there. Just let it be for a little bit, instead of shoving it down ppls throats( or threads) It Sorta gives the hopper a bad name IMHO. And makes me just not wanna try it because the other hoppers were not even tried or given a chance at all yet.

JUST me 2 cents guys. Not being neg or anything or hating towards the hopper, I just hope you understand this as I am an extremly opinionated person. Thanks.



Whats funny is im not part of the "Techpb Crew" lol. I was just at cup and thought i would share a story. You know how ppl say they can shoot their tippmans under water, and how some guy got mad bc he got shot off the break and threw his ego like 10 ft in the air and nothing happened to it. If i could be honest, i think ppl are a little surprised that a hopper is getting so much feedback. Like before a hopper was just a hopper. They were dime a dozen. But now this one actually gives ppl something to talk about. Times change and paintball changes, ppl talk about different things. The guns arent really getting any different and any new innovation or great gun is talked about. The same goes with this hopper. But yeah man im not even with the techpb crew. Im flattered you think i am but im just a regular guy crusing the forums like everyone else ( minus the mods).


A.Tech, I agree totally. I for one will always be convinced with facts that don't sound so biased. I'm very convinced of the hoppers quality, but I don't think it means that no other hopper out there will ever be better or have just certain aspects of it be better. Like hands down the pinokio is an ugly hopper and is on the larger size. The whole point of having options though it what pros outweigh the cons. Just because a certain aspect isn't important to you doesn't mean you have the right to bark someone down because it's important to them. Like even as I write this I fear the wrath of the pinokio gang :-) It's good to constantly re evaluate things and be open to the idea that other companies might be able to make good products too.


I dont mean to come off as rude or anything but did you read the story? Haha I said i liked the rotors, and the pinokios. But after seeing what had happened and experiencing a little bit of that myself with my halo (havent shot with a rotor) ive decided pinokios are looking like the better product. So i came here to express that. Just like DM's ill stand by DM's all day everyday... Why? Bc i think they are better. I just love them. They are such sick guns. Although they are a bit tempermental, i woulnt give them up for anything else. And like shockers (aswell as smartparts), i hate them. I owned a shocker and it was the worst gun of my life. The thing had probs every other weeknd. It was good when it worked but it was way to much hassel for my likings. And like i said before lol im not part of the techpb crew. Although i doubt youll believe me bc everyone probably thinks this is some form of advertisement or some form of me trying to shove the idea of pinokios down ppls throats. I really dont care what you shoot at the end of the day. Im just expressing my opinion and thought of a product. So yeah man, have no fear i dont think there is a pinokio gang so you shoulnt be worried about them unleashing their wrath upon you. So i leave with this quote! A wise wise man once said! "It's good to constantly re evaluate things and be open to the idea that other companies might be able to make good products too.".... Wait wasnt that you?
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 01:42 AM

Hey man I totally agree the Pinokio sounds like a bad ass product. I'm just trying to get people to lighten up. Just read some of the Rotor vs Pinokio threads, It just seems like people are taking it a little too fare that's all. I think Rotor deserves some respect for some of their innovative features and I think the same goes for Pinokio. I'm glad you posted your story about what happened at Cup in the Ironman pits, it's really good to know, I am still concerned that the Rotor might not be all it's cracked up to be I just don't like it when people stomp on it before they have even used it or had a chance to see it in person. Your last post was well written and I respect that. It comments like having to tape on a speedfeed that gets annoying when if you watch the vid they say Dye will come out with a speedfeed solution. There's a point where you stand behind a product because you like it and respect, it's whole other level when the biased views turns into "not so true" comments just to win an argument. Sorry I'm getting all pissy about this, I just want to make the point to keep the comments real. This is me "re-evaluating" what I said. Not all my comments were directed at you either, I was kind of ranting from other threads as well.
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 10:03 AM

Or you could save a bundle of money and assuming you don't want/need the extra rounds buy an apache for $40.

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Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:02 AM

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Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:54 AM

Hey man I totally agree the Pinokio sounds like a bad ass product. I'm just trying to get people to lighten up. Just read some of the Rotor vs Pinokio threads, It just seems like people are taking it a little too fare that's all. I think Rotor deserves some respect for some of their innovative features and I think the same goes for Pinokio. I'm glad you posted your story about what happened at Cup in the Ironman pits, it's really good to know, I am still concerned that the Rotor might not be all it's cracked up to be I just don't like it when people stomp on it before they have even used it or had a chance to see it in person. Your last post was well written and I respect that. It comments like having to tape on a speedfeed that gets annoying when if you watch the vid they say Dye will come out with a speedfeed solution. There's a point where you stand behind a product because you like it and respect, it's whole other level when the biased views turns into "not so true" comments just to win an argument. Sorry I'm getting all pissy about this, I just want to make the point to keep the comments real. This is me "re-evaluating" what I said. Not all my comments were directed at you either, I was kind of ranting from other threads as well.



Haha yeah i get what your saying about ppl saying things just so they make a product look cooler or edgier. But im not a fan of hype at all, which is why i didnt really believe the owner in the first place when he said Mike Paxson and Nicky Cuba wanted to shoot the pinokio instead of the rotor. I was like thats cool, but when i actually heard them like telling their team mates to get one i was like.... wow, he was right. Because even if the guy was paying me some cash, i wouldnt have to fake i liked the hopper or advertise to my bros, and it sounded genuine all together. And i can understand how you get frustrated when ppl dis a product that they havent even tried, which is why i decided to share this story in the first place. The pinokio is hated on by alot of ppl, and not alot of ppl have them, or have even used them, so it got on my nerves when ppl would say dumn stuff like "its ugly" or "its based off the fasta, so it sucks!". Like the only thing from the fasta it uses, is the little membrane that "feels" the paintballs. So i guess were in the same boat trying to give balance to the world of paintball product opinions. I think its funny how we were on opposite sides but have the same ideas behind our actions. Im still standing the the Pinokio until the rotor or any other hopper for that matter changes my mind. But from what i have heard.... Evan has got some sick stuff on the way, so just be ready to have pinokio brand hoppers marvled at alot.... No exageration or hype in that statement either. Well anyways CUP WAS SICK! I saw alot of neat stuff, and you guys should check out the new virtue oled boards aswell. Another product i witnessed which was sick. No story on that besides the guy giving me a demonstration on how it worked and the future aspects of it.
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Posted 10 November 2008 - 10:51 PM

idk wat the crap u guys are talking about, i've played through snow and rain and sleet with my halo, performs amazing. I own a pinokio, performs amazing in rain, haven't tried it in any other weather. by far, the halo is the best looking in my opinion and the rotor looks like a kidz toy from power rangers.

MY OPINION- someone tell empire to make a new line of magna that looks like a suicide halo or warrior halo with toolless disasembly and a membrain pad instead of eyes. basically a pinokio with the clutch system inside a halo...i wouldn't mind paying 250 for it since i paid 150 on a pinokio.
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:53 AM

il stick with the conventional brands like empire. any word on the new prophecy loader?
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 01:41 PM

i got the pinokio at cup, we had a horrible time with our paint XO. it was blending in hoppers and guns however the pinokio did not break any paint in the hopper my gun how ever was a different story but thats not the loaders fault

but the thing that most impressed me abt the pinokio was the way it feeds reballs. i run my own indoor reball facility and if uve ever played reball b4 the best thing u could use was an empire b b2 or pulse and ude still have a jam every couple pods. since returning from cup ive used the pinokio at least 4 times a week in reball weather it be drills or playing and have not had a single jam on the SAME set of batterys from world cup
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 05:29 PM

I agree the Pinokio sounds great but how can u say that there are problems with the rotor. I love mine and I have no problems with it, I dont understand how some of you get off saying that there are going to be problems and that its like an ion. We are talking about Dye, they always make great quality products how can u doubt them.
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