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Calculus Master

Member Since 12 Sep 2010
Offline Last Active Feb 23 2011 05:10 PM
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Clone vs Geo2

05 February 2011 - 09:57 AM

I'm looking at getting a high end spoolie, and I've narrowed it down to these three markers. I've shot a geo+ and a clone and liked the clone more, but how is it compared to the geo2? Also, how is the vx clone compared to the geo2 and regular clone?

Guide to Reball

01 February 2011 - 02:42 PM

I have noticed that a lot of people are asking questions about reball, specifically what hopper to use, so I decided to write this guide up. Please feel free to suggest something that I missed.

1) What is reball?

Reball is paintball. At a well run field all of the rules should be the same as when playing with paint. However there are two main differences. The first is obvious, when playing reball, you are using reballs. For those who don't know, reballs are foam and rubber .68 caliber balls designed to simulate paint, without the mess. Since you are using reballs, you don't need to worry about chopping, barrel breaks, or bounces. If you get hit, you are out, no need to worry about if it bounced. Many people worry that it leads to increased cheating, which I'll admit can be a problem. However, if the field is run well, refs will call out cheaters, or, if they don't listen, shoot them. The cheapness of playing reball, in my mind, makes up for the cheaters because it doesn't cost me any extra to shoot them a few extra times. Also, since reballs are reusable, you usually only pay for a session, possibly air, and rentals if you need it. This is great because you are not limited by the cost of paint, and can shoot as much as you want. The second main difference with playing reballs, is chronoing your marker. Since reballs don't break, shooting your marker at 300 fps would be worse than shooting monster balls. Therefor you chrono your gun to between 190 to 220 fps, depending on your field. With new markers, especially spools, this can be a problem, but since you don't pay for paint, you can sit in a corner and shoot until your gun is broken in.

2) Types of reballs:

Many companies have started making reballs since they first came out. Below I'll discuss the pros and cons of the different brands.

Reball: Company that coined the term reball, it was one of the first companies to push the idea of reusable paintballs. The original reballs needed to be lubricated, however the newer ones don't. Instead they have a coating on them that wears off over time. When the coating wears off, or they get really dirty, they'll start sticking together, which is the only thing I have ever seen jam a pinokio. I think the bore size is around .685, but they'll get smaller as they are used more.

A-balls: My favorite brand, this is what my field is switching to. Unlike the reball brand, these are made completely out of the slick material instead of just being coated with it. They stay usable longer and don't gunk up like the reball brand does. Their bore is smaller than a reball, probably around .681 if not .679.

I'll add more brands if people can tell me about them, this is all I have used. I'll also update the bore size when I find out for sure.

3) Equipment:

A. Markers:

Any marker will work with reballs, however there are a few thinks to keep in mind. First, on blow back markers such as Azodin's and Spyder's, you might need to cut the spring in order to get the exit velocity low enough. The cut spring should go back up to 300 fps, but the full spring will not go all the way down to 200 fps. Second, detents. If you have detents such as and Ego's or a Clones, you will have to replace them eventually. The rubber ego style detents get especially beat up, and it is essential that you oil your detent slots every time before you play. If you have a PE marker and will play a lot of reball, consider getting the kila detent kits for your marker. Also keep in mind that reballs are generally harder on your marker, so maitenence can be a bigger issue.

B. Hoppers: This will probably be the most important part of the guide. Remember that these reviews are based solely on how they work with reballs.

Pinokio:
The greatest reball loader ever, period. Mine has jammed a total of three times, all of them were because of old dirty reballs, and all were fixed by turning my hopper upside down and shaking. If you want to know anything else about the loader, go read a hopper review.

Rotor: Probably one of the worst reball loaders, it even says it doesn't work with them in the manuel. Most people with rotors give up on them for reball after about 2 or 3 games.

Prophecy: I haven't seen much of these, however they don't work extremely well.

V-max: I know it hasn't come out yet, but it doesn't work. My field owner's valken rep told him that they tested it with A-balls with no success. I'll confirm this when it comes out.

Halo hoppers: For reball, garbage. Using a shake and shoot is prefferable to one of these.

Evlution: Also known as eggy's due to the shape. These work great with reballs. If you are looking for a cheap hopper for reball try to pick up one of these used. They are extremely awkward, but relatively cheap, and they work well.

Fasta: Like the pinokio, but not as good. I would either save money and buy and eggy or spend more on the pinokio.

Other Viewloaders: Not very sure on these, for some people they work great, others, not so great. If you have one, you can probably get away with using it, but if you are going to play a lot, get an eggy, fasta, or pinokio.

Gravity: Its a shake and shoot, same as with paint. The Primo does work pretty well though.

Other hoppers: The extreme rage overdrive works supprisingly well on mech guns. I wouldn't buy it new though, and would probably get the primo instead.

I'll add more as I learn more.

C. Other equipment:

You are playing paintball, other than hoppers everything works the same. I would recomend HPA instead of CO2 though.

4) Fields:

Give me your reball fields so that others can find a place to play.

Oklahoma:
1Up Paintball in Enid: The field I go to, currently $17.50 for a three hour session including air and rentals. There is another field in Enid, however it is more expensive, badly ran, and the field is tiny, so I won't name it.

Illinois:
Xtreme Plex in Chicago: $20, Thanks to Alted4.

Missouri:
Paint Games Plus in Springfield: Thank you to Darth Vader.

Conclusion:

If you are on a budget, reball is a great option. If you do play, be honest, its more fun that way. If someone is cheating, tell the ref, and shoot them some more, you aren't paying for paint. Reball is a great way to get ready for a tournament and practice as a team, because it lets you save money, giving you more to buy paint and enter tournaments. Reball also lets you play year round without dealing with weather. Let me know if I left anything out, and hopefully this will help people save some money.

Spool Guns

30 January 2011 - 08:39 PM

At my field today, I tried out a MacDev Clone and fell in love. I am wanting to switch to a spool valve marker, but I am wondering if I should save for the clone, or get something else. I have an etek 3 and do not want to downgrade so what other options are there.

Rayovac Batteries

25 January 2011 - 10:22 PM

Does anyone know if Rayovac batteries work well with paintball markers and hoppers? I was at walmart today, and three Rayovac 9 volts cost the same as two Duracells or Energizers.

Used Bob Long Guns

23 January 2011 - 09:18 PM

I am looking for a used, quality marker around $200 to $300 to use as a backup. I was thinking a marq, protoge, or alias, or possibly an older ego. I'm newer to the sport and would like to know the differences between the three bob long markers listed above as well as ego 6's, 7's, and 8's. I would also like comparisons to the etek 3 LT (my current marker). Thorough, well thought out answers are appreciated. Don't just post links to your b/s/t posts, I'll make my way over to that part of the forum when I get the money. Thanks in advance.