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In Topic: Smart Parts Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

23 June 2010 - 08:47 AM

Sorry, Tom Kaye said it wasn't because of the royalities.


well, show me where i can read this because it's a very common misconception, and i'd really like to think that the real reason is a good one.

In Topic: Smart Parts Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

22 June 2010 - 11:30 PM







Smart Parts once was one of the first company's to offer a tournament level marker at a entry level price. It helped boost alot of growth in the community. Maybe most of you are too young to remember that.



and which gun would that be? the ion? i think you missed about 10 other entry level tournament guns that came before it, they just wernt as popular.



Yes, but I said that "one" of the first.



Now was this before or after they started those patent wars that still to this day have crippled innovation in the paintball marketplace?

I've been around the game longer than you think :dodgy:




I dont think it crippled innovation, if they didnt enforce thier patents then there would have just been a bunch of coppies of the same thing. any company has the right to copyright their inventions

now, wether or not smart parts "invented" the idea to use electronics in paintball guns is very debatable, though they were certainly one of the first if not the first.

im just glad they might survive, they really had some quality material with the vibe, sp1, and the new nxt shockers, plus Dlx relies on smart parts for manufacturing facilities.



Lets put it this way, lets say Dangerous Power doesn't allow anyone to use their clamping feedneck design anymore. Does that not hurt the paintball industry as a whole?
When one company has a monopoly on a certain design there is no drive to improve it because there is no competition. Those lawsuits drove good companies out of business, companies that could have come up with the next big step in paintball. This is how innovation was hurt.

I understand the companies right to safeguard their inventions...when they invented it. Like you said, smartpart's claims to these designs is very debatable.

I hope they do survive, its always good to have another paintball company that gives back to the community. I just hope they learn from their poor business tactics


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit with your Smart Parts hate about patents. Please. Show me a single patent they have that has lead a company not to produce a gun? You won't. Know why. They do the patent so they can make money. The reason a company is no longer in existence is because they don't want to pay to use the patents another company owns. That is their own fault. If you don't want to pay a patent, go to another country and copy the patent and sell it there, or figure out a new design. End of story. They would be retarded not to patent anything. What sucks is when big companies like Toyota steal a patent from a small company and sell it and the government doesn't do anything about it to stop sales in the USA of that product. But oh well. I guess that company isn't going to get any money they deserve.


if you want an example of a gun not produced because of the patent: E-mag. one of the best guns ever manufactured Imo. now a historical relic. thank you smart parts



You sir are incorrect....

... except that AGD didn't want to pay the fees out of principle, or some sutch rubbish, personally i would have just given them their nickel and dime to keep producing my supereor product. i'm not sure of the exact reasoning, but AGD didn't want to pay the rights so they stopped manufacturing their gun.

if i am indeed incorrect, you will have to present some kind of proof. any fact about AGD not producing the E-mag because of ANY other reason will suffice in my mind, i am not closed to the idea.

BUT,at any rate, they are still really DALEKS!file:///tmp/moz-screenshot.pngPosted Image

In Topic: Smart Parts Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

22 June 2010 - 10:16 AM





Smart Parts once was one of the first company's to offer a tournament level marker at a entry level price. It helped boost alot of growth in the community. Maybe most of you are too young to remember that.



and which gun would that be? the ion? i think you missed about 10 other entry level tournament guns that came before it, they just wernt as popular.



Yes, but I said that "one" of the first.



Now was this before or after they started those patent wars that still to this day have crippled innovation in the paintball marketplace?

I've been around the game longer than you think :dodgy:




I dont think it crippled innovation, if they didnt enforce thier patents then there would have just been a bunch of coppies of the same thing. any company has the right to copyright their inventions

now, wether or not smart parts "invented" the idea to use electronics in paintball guns is very debatable, though they were certainly one of the first if not the first.

im just glad they might survive, they really had some quality material with the vibe, sp1, and the new nxt shockers, plus Dlx relies on smart parts for manufacturing facilities.



Lets put it this way, lets say Dangerous Power doesn't allow anyone to use their clamping feedneck design anymore. Does that not hurt the paintball industry as a whole?
When one company has a monopoly on a certain design there is no drive to improve it because there is no competition. Those lawsuits drove good companies out of business, companies that could have come up with the next big step in paintball. This is how innovation was hurt.

I understand the companies right to safeguard their inventions...when they invented it. Like you said, smartpart's claims to these designs is very debatable.

I hope they do survive, its always good to have another paintball company that gives back to the community. I just hope they learn from their poor business tactics


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit with your Smart Parts hate about patents. Please. Show me a single patent they have that has lead a company not to produce a gun? You won't. Know why. They do the patent so they can make money. The reason a company is no longer in existence is because they don't want to pay to use the patents another company owns. That is their own fault. If you don't want to pay a patent, go to another country and copy the patent and sell it there, or figure out a new design. End of story. They would be retarded not to patent anything. What sucks is when big companies like Toyota steal a patent from a small company and sell it and the government doesn't do anything about it to stop sales in the USA of that product. But oh well. I guess that company isn't going to get any money they deserve.


if you want an example of a gun not produced because of the patent: E-mag. one of the best guns ever manufactured Imo. now a historical relic. thank you smart parts

In Topic: Smart Parts Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

22 June 2010 - 10:06 AM





Smart Parts once was one of the first company's to offer a tournament level marker at a entry level price. It helped boost alot of growth in the community. Maybe most of you are too young to remember that.



and which gun would that be? the ion? i think you missed about 10 other entry level tournament guns that came before it, they just wernt as popular.



Yes, but I said that "one" of the first.



Now was this before or after they started those patent wars that still to this day have crippled innovation in the paintball marketplace?

I've been around the game longer than you think :dodgy:




I dont think it crippled innovation, if they didnt enforce thier patents then there would have just been a bunch of coppies of the same thing. any company has the right to copyright their inventions

now, wether or not smart parts "invented" the idea to use electronics in paintball guns is very debatable, though they were certainly one of the first if not the first.

im just glad they might survive, they really had some quality material with the vibe, sp1, and the new nxt shockers, plus Dlx relies on smart parts for manufacturing facilities.



Lets put it this way, lets say Dangerous Power doesn't allow anyone to use their clamping feedneck design anymore. Does that not hurt the paintball industry as a whole?
When one company has a monopoly on a certain design there is no drive to improve it because there is no competition. Those lawsuits drove good companies out of business, companies that could have come up with the next big step in paintball. This is how innovation was hurt.

I understand the companies right to safeguard their inventions...when they invented it. Like you said, smartpart's claims to these designs is very debatable.

I hope they do survive, its always good to have another paintball company that gives back to the community. I just hope they learn from their poor business tactics


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit with your Smart Parts hate about patents. Please. Show me a single patent they have that has lead a company not to produce a gun? You won't. Know why. They do the patent so they can make money. The reason a company is no longer in existence is because they don't want to pay to use the patents another company owns. That is their own fault. If you don't want to pay a patent, go to another country and copy the patent and sell it there, or figure out a new design. End of story. They would be retarded not to patent anything. What sucks is when big companies like Toyota steal a patent from a small company and sell it and the government doesn't do anything about it to stop sales in the USA of that product. But oh well. I guess that company isn't going to get any money they deserve.


if you want an example of a gun not produced because of the patent: E-mag. one of the best guns ever manufactured Imo. now a historical relic. thank you smart parts

In Topic: Smart Parts Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

22 June 2010 - 09:23 AM



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because they're secretly DALEKS!


double fixed for ya :tup:


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