thanks for all the help and insights into the guns but i found a pretty good priced redz ion for $159. unless the redz ion has a big problem with it i think that is what i may be settling on.
what does that ion come with? because youll deff want one with a freak barrel, low rise clamping feedneck, and ASA on off, thos things would mae the redz ion a good starter marker. (posted link to 5 different colors of the kits that include all that in an earlier post)
i found the redz ion off the link you gave in an earlier post. And just for convicne for me can anyone give a pro con list of the vibe and redz ion. because if the vibe is not horribly expensive to upgrade and works just as well as the redz ion then it seems practicel to purchace the vibew over the redz ion.