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Zorozeenee

Member Since 23 Mar 2011
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In Topic: what jogging really does

13 April 2012 - 05:28 PM

Well mike himself posted here and agreed with me, lokk for yourself

In Topic: Thunder Bay Police getting hard on paintball locally

08 April 2012 - 01:19 PM

Maybe if everyone had gotten speedball markers instead of woods ball markers this shit wouldnt happen

In Topic: Mil-sim player arrested

08 April 2012 - 01:09 PM

This is how most outside people view paintball, a bunch of idiots in army gear in the woods. Milsim has put a pretty bad view on paintball.

In Topic: what jogging really does

08 April 2012 - 01:00 PM

Read the articles again. Not one says don't jog, they all say don't excessive jog. In fact two of them pretty clearly say to do cardio, including jogging.

No, its saying jog if ur in decent or bad shape. But if your in good shape it may get rid of muscle tissue

OP is straight up dumb. cardio is not this catabolic muscle eating machine. prolonged moderate intensity cardio is what is best for fat loss.

the reason your trainer lost muscle tissue is because he wasn't taking in enough calories to compensate for the extra activity he was doing. if you don't want to lose your muscle tissue while doing cardio, up your protein and complex carb intake.

Please cite your sources again all 3 of my sources say cardio removes muscle mass if ur already in good shape

In Topic: what jogging really does

05 April 2012 - 05:03 PM

A lot of claims in this thread without any science.

Let's back up a touch. To think that at any one point in time your body is burning anything exclusively as a fuel source is nonsensical- everyone, regardless of how much they know about human endocrinology, can wrap their heads around this. You're never burning just fat or just muscle tissue or just glucose from the toast you had for breakfast. You're always burning some combination of the food you've eaten, your own body fat, ketone bodies (usually in transient amounts, but still) and, on occasion, muscle tissue.

You can look at lab measures of respiratory quotient to verify this- after a night's sleep, most peoples RQ lies between .80 and .84. An RQ of .69 is pure fat metabolism, and RQ of 1.0 is pure glucose. After a starch and sugar heavy meal you're probably in the .90 to .94 range, but you're still burning some body fat. Whether or not you're adding back even more is irrelevant to the fact that some is always being burned.

The next thing to consider is that jogging, even if it's for an hour or more, is inconsequential to the hormones in your body that actually regulate whether or not you lose fat. Weight loss is much more than a matter of energy balance- it's about your fasting insulin, your blood sugar, your thyroid hormones, etc. To think that some jogging a few times a week would have a meaningful effect absent dietary change is like think that you can permanently keep your heart rate at 180bpm just by running for half an hour. Yes, it elevates for a few minutes, but then homeostasis takes over. The running was inconsequential. Eat a bowl of oatmeal 30 minutes before your run and guess what you're burning? Oatmeal. Not muscle, not fat, not any statistically significant amount at least.

"It's science, google it" is not proof of a concept. Anyone who offers you that explanation and won't explain it to you themselves is probably wrong. Doesn't matter if you're talking about nutrition or astrophysics- if someone tells you "I just know, it's been proven", they're probably full of shit.


would u mind reading the thread, jogging will remove muscle mass if you are in already good shape and do more than just light cardio.