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In Topic: EMPIRE AXE VS PLANET ECLIPSE ETEK 4

22 June 2013 - 07:21 PM





Explain to me a scenario where the frame bending prevents an injury. How would you arm be positioned and bent that the frames give would protect you?

The frame takes the shock so it bends before it continues to any other point. Look up why crush zones exist that is the basic idea.

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That's not how an injury works. <_</>/>/>/>/>/>/>

If you land with enough force to bend a piece of aluminum and that force is exerted on any part of your hand or wrist you ARE going to have an injury. Crumple zones are for impacts, not torsion. It's a completely different concept. It's not like the bending of the aluminum is preventing your arm from bending. Even if you were somehow GLUED to the marker it would do nothing. If someone twists my arm with a massive amount of force while I hold an aluminum bar it won't matter if that bar bends - my arm is fucked.

If they bend the bar, aka the frame, and that bar is designed to break when a certain amount of force is applied it would break before you arm breaks. Not saying you would walk a way scratch free but it is better than a fractured arm.

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Um, in what way would there ever be a situation like that while playing paintball anyway? How would you ever dive that somehow your markers gripframe would not bend and you would be injured. It would simply turn in your hand or you'd be applying force in a a direction where it wouldn't matter.

The amount of time that it happens is less than second that the forces travels it finds the weakest point. Also crumple zone is an example of a component design to deform for protection.

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In Topic: EMPIRE AXE VS PLANET ECLIPSE ETEK 4

22 June 2013 - 06:54 PM



Explain to me a scenario where the frame bending prevents an injury. How would you arm be positioned and bent that the frames give would protect you?

The frame takes the shock so it bends before it continues to any other point. Look up why crush zones exist that is the basic idea.

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That's not how an injury works. <_</>/>/>/>

If you land with enough force to bend a piece of aluminum and that force is exerted on any part of your hand or wrist you ARE going to have an injury. Crumple zones are for impacts, not torsion. It's a completely different concept. It's not like the bending of the aluminum is preventing your arm from bending. Even if you were somehow GLUED to the marker it would do nothing. If someone twists my arm with a massive amount of force while I hold an aluminum bar it won't matter if that bar bends - my arm is fucked.

If they bend the bar, aka the frame, and that bar is designed to break when a certain amount of force is applied it would break before you arm breaks. Not saying you would walk a way scratch free but it is better than a fractured arm.

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In Topic: EMPIRE AXE VS PLANET ECLIPSE ETEK 4

22 June 2013 - 06:28 PM

Explain to me a scenario where the frame bending prevents an injury. How would you arm be positioned and bent that the frames give would protect you?

The frame takes the shock so it bends before it continues to any other point. Look up why crush zones exist that is the basic idea.

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In Topic: EMPIRE AXE VS PLANET ECLIPSE ETEK 4

22 June 2013 - 06:06 PM



Oh no I'm sure they did. Does that matter when you're talking about reliability or so called "durability".

Actually, yes. Put a car into an accident and you'll have much the same result. Also like a car, after the accident, you replace the body panels/grip frame with a new one and you're still in good shape.

I've not heard cars called "non-durable" because they deform when placed in extreme situations. Now if you've bought a shitty car, that's another issue.

Comparing it to cars is a whole different matter. By this logic, we should have padding on the entire gun and plush bouncy castles to play in because a few idiots didn't know how to run or one broke his jaw because he raised his gun too quickly and the tank hit him.

On cars there these thing called crush zones that stop the impact so you don't fly though the windshield or snap you neck from the impact. Same idea the frame takes the impact so your wrist doesn't. I have seen people take a bad drive gun first the gun came out fine but their wrist had fine breaks. I would rather my frame bend and PE replace it than me paying out of pocket and be un able to use my hand for weeks.

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In Topic: EMPIRE AXE VS PLANET ECLIPSE ETEK 4

20 June 2013 - 10:52 PM


Axes are meh. Some people really do love them, but most people who recommend them are bandwagoners wanting to impress or something. Honestly, unless you absolutely require a spool like gun, the etek will be a nicer option. tune it right and it shoots like an untuned axe from what i hear. Also eteks are probably a bit more durable/reliable than axes. stacked tube poppets never go down ever, especially eteks. they are basically the Tippmann of speedball markers (lets ignore the crossover for a moment)

Lol eclipse frames are infamous for breaking and twisting. Reliability? Who cares? They work if you maintain them. And maintaining them is easy.

Better than the shock of the impact going to your wrist, or elbow. They did it for safely reasons.

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