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Jack Rice

Member Since 01 Dec 2008
Offline Last Active May 12 2015 11:38 AM

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In Topic: New gun from Alien paintball: Deception

08 May 2015 - 12:14 PM

On the trigger if you hold your hand out like you are holding a grip frame and pulling he trigger i think you will notice that you index finger moves more than your middle finger. You index finger is better at moving more forward and you middle finger stays more gripped. So the trigger moves out in the middle.

However we have had enough comment that we may have less curve in the bottom half to bottom third - so it pulls the same but looks different.


Similar  to how we designed the trigger guard.The front grip is thinner than many front grips. The distance to the guard is then set so that you wrap your fingers (not fingers and palm) around the front grip.

When you have your fingers around the front grip - index finger around front cap, your palm will then naturally rest against the trigger guard. When you shoot - a player will  normally have a tighter grip on their front hand and a looser grip on their back hand. The front hand's - finger and palm - then pushes the grip frame into you back hand. This gives you a more controlled grip than a post grip.

IMO it's way many player like to hold onto the barrel of spool guns, not just because they can - rather having one vertical grip and one horizontal gives more control.

Nevertheless I feel that the finger grip and palm press is superior to the barrel and frame grip.

Double stacked players like the Deception grip right away, some spool players have become very used to the barrel grip, so unless they really give it a try they prefer the barrel grip . 

In Topic: New gun from Alien paintball: Deception

07 May 2015 - 09:49 AM

Is there an release date? Price? I might have skipped over it.

I haven't heard yet from the machine shop - they have the prints and are ready to go.

The thing is that with something like this, once the scheduling gets done the parts are done right afterwards.

This is an easy one for us. They made the valve before. This one just has a bigger base - so more machine time to cut off the extra material around the end where the air feeds.

Plus any kind of a plastic - usually called Delrin but sometimes it's POM - while it is faster to cut than stainless you have to have somebody constantly at that machine. That's because the material comes off in long threads that build up quickly - everywhere. Stainless falls into the bottom of the machine and the machine can just make thousands of them all by itself, even overnight. But with plastic somebody needs to be pulling out the material or it can catch fire. Therefore more cutting time on the body, plus more man time for the hammers means these cost a little more to make.

The are on the website now at $89 and we are thinking 3 weeks

In Topic: New gun from Alien paintball: Deception

04 May 2015 - 02:08 PM

I'm sorry to see that things got so slow - think things just got too negative and hate killed things a bit.

I just wrote to Mike asking if he will be at LL to review the Deception.

I will also have the Morph Valve in a cocker and in a pump. Morph Valve is very cool, can tell a difference in cocker and bigger difference in pump.  

In Topic: New gun from Alien paintball: Deception

16 April 2015 - 11:35 AM

In Topic: HK Army TFX Loader

10 March 2015 - 09:42 AM

Had one on my gun at Extravaganza in the booth - got to take it apart and handle it in my room overnight.

Didn't see even one thing I would have changed.

There is a tension adjuster, set at it's loosest point it shouldn't break paint. 

If indeed it is easy on brittle paint this loader is as good as anything. My Rotors can be hard on paint. Also this one looks easier to clean.

I offered to buy the one I had but they didn't have stock for inventory. Steve Nobi told me I could buy the loaner I had but then they swapped it out for a different color that didn't have internals, and then he wasn't around so I could buy the demo back.

Anyway I will buy one as I think it looks great and at least - in my room - the mechanics are right.

While it isn't a new idea -  a Gear loader where floor moves - it is a very solid design and the shell had plenty of reinforcement in all the right places. The tray for the ball is even cut a little right at the edges so the body can be the very narrowest possible.